View Full Version : Cruncher can't get folding going?? Help me out!
I need a hand people:
I run SETI all the time, and when I saw the posts recruiting for Folding decided to try and help pump up the numbers over here too, if I could do it without hurting my SETI #s:
The trouble is, after leaving the client running for a few weeks, I didn't seem to be adding anything to the stats?!?
I had to go on the road for work, so I shut it down, but I'm back again and want to get Folding!
Can someone point me towards the easiest directions on installing, etc? And maybe a faq?
Thanks! (I say that in advance because I KNOW you guys have a great team and will respond quickly!)
There were a couple of problems with the original client that was released a few weeks ago. One problem was that the client would not grab a user ID from the server when it was first run. Any work done without a use ID would not be credited. There were/are(maybe still) problems uploading completed work to Stanford's servers. I heard of a few things that may be at issue with problems returning work. 1- There may be a problem with the client running under WinXP. 2- There were also porblems when connecting through a proxy. 3- Checkpointing didn't work which means that any time you shut the client down the work would be lost, well... a lot of the time anyway. Most of these problems have been fixed but you will need to download the latest release and get rid of the current client/workfolder/config/queue/core_65, etc..Just get rid of all of the old stuff. ;)
Hopefully the new stuff will work.
Dunga Bee
11-13-01, 09:54 PM
Overclockers FAH Web Site Here (http://www.overclockers.ws)
That should cover all your questions / concerns. Also has links to download the software, etc.
I agree with Ploaf, get rid of your FAH folder and download the newest version and install it.
Also, check the client.cfg file in your FAH folder to make sure you were assigned a user ID by the Stanford server. There will be the user name you chose as well as the unique ID from Stanford.
If it is not there and you are using the text only version, stop it and restart it. There was a problem with it getting an ID the first time you run it so you had to run it, enter your name, team, etc then stop it and restart it.
But, just try to delete all and re-download and reinstall and I'd bet you'll be in good shape.
You may not see your results posted for a day or so depending on how fast your machine is. Also Stanford only updates a few times a day.
Good luck and Welcome to the Team (again) !!
If you need anything else, just drop a note.
Allrighty! Does the "no-nonsense, text only" client fold faster?
I d/ld the regular version first, but it looks as though it doesn't actually run unless the display is visible: is this correct? Might explain my original problem if so! DOH!
So I got the text only, and I'm running it on one machine- as soon as I start showing results I'll add the others.
OC.Com will take over BOTH projects! MUuahahahahahahaha!!
]-[itman
11-13-01, 10:56 PM
No there's no difference in speed between the text and graphical client as long as you don't have the screensaver or the graphic thing showing. If it stays in the task bar it will work and work faster than if you have it displayed.
WTG! Glad you got at least one version running right :)
The GUI/Console/Screensaver/all in one client will work as long as it's running even when just sitting in the tray. It doesn't have to display anything. Sometimes it takes a moment for it to update when you click on it to show that it has been working. When you first bring it up from the tray it will display the last thing that it displayed when it was nested there. Make sense?? :)
There is a screensaver only version but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. They would hunt me down and commit tortuous acts as payback. ;)
Dunga Bee
11-13-01, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by rogerdugans
Allrighty! Does the "no-nonsense, text only" client fold faster?
I have seen no results that show that the text only version is any faster than the graphical version.
Originally posted by rogerdugans
I d/ld the regular version first, but it looks as though it doesn't actually run unless the display is visible: is this correct? Might explain my original problem if so! DOH!
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Not true. You will see winFAH.exe using CPU cycles only when the graphics are displayed because the winFAH.exe just draws the graphics and fetches work / sends results. The actual processing is done by a program called Core_65.exe. Check that and you'll see it is using tons of CPU time when the graphics are minimized (if you are using a task manager that shows CPU usage).
Originally posted by rogerdugans
So I got the text only, and I'm running it on one machine- as soon as I start showing results I'll add the others.
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Just be sure to put the console EXE file in a folder somewhere since it is not an install program. Also, check your Client.CFG file to make sure you got that user ID from Stanford. If so, you are set!
Fold On Brother !
:)
Originally posted by Dunga Bee
Just be sure to put the console EXE file in a folder somewhere since it is not an install program. Also, check your Client.CFG file to make sure you got that user ID from Stanford. If so, you are set!
Fold On Brother !
:)
There was some mention that this may have been fixed in the latest release. Does anybody know? It would be great to find out that they did. :)
I have the userid, but there is another entry after that:
active=n
Shouldn't that be active=y when it is running? or does it not update until after the first protein is folded?
In Win2K Task Manager cpu usage is VERY low for Core65- usually 00, jumps up to 03 or 04 once in a while. Is this normal (at least for a seti crunching pc?)
Priority for core65 was normal, fah console low.
I believe that is instruction to tell it not to use http and not for the client itself.
As for Win2k Priority there was a thread about it started by Dunga Bee here-- http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45510
SETI may actually have a slightly higher priority even though the taskmanager isn't showing it that way.
Dunga Bee
11-14-01, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by rogerdugans
I have the userid, but there is another entry after that:
active=n
Shouldn't that be active=y when it is running? or does it not update until after the first protein is folded?
In Win2K Task Manager cpu usage is VERY low for Core65- usually 00, jumps up to 03 or 04 once in a while. Is this normal (at least for a seti crunching pc?)
Priority for core65 was normal, fah console low.
If you are running SETI and Folding on the same machine, it may not work. Core_65 runs at Normal priority, but as Sick Boy mentioned in that previous thread, the underlying processes run at low.
If SETI runs above low, Folding will never get any CPU time. That might be what you are seeing if Core_65 is only getting a few CPU cycles.
Originally posted by Dunga Bee
If you are running SETI and Folding on the same machine, it may not work. Core_65 runs at Normal priority, but as Sick Boy mentioned in that previous thread, the underlying processes run at low.
If SETI runs above low, Folding will never get any CPU time. That might be what you are seeing if Core_65 is only getting a few CPU cycles.
Okay, that might be it! I just turned SETI down a notch to see what happens.
I have looked to see if I have any stats listed yet- nothing!
Just how long should a protein take-max!!
What is the best place to check stats?
I'm running the fah client with 1068mhz right now- as soon as I KNOW it works I can get the other 3800 mhz going!
Originally posted by rogerdugans
Okay, that might be it! I just turned SETI down a notch to see what happens.
I have looked to see if I have any stats listed yet- nothing!
Just how long should a protein take-max!!
What is the best place to check stats?
I'm running the fah client with 1068mhz right now- as soon as I KNOW it works I can get the other 3800 mhz going!
The Proteins will take anywhere from 8 hours as a minimum to a few days as maximum depending on cpu speed. The minimum using an Athlon XP and the max using some pentium.
You can check to see if anything is going on by looking at the console and you should be able to see how many frames you have done on the current protein. They will take either 100 or 1000 depending on the protein. If you are running as a service then go to your folding@home folder and open the FAHlog.txt file and that will show the your last completed frame.
Best place for stats is several different places.
Stanford Stats (http://folding.stanford.edu) and click on user or team stats.
Statsman Stats (http://www.statsman.org/folding2stats/) you can click on the team to get your user details
and another place for stats is
http://users.neosmart.com/hruzaden/folding/stats/overclockers-stats.html
I like this place because you can see how much you move up (or down) in the rankings and it shows new users.
The first page is updated hourly and the other 2 are updated every 3 hours.
hth!!!
Update of the effort so far;) !
On an Athlon 900@1068 (running SETI@Home) in 2 days:
Working on frame 4 of 100, villin protein.
I've read a bit about villins: but is 2 days for four frames right? Even running SETI?
I still have 0 stats listed (no ego blow:cool: , I'd just like to see something to KNOW that its working!)
From the responses I've gotten so far it looks like I'll get minimal results while crunching for SETI, but what the...... So I'm running the client on the XP rig now too, the other athlon will start later this evening.
I should be adding another rig to the mini-farm soon; when thats up I'll take a look at how Folding is going and maybe devote a rig to just that.
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