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ObiwanShinobi
06-06-06, 09:11 AM
Is there a non conductive liquid that gaurantee's that it wont fry anything?

citronym
06-06-06, 11:07 AM
There are no liquids that will stay non-conductive after they've been put into your loop. Don't waste your money on them just for that feature. You're better off taking the time and not having leaks.

Arca_ex
06-06-06, 11:16 AM
Distilled water is non-conductive, but as soon as it hits, say any sort of dust, on something like a video card it gets fried anyways because the dust made it conductive. I use distilled water with some iodine and UV blue coloring, and I made sure it wouldnt leak before I put the system in my computer.

WarriorII
06-06-06, 11:19 AM
I like distilled water as a base, then WW as an additive.

Sentential
06-06-06, 11:24 AM
Is there a non conductive liquid that gaurantee's that it wont fry anything?

There are no liquids that will stay non-conductive after they've been put into your loop.
... Because the copper blocks themselves will shed shavings and the metal shavings will go into solution with the water making it conductive no matter what it is which is why it doesnt matter.

If you're afraid of leaks use hoseclamps and leaktest.

Distilled water is non-conductive, but as soon as it hits, say any sort of dust, on something like a video card it gets fried anyways because the dust made it conductive. I use distilled water with some iodine and UV blue coloring, and I made sure it wouldnt leak before I put the system in my computer.
No its not the dust thats the issue its the blocks in the loop that cause the problem.

aaronjb
06-06-06, 12:04 PM
I like distilled water as a base, then WW as an additive.

I second that. I use a few capfuls of Water Wetter to prevent corrosion. Also, it can be used to decrease surface tension, but I doubt if this has any real effect in a computer cooling application, as we aren't reacing the temps that a racing engine does. ;)

epidemic
06-06-06, 12:18 PM
As Sentential stated just use hoseclamps and leaktest. I don't think there is a need to waste money on non-conductive liquid. Just use distilled water with an anti corrosive additive. I use a small amount of pentosin in my loop with the distilled water.

JenBell
06-06-06, 12:38 PM
in my ever-long quest to change my WCing setup...

FluidXP is the cheap alternative or
https://secure.serverroom.co.uk/ucommerce/shops/acota/shop.sfxp?page=product&id=1430&usmSID=104935-437-440

which is expensive at £133...depends on how far or how much money u want to spend on it...think FluidXP will do for me...butter fingers

Sentential
06-06-06, 01:15 PM
As Sentential stated just use hoseclamps and leaktest. I don't think there is a need to waste money on non-conductive liquid. Just use distilled water with an anti corrosive additive. I use a small amount of pentosin in my loop with the distilled water.
Agreed. My fav liquid is ionized water + glycol (using toyota coolant)

voigts
06-06-06, 04:21 PM
I can understand why being new to watercooling you would be concerned about the possibility of frying anything. Well, no non-conductive fluid is guaranteed. It may work in the case of a leak, it may not. I have heard of people with it not getting parts fried as well as people getting parts fried with it. I have also heard both ways with distilled water/antifreeze.

Honestly, what other people are saying is true. You do everything possible by installing and testing your loop in such a way that you are confident it won't leak. I tighten all barbs down well, check any o-rings, use good mcmaster smooth-lined clamps to tighten the snot out of any connections, and pressure test my custom res at 50psi attached to the kitchen sink for an hour. Not that it is impossible for me to have a leak, but I am far more confident in my setup than I would be on just some "non-conductive" fluid.

mk11232
06-06-06, 06:37 PM
in my ever-long quest to change my WCing setup...

FluidXP is the cheap alternative or
https://secure.serverroom.co.uk/ucommerce/shops/acota/shop.sfxp?page=product&id=1430&usmSID=104935-437-440

which is expensive at £133...depends on how far or how much money u want to spend on it...think FluidXP will do for me...butter fingers


I used FluidXP, it isn't very uv reactive but I have many different pets around (free fly birds, dogs, and turtles) so the nontoxivity was a HUGE factor. With almost all other collants are toxic is some form or another. WIth FluidXP you don't have that concern. If it says tells you to call the hosptial if swollowed, I don't need it.

ObiwanShinobi
06-09-06, 07:03 PM
So really, all "nonconductive" fluids is just bs?

Arca_ex
06-09-06, 09:02 PM
pretty much

citronym
06-09-06, 09:59 PM
Well I wouldn't call it total BS, since it is non-condutive when you open the package. However, I feel it is more of a way to con first time water guys into shelling out a few more bones. Who wouldn't want a coolant that was non-conductive, if it performed well? I think a properly assembled and inspected/tested loop is a much better investment.

Deathknight
06-09-06, 10:02 PM
The best lies use a little bit of the truth :)

Chunkylover763
06-09-06, 10:35 PM
They do become conductive again in theory, however there have been a lot of real world instances where a leak has developed while the PC was on and none of the affected areas were damaged. However, there have also been a lot of people that have had componants fried from leaks with nonconductive solutions. Flourinert has proven itself quite incapible of carrying an electric charge, just like most oils so it is really the only coolant that I would say is truly nonconductive.