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sir_pyro
06-16-06, 10:17 AM
I'm looking at putting in a second loop in my rebuilt system to cool things like the MB, V-regs, and down the road maybe a PPU or the RAM. It's going to be completely separate from the main loop and the auxiliary chiller loop, and be ether 3/8" or 1/4". As of now I'm planning on a swiftech NB block, and an Alphacool vreg cooler. Past that it would just be whatever ends up getting put in there over time to cool other components.

Before you all jump on me because it's not really needed, I know that already. I want to do this regardless, and I'm not entirely sure why. Just to say I have a three loop system :shrug:.

Anyway, what I'm looking for is something small, quiet, and CHEEP. I dont want to spend $75 on another lang DDC just to cool the mother board, it's just not worth it. a Mag 3 would be too big, and so is my spare AquaVia pump. AC or DC doent matter ether, but head may be an important factor if I ever switch it to 1/4" tubing.

Any ideas?

Alien1099
06-16-06, 11:43 AM
I'm looking at putting in a second loop in my rebuilt system to cool things like the MB, V-regs, and down the road maybe a PPU or the RAM. It's going to be completely separate from the main loop and the auxiliary chiller loop, and be ether 3/8" or 1/4". As of now I'm planning on a swiftech NB block, and an Alphacool vreg cooler. Past that it would just be whatever ends up getting put in there over time to cool other components.

Before you all jump on me because it's not really needed, I know that already. I want to do this regardless, and I'm not entirely sure why. Just to say I have a three loop system :shrug:.

Anyway, what I'm looking for is something small, quiet, and CHEEP. I dont want to spend $75 on another lang DDC just to cool the mother board, it's just not worth it. a Mag 3 would be too big, and so is my spare AquaVia pump. AC or DC doent matter ether, but head may be an important factor if I ever switch it to 1/4" tubing.

Any ideas?

Well, if you think it's cool I guess that's all that matters. It's like spinner wheels on your car though, pretty much a waste of money and totally unnecessary. Whether it is actually "bing bling" is in the eye of the beholder. It's really easy to get carried away with the whole cooling thing. You may want to ask yourself would you be better served with performance by upgrading components in your original loop or your computer hardware itself rather than spending a more money on a 2nd loop. Or maybe there are better solutions for cooling those components.

ziggo0
06-16-06, 11:51 AM
Well, if you think it's cool I guess that's all that matters. It's like spinner wheels on your car though, pretty much a waste of money and totally unnecessary. Whether it is actually "bing bling" is in the eye of the beholder. It's really easy to get carried away with the whole cooling thing. You may want to ask yourself would you be better served with performance by upgrading components in your original loop or your computer hardware itself rather than spending a more money on a 2nd loop. Or maybe there are better solutions for cooling those components.

That's pretty much all it is, though, I couldn't mind doing that myself. AS LONG AS IT LOOKS GOOD and as you say, no carried away. Alotta people just do WC because they want. Like myself, I was fine with air but wanted to try the WC

Alien1099
06-16-06, 12:16 PM
That's pretty much all it is, though, I couldn't mind doing that myself. AS LONG AS IT LOOKS GOOD and as you say, no carried away. Alotta people just do WC because they want. Like myself, I was fine with air but wanted to try the WC

Same here. I would have been happy staying with my air cooling setup, but I just had to jump into water cooling and try something exciting (that also has the potential to push my computer to its limits). I did my research to find out pros, cons, dos, and don'ts. But I also realize the point of diminishing returns on my WC investment... I say investment because it IS a lot of money to get started with a top of the line setup. :cry:

meionm
06-16-06, 12:22 PM
Here's a pump, but noise level is unknown yet. Is it necessary for you, who knows.

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=230&cat=4&page=1

Bender
06-16-06, 12:24 PM
I would go with a Maxi Jet 1200. I got mine brand new for about $20. Its 295 GPH in a very small and quiet package. I have literally used mine for years with no issues. If you want something even smaller check out the other pumps in the Maxi Jet line. I think the 900 is the same size but everything else is smaller.

caddy359
06-16-06, 12:37 PM
footpump ? retro style

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ziggo0
06-16-06, 12:42 PM
Same here. I would have been happy staying with my air cooling setup, but I just had to jump into water cooling and try something exciting (that also has the potential to push my computer to its limits). I did my research to find out pros, cons, dos, and don'ts. But I also realize the point of diminishing returns on my WC investment... I say investment because it IS a lot of money to get started with a top of the line setup. :cry:

Yeah...I said, $300 and no more. Now I've spent like....400...450...lol...I still just installed a T-Line and now I gotta buy a cap for it....460...ha.

sir_pyro
06-16-06, 04:30 PM
Heh, looks were actually why I was thinking of just going 1/4" if I do it. Sure it will be restrictive as heck, but it's not cooling much so I dont care! It would seriously simplify the routing of the coolant lines and I could still run a UV coolant through it just to look cool.

I just happen to have a spare MCR120qp left over from my X-Qpack that I dont plan on using with any thing (unless I break down and buy one of those Delta GFB1212VHW's and run it outside in the AUX loop during the winter), so I was thinking I might as well put it to good use and remove a small whiney fan from my system. Seeing as the nice swiftech north bridge coolers cost more then there NB water block (by $2), I figured I might as well cool it down on water. Then I realized that they make that V-Reg cooler for Asus boards, and seeing as I dont want to put a fan in just for those, I might as well liquid cool them as well. If all goes as planed, I'll have a system with 6 120mm fans (3 on radiators), no winey smaller ones!

Think if it this way: I get the cool factor of having the other loop, and only have to pay a little out of pocket to get it past what I'd probably spend trying to cool down those components any way . I'm just a cooling geek I suppose... Heck, I'm even thinking about a switching system so I can operate three different cooling systems on the AUX loop (my chiller, a bong, or an outside rad in the winter).

Maybe this is just the outcome of my constant urge to tweek things, somehting that I'm sure many of you also share.

I'm liking that DD Mag II LE. Nice and small, it would probably fit well in my lower chamber. It also has better head then a lot of the AC pumps I've been looking at. Any one have any more info on it or happen to know if it would beet an old Koolance duel pump/res combo thing?

sir_pyro
06-16-06, 11:04 PM
Ok, no this wont just be for novelty. I just fired up the new MB to make sure the CPU was still good. The NB fan is going to be the loudest thing in the system at first, and that needs to be taken care of! The Vregs were warm with air blowing over them from the OEM cpu fan, so I imagine that they will get quite hot after I jack up the voltages and dont have any airflow there. Looks like I wont be cooling the ram though. The airflow from the radiator goes right over it, so that should be good at least.

greenmaji
06-17-06, 01:57 AM
That DD pump looks like a modified Daner Mag 2 :shrug:

sir_pyro
06-17-06, 10:31 AM
I've actually seen a Mag 2 in person at a pet shop (I was trying to find a mag 3), and that DD pump doent look at thing like one. I suspect that it's actually a modifyed version of there CPS-MAG (http://www.dangerdenstore.com/product.php?productid=178&cat=23&page=1) pump. They are about the same size, and this one has just a little more flow and head. Thus, if there old pump is good, I'm sure this one is (I dont know, I'd have to do reserch).

This is no DDC, but it may be worth a shot picking up.