XP 1800+ OC to 1900+ @ 123 degrees

[Alienware XP]

:mad: I overclocked it to 1900+ and when i was installing max payne its got 122 and the warning went off, i have a heatsink fan and everything, i have alot of fans in my tower, What can I do?


Thanks for all your help, I have another question, I got it to say 1900+ can i get to to say 2000+, I know my CPU can reach the speed needed but will an 1800+ say 2000+?

[Placid]

Welcome,
Can you please be more specific as to what brand heatsink and what fan is on it.
Also can you tell us what brand-model motherboard you have?

[Alienware XP]

Its a Volcano 6Ci, made my thermaltake it says for AMD athlona 1.5+ tualatin up to 2.0, it has a copper base, any thing else you want to know?

[Placid]

Is it on a asus motherboard?

[Alienware XP]

EPoX DDR 8kha+

[Placid]

What voltage is the vcore set at?
What temp do you get without the cpu overclocked?
What is the room temp?
50c is very high for a xp cpu.
I would defiantly lose the overclock until you figure out why your temps are so high.

[Alienware XP]

Well The room temp is nice and cool i even lifted to case off the carpet. The temp before overclocking was when i boot up 80 F but after a few mines it went to 113 and when i was playing max payne i didnt have a warning but with it overclocked and me not playing a game the temp was about 115 but when playing and installing max payne as you know 123 F, the cpu core was 1.850.

[Placid]

I am not familar with the general performance of your heatsink.
It may not be making 100% contact with the cpu core.
Did you use a thermal pad or thermal grease when you installed it?
Did you use a shim of some sort?
If you used the proper amount of thermal grease and no shim and are sure its mounted correctly I would say either replace the heatsink with a better model or replace the fan on it with a higher cfm one.

[Alienware XP]

It had a thermal pad on it, i dont know what SHIM is? I will try and take it out but im pretty sure its mounted correctly.

Hugo thanks I will try and take down my voltage, The thing that bothers me is the CPU temp has always been high and I didnt overclock it that much, I went from 1.53 to 1.6. I would like to also thank placid for your imput and thank everyone else im new to the forum and after only 10 mins i have been helped a great deal. Thank you very much.

[Hugo 59]

First welcome to the forums. Second it would be much easier if you would use Celsius.

Ok this is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. 50 degrees Celsius does not seem to bad to me for an over clocked cpu that is overvolted and running under load. I would look through the heatsink comparisons on the front page and get one of the good ones if you want to keep oc'ing. In the mean time I would raise your temp alarm to 54 or 55 Celsius. If your cpu hits this you should probably go back to spec till you get better cooling. 55 is high and well your machine may be come unstable running at that temp it will not hurt your cpu.

Another thing that I would do is set the voltage back to spec this will bring down your temps. Voltage will not make a huge difference in how far you can overclock it till you get better cooling.

My 2¢

[Dissolved]

123F isnt hot at all...

thats like normal..

he has not a thing to worry about...

thats like 30F cooling then what my mobo says im runing.

[Placid]

To me it seems hot, I am running a xp cpu @ 1705mhz 2.05v and hit 44c under full load with a sk6 and a 30cfm delta.
When I used a t-bird in the summer I would hit 50c 1550mhz
1.9v.
The xp's do run cooler thats why I think his temps seems high.

[TRANCER24]

I agree with you Placid his temp is kinda high. Anything above 45c is getting on the hot side to me. You might wanna try lapping your heatsink and use artic silver .

[Hugo 59]

Placid don't get me wrong his temps are high but I don't think there dangerous. During the summer no air conditioning in New York City my cpu ran at an average of 53 to 55 degrees with no ill effects I did have to lower my oc though.

That's with a Swiftech btw and 7 case fans.

[Mr B]

I'd be curious to hear what you've got running for case fans, and where they're located, and blowing in/out. If you took off the left side cover, would it look like someone dumped a bowl of spaghetti in the 'puter? Bad airflow, compounded by cables/ribbons in the way...can raise the temps up quite a bit.

That does seem a bit high to me as well...

As soon as you can, ditch that thermal pad on the HSF, and get some Arctic Silver II thermal compound...much better thermal interface than the "pad"...that'll shave a couple of degrees, right there.

IF you want to take the time to "lap" the surface of the heatsink (sand the mounting surface perfectly flat using very, very fine automotive wet/dry sandpaper), this might help a bit more, when you go to replace the pad with the AS II...

My $.02.... ;)

Mr B

**Hmmm...totally missed Trancer24's post...lol So..um...yeah...what HE said...lol ;) ) 88

[Hugo 59]

Originally posted by TRANCER24
I agree with you Placid his temp is kinda high. Anything above 45c is getting on the hot side to me. You might wanna try lapping your heatsink and use artic silver .

These temps would have scared the out of me before last summer and did at first but after I decided if I have to replace it so be it. I let it run and never had a problem.

As for overclocking those temps will not allow for much of one but it wont kill the chip either.

[Hugo 59]

Mr B trust me there is no clutter in my case rounded cables and very organized. I have an antec sx830 case I have tried every combo of fans to create different airflow with no success, when it is 102 degrees in your apartment there is not much that you can do so I finally decided to just get as much air going through it as possible, hence the 7 fans. Three on the front blowing in 2 antec fans and 1 high flow panflow blowing in. The ps fan a high flow panflow an antec fan and a slot fan blowing out. Now that it is cooler I have cut down the fans 2 in 2 out and I get excellent temps under load. Using radiate it shows my hsf getting a CW rating of 2.2. I can live with that.

[Mr B]

Originally posted by Hugo 59
Mr B trust me there is no clutter in my case rounded cables and very organized. I have an antec sx830 case I have tried every combo of fans to create different airflow with no success, when it is 102 degrees in your apartment there is not much that you can do so I finally decided to just get as much air going through it as possible, hence the 7 fans. Three on the front blowing in 2 antec fans and 1 high flow panflow blowing in. The ps fan a high flow panflow an antec fan and a slot fan blowing out. Now that it is cooler I have cut down the fans 2 in 2 out and I get excellent temps under load. Using radiate it shows my hsf getting a CW rating of 2.2. I can live with that.

Actually, I posed the question to Alienware XP...lol :rolleyes: ;)

[Hugo 59]

Originally posted by Mr B


Actually, I posed the question to Alienware XP...lol :rolleyes: ;)

Oh ok. Good point then:)

I get carried away sometime thinking everthing is about me. ME me me me.:D

[Mr B]

Originally posted by Hugo 59


Oh ok. Good point then:)

I get carried away sometime thinking everthing is about me. ME me me me.:D

rotflmao....:p

I've answered a few like that too... which usually prompts a reply of something like; "Wasn't talkin' to you....Finger Boy !!!"

;)

[Hugo 59]

Finger Boy.

rotflmaopmgo

I think we scared everyone else away.

[dugans]

Nope! I just showed up late, as usual!

Alienware XP-

the temp seems a bit high to me as well- I have an xp1800 running at 1725mhz and typically get cpu temps of 42/43 celsius (I have no idea of conversion. I don't use Celsius except when overclocking!) Check the cables, lap the heatsink and use AS2, and see what that gets you. Also check the beginner guides out- a lot of great info in them.

Airflow is weird in a computer case, it can take a lot of experimentation to find out what works best. One real good sign that you need better airflow in the case is if it runs a LOT cooler with the side panel off! A high case temp will also give you higher cpu temps in an air-cooled system.

BUT: temp sensors vary, so I don't completely trust the readings either. I'll let a pc run on the warm side a while before I get scared and see if it starts crashing: No crash- I figure I'm ok!

Of course all mine start crashing around 50c!

Welcome to the Forums!

[]-[itman]

That temp's a little high to me too but for me it's acceptable but I wouldn't go any farther. Anyway to convert F to C you do this.

(F-32) then you take that answer and devide it by 9/5.

To get from C to F you do the opposite. (C devided by 5/9) then you take that number and add 32.

[Alienware XP]

:) WOW, This forum has helped me out soo much and its my first day! You guys are awesome! Well I am gonna go try a few of your tips, Im gonna lower the voltage, Clean up the wires, and higher my warning temp, I spent a few months saving up for my new system which i custom built from the recent Fairplex computer fair, and i dont want to lose my CPU and I am new to overclocking ever since i saw Patrick on Tech tv try do it. Well I wanna thank you all and I look forward to talking and helping others.

[Alienware XP]

My other question was, Can I get my CPU when I boot up to say 2000+? if i clock higher which i have done.

Well I have seen a pic of a boot up screen saying 2000+ but it was overclocked with a 1900+ chip which i dont think should make a diffrence

[]-[itman]

You can get it up that high but you'll definetly need to get it cooler. It might take some work but it can be done. Just look at Mr.B's. He's got his up that far. Just don't follow Patrick's example;). What's the count now, 4 I think?

[Fightingpiper]

Ive also got a volcano 6 on my 1800XP and run at a constant 46C with 2 fans in and 3 fans +2power supply blowing out. have not had the courage to unlock it yet. Ive had mine running at 1748 but locks up after an hour or so and is most stable at 1725.

Cheers

[Mr B]

Originally posted by Alienware XP
My other question was, Can I get my CPU when I boot up to say 2000+? if i clock higher which i have done.

Well I have seen a pic of a boot up screen saying 2000+ but it was overclocked with a 1900+ chip which i dont think should make a diffrence

Only if you unlock the multiplier and overclock with that instead of the FSB. That number on the boot screen will only come up at 133FSB, the different numbers depends upon the multi the chip runs at. The numbers in parentheses is what will appear on the screen during boot...

11.5x133 = 1533 (1800+)
12x133=1600 (1900+)
12.5x133=1666 (2000+)

Whereas my chip is still locked (I need to try again..lol I didn't get it quite right, and didn't get all the multi's working the first time, and the second attempt locked the chip at 11x (11.5x default) :eek: ), when I overclock mine I'm running 11.5x150.

So when I boot, what I see is;

AMD Athlon 1725MHz

Also note...1725 is almost MHz for MHz equal to what would/will be the 2100+... :D

11.5x150= 1725
13x133= 1729 (2100+)

Can't help but wonder what a real deal XP2100+ would/will overclock to...:eek:

(I'll wager it'll come really close to an honest 2.0GHz!!! ;) )

[Alienware XP]

Mr. B Thank you very much, when i get home im gonna take it to 2000+ with your idea, the only thing im wonderning is for all those settings you didnt mention a good voltage, so what would you reccomend? thanks agian:) :) and it will say 2000+ on the boot up? even though im using AMD Athlon XP 1800+



How long does it take you guys to complete a data unit with SETI?

Another thing that vexes me is that i have an XP chip but when i boot up it says MP, but it is the unmistakeable XP chip.

MR. B
What settings do i need to have to get my 1800+(not overclcoked) to say 2000+

[Mr B]

Unless you've done a volt mod of some kind (look elsewhere in the AMD Motherboards for this info), most boards will only allow you to raise it to 1.85v anyways. If you've voltmodded, I don't know if I'd go over 2.0v. Depends on the cooling you've got, I suppose...

Don't take that as gospel...read up a bit in the other topic (AMD mobo's), and see what the other members have done. I know little of voltmodding, and how far you should really go with the vcore.

I seem to recall most that I've read were in the neighborhood of 1.95 to 2.0v though...

Mr B

[DarkInferno_IV]

Watercool it.


Answer to ALL heat-related problems.

[Alienware XP]

What settings do i need to have to get my 1800+(not overclcoked) to say 2000+?