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Slawek
06-25-06, 11:54 AM
Anyone using the new drivers released June 23rd? The new control panel is terrible, and I noticed a frame drop too. Reverted back to 84.21

dem0lish3r
06-25-06, 12:21 PM
yeah, my friends pc stops responding for like 30secs. they hog all ur resources. his mem usage goes to 100%. he also has frame drops.

kbtat2
06-25-06, 09:19 PM
I always use the XtremeG versions of Nvidia drivers and I didn't like the 91.31 version at all. I hated the new control panel, although I could have gotten used to it, and my games just didn't seem as smooth. My benchmarks also dropped considerably with them so I went back to the XG 84.37's.
If you have a system somewhat like mine you should try the XG 84.37 V2's.

w00tstock
06-26-06, 05:18 AM
Hmmm you guys mean you actualy got your control pannels to work...

kovboi
06-26-06, 07:27 AM
the new control panel worked fine for me, but i ditched the drivers and went back to 84.21 anyway. everytime i booted into windows the 91.31 driver gave me an SLI diabled message or some such (I don't have two vid cards and my mobo doesn't even support it without modding). they also caused the screen to flicker whenever changing resolution or loading up games. a lot of people are having problems with these drivers and it's not the first time nvidia's botched a driver release. i expect there will be new official drivers with bug fixes within a month.

Joeteck
06-26-06, 08:49 AM
I always use the XtremeG versions of Nvidia drivers and I didn't like the 91.31 version at all. I hated the new control panel, although I could have gotten used to it, and my games just didn't seem as smooth. My benchmarks also dropped considerably with them so I went back to the XG 84.37's.
If you have a system somewhat like mine you should try the XG 84.37 V2's.


As my rule of thumb, I only change if the driver was designed for it. Looking at your video card, any newer driver will not be an improvment as they're not looking to increase FPS on that video card but rather the newest card out there... 7950GX2. Or rather the 7900 series cards... You may be suprised to know that the 7x.xx driver may work better than the 8x.xx series driver...

Well, thats my understanding of it...

Case in point...

If you go to nvidia.com and download the lastest 84.37 driver for lets say, a TNT2 card... Guess what... it says it can't find your card... Even thought it should work, nvidia has removed the TNT2 line from its drivers... Why? Who really cares... But the 77.xx driver found the card and worked just fine..

The point is, just because its new, does does not mean it going to be better.

When newer drivers come out, the newer features are not for older cards... so you will see a drop in FPS...

I would never install 84.37 drivers for a Geforce 2 or a 3 or a 4. I would go back to when that card was top dog, and download the driver for its time. Why? It WILL run better.

redduc900
06-26-06, 10:53 AM
Everytime i booted into windows the 91.31 driver gave me an SLI diabled message or some such (I don't have two vid cards and my mobo doesn't even support it without modding).

Disabling SLI balloon help message
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=760&p_created=1137546131&p_sid=GAn_*Rai&p_lva=&%20p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PS ZwX3Jvd19jbnQ%3Cbr%20/%3E%209NDgmcF9wcm9kcz0yJnBfY2F0cz02MCZwX3B2PTEuMjs yLnUwJnBfY3Y9MS4%3Cbr%20/%3E%202MDsyLnUwJnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWF yY2hfZm5sJnBfcGF%3Cbr%20/%3EnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9c2xpIGRpc2FibGVkIG1lc3 NhZ2U*&p_li=&p_topview=1

kovboi
06-26-06, 10:40 PM
Disabling SLI balloon help message
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=760&p_created=1137546131&p_sid=GAn_*Rai&p_lva=&%20p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PS ZwX3Jvd19jbnQ%3Cbr%20/%3E%209NDgmcF9wcm9kcz0yJnBfY2F0cz02MCZwX3B2PTEuMjs yLnUwJnBfY3Y9MS4%3Cbr%20/%3E%202MDsyLnUwJnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWF yY2hfZm5sJnBfcGF%3Cbr%20/%3EnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9c2xpIGRpc2FibGVkIG1lc3 NhZ2U*&p_li=&p_topview=1
thanks for the link! i'll probably wait it out, though, as i don't trust drivers that can't guess the right number of video cards in your rig (even with a 50-50 chance of getting it right). :D

icedragn
06-26-06, 11:41 PM
dunno about you guys... but i installed them and they work just fine, control panel works fine, and my fps is just fine, i find no difference in performance going from 84.21's to the 91.31's. Did you guys clean the old drivers properly? And by no difference, i mean at the most +/- 1fps, well within the margin of error, or like ~20 3dmarks.

kovboi
06-27-06, 08:06 AM
Did you guys clean the old drivers properly? And by no difference, i mean at the most +/- 1fps, well within the margin of error, or like ~20 3dmarks.
sure. the issue is probably what joeteck mentioned above - that newer drivers are for newer cards, so your 7600gt will work fine while older cards may not. for the record, performance in games with these drivers was fine with my 6800gt (though i didn't run any benchmarks), despite the other bugs.

Hipcrostino
06-27-06, 08:36 AM
everytime i booted into windows the 91.31 driver gave me an SLI diabled message or some such (I don't have two vid cards and my mobo doesn't even support it without modding).

HAHAH i get this and im on AGP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NightWolf_8800
06-27-06, 09:48 AM
Originally Posted by kovboi
everytime i booted into windows the 91.31 driver gave me an SLI diabled message or some such (I don't have two vid cards and my mobo doesn't even support it without modding).

I get this problem too... I have PCI-E... do people with PCIE cards get this problem?

Also how do I get the bottom task bar icon back after i click exit???

Ive got a 7800GTX... I havent got a chance to bench yet... Any one notices a performance change with the 7800gtx pcie?

icedragn
06-27-06, 10:40 AM
sure. the issue is probably what joeteck mentioned above - that newer drivers are for newer cards, so your 7600gt will work fine while older cards may not. for the record, performance in games with these drivers was fine with my 6800gt (though i didn't run any benchmarks), despite the other bugs.

they work fine on my 6800 AGP, too. however i didnt run any benchmarks, before and after, so all im going on for that card is that the control panel works just fine and that there is no noticeable increase or decrease in fps/performance.

Alien1099
06-27-06, 11:19 AM
I put a computer together for my sister using my brother's old 6800GT AGP and with these drivers it kept giving me that stupid SLI message which confused the hell out of me. I'll try reverting to older drivers. I updated the drivers for my 7900GT and they seemed to work fine though.

If you don't like the new control panel, which I do not, you can revert to the "Classic" view. Simple enough solution for people like me that hate change when it's not broken to begin with.

AngelfireUk83
06-28-06, 06:28 AM
As you can see I'm still on 81.98's I could update to 84.21's but even with the website saying it's WHQL certified. When I try to install the ones as it requests from the International link it still comes up with the Drivers are not Digitally signed.

As for the 91.31's I'll leave till they have that stupid control panel & SLi balloon bug out.

Zebbo
06-28-06, 07:47 AM
Slower for GeForce 6 -series than 84.xx drivers but nothing else to complain about.

Hipcrostino
06-28-06, 08:37 AM
anyone notice the new dual monitor support for these drivers. It actually extends the task bar across the second screen!!

unfortunatly its only of use if you have two monitors of the same size that support the same refreah rate and you have to have the primary (one with the start bar button) on the left.

Therefore it is literally of no use to me(second moniter on the left, low refresh rate support and differant resolutions), but its still nice to see.

im going back the the 8x.xx series drivers

kovboi
06-28-06, 09:25 AM
anyone notice the new dual monitor support for these drivers. It actually extends the task bar across the second screen!!
that's not new. it is available with previous drivers if you choose "horizontal span" as your display mode. so you should still be able to use it with the 84.21 or before. also, the monitors don't have to be the same size, just the same resolution.

blueswitch
06-28-06, 05:17 PM
I get the SLI ballon too...and my board only has one PCIe slot. Maybe it's a marketing thing since it takes me to information about how great SLI is.....anyway....reverting

AtomicMonkey
06-28-06, 05:28 PM
Kill that stupid taskbar icon. No baloons. Problem solved.

kovboi
06-29-06, 01:17 PM
new beta driver 91.33 claims to have fixed the SLI popup bug, among other things...
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_winxp_2k_32bit_91.33.html

EDIT: installed and tried 'em out. all is well in driverland. :D

jmt391
06-30-06, 03:06 AM
Hmm I just got the 91.31 drivers on my 7800GT and they improve performance

I only ran the benchmark in fear for a quick-bench but here are my before/after:

this ran at 1280x1024 with everything maxed out

FPS:84.21/91.31
min: 19/20
avg: 30/32
max: 59/59

FPS distribution: 84.21/91.31
below 25: 27%/18%
between 25 and 40: 55%/62%
above 40: 18%/20%

it's not an OMGLOLWOW performance gain, but a gain is a gain. I'm waiting before i get tweaked drivers because the only one I know of were released when the beta drivers were out so i wanna wait till they tweak the final ones.

EDIT:
BTW i see a lot of you complaining about the control panel but to tell you the truth i never used them in the 84's so i dont notice anything lol so i cant say anything there

Shinobi13
06-30-06, 10:38 AM
I installed these drivers and I did not see a drop in frame rates or any of the other problems. The only thing I noticed was that it said my 6800GS AGP is SLI capable. I wish, it would extend the life of my barton nforce 2 system even futher!

Yes the new look sucks, just change it to the classic look.:eek:

pookyman
06-30-06, 10:55 AM
You can change it back. Just go to Display Properties-->Settings-->Advanced-->nVIDIA tab-->Control Panel Interface.

mrgreenjeans
06-30-06, 05:18 PM
I've been runing the 91.28's for about 2 weeks and no probs. Switched to the classic cp, couldn't tand that XP friendly interface. Ugh!:attn:

Arca_ex
06-30-06, 08:01 PM
I'm using the new drivers, I downloaded them while I was at a LAN party and I actually got performance boost.

@icedragon, you better change your sig when Conroe comes out...