Anybody picked up an xbox yet? [Archive]

Staz

11-16-01, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by touser
several people i have talked to dont even know what an xbox is!

LOL.

My wife is one of those people. She wanted to know why we needed an X-Box with the PC we have. She thinks that $299 could be better spent on an upgrade to make our puter better than an X-Box.

My wife said (I love this and I quote) "Something like an X-box would be for someone that would go to cuitit city to buy a computer"

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by touser
well if i remember correctly microsoft did say that they where going to be restocking the stores once a week with a new shipment so that a shortage doesnt happen...but it is true it is not nearly as popular as the ps2 was when it came out..several people i have talked to dont even know what an xbox is!

Well down here, the Xbox was bigger than the PS2. When the PS2 launched, about 5 people camped out in front of Best Buy, my friends managed to get there just as the store opened, the PS2s on the shelf were barely touched. I was about the ninth person at 5:00 AM, 5 hours before the store opened. Come 6:30, two employees from Wal-Mart drove up and offered to sell us an Xbox at retail price, $314, I was no fool, I bought it and got out of the cold. They said they snagged a few before the store was flooded with people at the midnight launch. I went back later in the day to pick up two more games, DOA3 and Madden 2002, to go with Project Gotham Racing that I had bought the previous day. The girl at the register was one of the same ones I saw when I was camping outside, so I asked her how many finally showed up, she said all 50 sold out within minutes of the doors opening and you are only limited one per customer.

Anyway, I am beyond impressed with the Xbox. No crashes, very short and infrequent load times. I'm sorry, but no one's system here can reproduce some of the graphics the Xbox has produced today. Not unless Quantum3D gets back into making cards and makes a card with 2 or 4 GeForce 3 Ti500 chipsets on-board. The FMVs at the end of each character's story mode in DOA3 is beyond realistic. If you saw them, you would think they were live actors and not CG.

Well worth every dollar. Hell I would have to spend about 2X more than I did on the Xbox to get the graphic card equivalent of what the Xbox is capable of. The XGPU does 40 billion more instructions per second than the Ti500 and also has a higher fill rate, all the while having a smaller memory bandwidth, slower chip and RAM speed.

Who cares about the Xbox doing folding?

~RT~

jbell

11-16-01, 02:02 AM

I want the GAmecube!! if I want an Xbox I will get games for my amd - its bigger and faster!

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 02:20 AM

Few problems with the GameCube:

Controller - too small, designed with a child's hands in mind. Lots of people are already complaining.

DVD - It has none, there was a planned DVD player add-on, but like the Nintendo 64 DD, it's staying in Japan. No loss if you already have a DVD player.

Internet - If you wish to play online, you must purchase a modem or broadband adapter, neither come with the GameCube and neither have a designated launch date.

CPU - It's a Mac in a purple cube, PowerPC.

Games - Majority are still too kiddy in my mind, Pikmin for God's sake!

~RT~

jbell

11-16-01, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by RedneckTech
Few problems with the GameCube:

Controller - too small, designed with a child's hands in mind. Lots of people are already complaining.

DVD - It has none, there was a planned DVD player add-on, but like the Nintendo 64 DD, it's staying in Japan. No loss if you already have a DVD player.

Internet - If you wish to play online, you must purchase a modem or broadband adapter, neither come with the GameCube and neither have a designated launch date.

CPU - It's a Mac in a purple cube, PowerPC.

Games - Majority are still too kiddy in my mind, Pikmin for God's sake!

~RT~

Controllers are always small

I have two dvd players I don't need an all-in-one I need a TRUE gaming-ONLY-system

I hate the idea of playing online.

the N64 dd was not a dvd addon it was a hard drive/storage component so they could make bigger games.

Mac CPUs are way more efficient than PC chips! - always have bene especially at graphics!

games?

conker's bad fur day
james bond
perfect dark
nfl blitz
no game can ever match ZELDA
etc etc

jbell

11-16-01, 02:29 AM

LOL I think this might end up being moved to debates hehehehe

abb1

11-16-01, 02:40 AM

I am going to wait untill more games become available.
Abb

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by jbell

no game can ever match ZELDA

I care to disagree. Zelda has met his match and his name is "Cel"-da. Yup Zelda has gone the way of cell shading and it looks horrible in my opinion. Looks like a kiddy anime, a la Pokemon.

Here is the original Legend of Zelda for GC that was seen at Spaceworld:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/zeldademo/zdemo10.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/news/image/zeldacube/zeldacube3.jpg

and here is the Legend of Zelda for GC that you will be playing:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda10.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda15.jpg

and one more good measure

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda18.jpg

On the topic of controllers, the Xbox controller is hardly small. No bigger than the DC controller, but designed for us adult gamers.

~RT~

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 03:27 AM

To further elaborate the greatness of the Xbox, I woke up at 2PM on Wed. and so far have not gotten a wink of sleep since, been playing it all day long, finally going to get some sleep now.

~RT~

Ebola

11-16-01, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by RedneckTech
To further elaborate the crappiness of the Xbox, I woke up at 2PM on Wed, cried about how i wasted my money. and so far have not gotten a wink of sleep since, been crying all day long, finally going to get some sleep now.

~RT~

are you being drugged by bill gates.

jbell

11-16-01, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by Ebola

are you being drugged by bill gates.

tha games are sooo great that he can't leave this place to go play more!

jbell

11-16-01, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

I care to disagree. Zelda has met his match and his name is "Cel"-da. Yup Zelda has gone the way of cell shading and it looks horrible in my opinion. Looks like a kiddy anime, a la Pokemon.

Here is the original Legend of Zelda for GC that was seen at Spaceworld:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/zeldademo/zdemo10.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/news/image/zeldacube/zeldacube3.jpg

and here is the Legend of Zelda for GC that you will be playing:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda10.jpg
http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda15.jpg

and one more good measure

http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/zelda/celda18.jpg

On the topic of controllers, the Xbox controller is hardly small. No bigger than the DC controller, but designed for us adult gamers.

~RT~

My N64 has better graphics than that!! no way in *** that those are teh graphics of the gameseven after NMintendo said it is being more aggressive towards an older market!

Ebola

11-16-01, 06:14 AM

Smizack

11-16-01, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Staz

LOL.

My wife is one of those people. She wanted to know why we needed an X-Box with the PC we have. She thinks that $299 could be better spent on an upgrade to make our puter better than an X-Box.

My wife said (I love this and I quote) "Something like an X-box would be for someone that would go to cuitit city to buy a computer"

Heh!!

My wife WOULD go to circuit city to buy a computer!!:D

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by jbell

My N64 has better graphics than that!! no way in *** that those are teh graphics of the gameseven after NMintendo said it is being more aggressive towards an older market!

Here is Nintendo's reply to another disgruntled Zelda fan:

Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,

At Nintendo, we believe that the NINTENDO GAMECUBE will succeed on the basis of bringing players something innovative… something new. That holds from the shape of the console, to its connectivity with Game Boy Advance, to some ground breaking new titles.

The new Zelda is just another example of that desire to be different. What you see on screen is not only an unprecedented form of animation in a video game… but more importantly, an artistic vehicle for Mr. Miyamoto to reinvent the Zelda series, just as he has for the past 15 years.

We appreciate you sharing your feedback with us, and have forwarded your comments to the appropriate department for further review.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
Sharon Matheny

Too bad that artistic vehicle is a Pinto.

~RT~

Krome

11-16-01, 05:01 PM

this is a good thread, we have a PS2 and my brothers and I are debating the X Box, or the GameCube. I say GameCube, since they are getting METROID... AHHH SNAP!!!!

touser

11-16-01, 05:32 PM

well 3 of my friends picked up the xbox last night, and they all said it absolutely rocks, (2 of whom already own a ps2 so they are not biased towards one or the other) they said the load times are faster and that the graphics are even better...i dont know it sounds pretty good to me even though it is a pc in a box :D

Krome

11-16-01, 05:44 PM

I also heard that GameCube has graphics powered by ATI.. which is a extra special feature.

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Krome
I also heard that GameCube has graphics powered by ATI.. which is a extra special feature.

The ATI chip in the GameCube is on par with a Radeon VE. While the Nvidia chipset in the Xbox, tops all current Nvidia chipsets, even Ti500.

So if that's special...

~RT~

CrystalMethod

11-16-01, 07:10 PM

All I play are multi-player FPS' . As for graphics, they're nice and all, but how often am I really going to stop in the middle of a multi-player game to stop and look at textures?

touser

11-16-01, 07:12 PM

ok now i have a question..the xbox is capable of pushing out a maximum of 300,000,000 polygons per second..my question is what is that equivalent to in a pc? p4 2ghz with ti500?

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by touser
ok now i have a question..the xbox is capable of pushing out a maximum of 300,000,000 polygons per second..my question is what is that equivalent to in a pc? p4 2ghz with ti500?

Not sure, unless someone here has a P4 2GHz and TI500 and can benchmark it, I only go by core specs.

GeForce3 Ti 500

Graphics Core: 256-bit
Core Speed: 240MHz
Memory Interface: 128-bit DDR
Fill Rate: 3.84 Billion AA Samples/Sec.
Operations per Second: 960 Billion
Memory Bandwidth: 8.0GB/Sec.
Memory: 500MHz 64Mb DDR

XGPU

Graphics Core: 256-bit
Core Speed: 250Mhz
Memory Interface: 128-bit DDR
Fill Rate: 4 Billion AA Samples/Sec.
Operations per Second: 1 Trillion
Memory Bandwidth: 6.4GB/Sec.
Memory: 200MHz 64Mb DDR

~RT~

William

11-16-01, 11:06 PM

BestBuy sold out of their XBoxes though luckily someone's wife decided that he couldn't have his and made him return it. So we got the last XBox in the store. The Graphics are great, and I like the controller. Not as great as the N64 controller(my personaly fav) but it is big enough for the adults. No, I don't think there is the rush simply because people knew they didn't need to rush to get one. I don't think it will outsell the PS2, but it will rack up there. No crashes, impressive graphics, and just a cool look make it a very good system IMO.

Burning Phoenix

11-16-01, 11:21 PM

I missed out on buying the Xbox which sucks mostly because i was in it for making money like last years with PS2. I stood in line last year at Best Buy at 3am till opening. When i got there at 3am 40 people were already in line. I went to Best Buy earlier that day and the manager told me they had 140 units for sale the next day. So I went to the local bar with 2 friends who were willing to stand in line for me till 3 then headed over to Best Buy. Well I sold 2 of those PS2's for around $600 on Ebay. I didn't have the money this time to get the Xbox's. ****ED! I will buy one for myself as soon as i get my bills caught up. I'll probably give my PS2 to my daughter who loves Tomb Raider and Rayman. She's 10 and beats most of my friends at Tekken Tag and racing games!

On another note!
Not to be a trouble maker but I hate when people say don't buy a console but use their computer for games. What a waiste of computing power. You can't do anything constructive on a machine that averages $1000+ when a console unit only goes for $300 or less. I have way better things to do on my computer than play games on it. I only have one game on it and it's Unreal Tournament and thats because when i'm bored i play online and thats not very often.

VashTheStampede

11-16-01, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
I missed out on buying the Xbox which sucks mostly because i was in it for making money like last years with PS2. I stood in line last year at Best Buy at 3am till opening. When i got there at 3am 40 people were already in line. I went to Best Buy earlier that day and the manager told me they had 140 units for sale the next day. So I went to the local bar with 2 friends who were willing to stand in line for me till 3 then headed over to Best Buy. Well I sold 2 of those PS2's for around $600 on Ebay. I didn't have the money this time to get the Xbox's. ****ED! I will buy one for myself as soon as i get my bills caught up. I'll probably give my PS2 to my daughter who loves Tomb Raider and Rayman. She's 10 and beats most of my friends at Tekken Tag and racing games!

On another note!
Not to be a trouble maker but I hate when people say don't buy a console but use their computer for games. What a waiste of computing power. You can't do anything constructive on a machine that averages $1000+ when a console unit only goes for $300 or less. I have way better things to do on my computer than play games on it. I only have one game on it and it's Unreal Tournament and thats because when i'm bored i play online and thats not very often.

Well our Best Buy tried to put a stop to people in it for reselling. They handed out tickets about 30 minutes before the stores opened. Making it near impossible to hit up other stores for Xboxs.

~RT~

Burning Phoenix

11-16-01, 11:47 PM

The best buy i stood in line at handed out tickets also but i had 2 friends with me buying for me.

thestramel

11-17-01, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

Not sure, unless someone here has a P4 2GHz and TI500 and can benchmark it, I only go by core specs.

GeForce3 Ti 500

Graphics Core: 256-bit
Core Speed: 240MHz
Memory Interface: 128-bit DDR
Fill Rate: 3.84 Billion AA Samples/Sec.
Operations per Second: 960 Billion
Memory Bandwidth: 8.0GB/Sec.
Memory: 500MHz 64Mb DDR

XGPU

Graphics Core: 256-bit
Core Speed: 250Mhz
Memory Interface: 128-bit DDR
Fill Rate: 4 Billion AA Samples/Sec.
Operations per Second: 1 Trillion
Memory Bandwidth: 6.4GB/Sec.
Memory: 200MHz 64Mb DDR

~RT~

I'm not sure about those specs. And as far as killing a comp with a Ti500, that's extremely unlikely. Why don't you check out the article over at Van's hardware where they disect the Xbox. It's got a BGA Celeron mobile chip in it and and integrated nvidia graphics on a nforce-type board. Nice for a console but definitely no competition for a traditional PC based gaming system.

kardinal

11-17-01, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by RedneckTech
Few problems with the GameCube:

Controller - too small, designed with a child's hands in mind. Lots of people are already complaining.

DVD - It has none, there was a planned DVD player add-on, but like the Nintendo 64 DD, it's staying in Japan. No loss if you already have a DVD player.

Internet - If you wish to play online, you must purchase a modem or broadband adapter, neither come with the GameCube and neither have a designated launch date.

CPU - It's a Mac in a purple cube, PowerPC.

Games - Majority are still too kiddy in my mind, Pikmin for God's sake!

~RT~

hate to say it, but Nintendo is done for. i think they'll go the route of Sega. With MS and Sony on the block now Nintendo has no where to hide, and no chance to compete. Plus they dont have one graphic or gory game, not even one! and if they do its cartoonish. with that said, i think Nintendo wont be able to hang around much longer. it may be around for a year or two more, but after that.... see ya later mario!

kardinal

11-17-01, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Krome
I also heard that GameCube has graphics powered by ATI.. which is a extra special feature.

errrrr.... in my experience ATi SUCKS

get this,

Athlon 750,
384 megs of sdram,
Radeon 64 megs of DDR,
running win2k

and the most fps it could muster in Half-Life was 25fps, so i got my old GeForce 256 + detonators and pushed out 80fps

hrmmm 2 month old card (at the time) = 25fps
2 year old card = 80fps

i hope nvidia either takes out ati or they just keep kicking ATi's @ss in the graphics market

kardinal

11-17-01, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by CrystalMethod
All I play are multi-player FPS' . As for graphics, they're nice and all, but how often am I really going to stop in the middle of a multi-player game to stop and look at textures?

you arent a true gamer

:D:D

VashTheStampede

11-17-01, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by kardinal

hate to say it, but Nintendo is done for. i think they'll go the route of Sega. With MS and Sony on the block now Nintendo has no where to hide, and no chance to compete. Plus they dont have one graphic or gory game, not even one! and if they do its cartoonish. with that said, i think Nintendo wont be able to hang around much longer. it may be around for a year or two more, but after that.... see ya later mario!

First time, since the launch and failure of the Virtual Boy, that Nintendo has not launched a new console with Mario as a launch title. Sure you got Lugi's Mansion, but really? The only slightly promising title coming to GC before 2001 ends, is Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader and that's simply going on graphics alone. I can remember one or two SW games on N64 that totally sucked gameplay wise.

Gamecube = Next Virtual Boy?

~RT~

kardinal

11-17-01, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

First time, since the launch and failure of the Virtual Boy, that Nintendo has not launched a new console with Mario as a launch title. Sure you got Lugi's Mansion, but really? The only slightly promising title coming to GC before 2001 ends, is Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader and that's simply going on graphics alone. I can remember one or two SW games on N64 that totally sucked gameplay wise.

Gamecube = Next Virtual Boy?

~RT~

yeah i got rouge squadron for the 64

it was prolly the best game for the 64 i remember with the exception of golden eye

Silversinksam

11-17-01, 12:50 PM

The guys at [H]ard|ocp took one apart and posted pics of the 'guts'

http://www.hardocp.com/articles/xbox/index.html

thestramel

11-17-01, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by kardinal

errrrr.... in my experience ATi SUCKS

get this,

Athlon 750,
384 megs of sdram,
Radeon 64 megs of DDR,
running win2k

and the most fps it could muster in Half-Life was 25fps, so i got my old GeForce 256 + detonators and pushed out 80fps

hrmmm 2 month old card (at the time) = 25fps
2 year old card = 80fps

i hope nvidia either takes out ati or they just keep kicking ATi's @ss in the graphics market

Just curious how you measured this. Nvidia may be winning the graphics game but not because they have the best product out there. They've got plenty of fanboys who slobber over FPS and don't stop to think about image quality (2D, DVD playback). What's wrong with a little competition?

Krome

11-17-01, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by kardinal

errrrr.... in my experience ATi SUCKS

get this,

Athlon 750,
384 megs of sdram,
Radeon 64 megs of DDR,
running win2k

and the most fps it could muster in Half-Life was 25fps, so i got my old GeForce 256 + detonators and pushed out 80fps

hrmmm 2 month old card (at the time) = 25fps
2 year old card = 80fps

i hope nvidia either takes out ati or they just keep kicking ATi's @ss in the graphics market

I just got a Radeon 32MB SDR (PCI), and a sticker in the box says..."Radeon VE 2x faster than GeForce2 MX"

*Radeon VE/GeForce MX 200

CrystalMethod

11-17-01, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
On another note!
Not to be a trouble maker but I hate when people say don't buy a console but use their computer for games. What a waiste of computing power. You can't do anything constructive on a machine that averages $1000+ when a console unit only goes for $300 or less. I have way better things to do on my computer than play games on it. I only have one game on it and it's Unreal Tournament and thats because when i'm bored i play online and thats not very often.
I have SETI running in the background of both my machines, regardless if i'm playing a game or not. Both my machines combined I put together for less than $1000, including monitors.
Consoles just don't do it for me. they're fine for some people, but just not me. I have nothing against the consoles, I've had a few in my time, but there's a line between having 1 system that will do EVERYTHING, or having two different machines to do essentially the same thing. The only problem I have with the consoles is that, all they are useful for is playing games/DVD's/CD's, and it ends there. A well planned out PC can do everything, including runinng your house (lights, heating, A/C, etc...).

CrystalMethod

11-17-01, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by kardinal

you arent a true gamer

:D:D

I still consider framerates playable untill they fall below 10 FPS. Not many other gamers can boast that. The only reason I have a MX-400, is because my Voodoo 3 couldn't manage more than 7 FPS on one particular CS map.

kardinal

11-17-01, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by CrystalMethod

I still consider framerates playable untill they fall below 10 FPS. Not many other gamers can boast that. The only reason I have a MX-400, is because my Voodoo 3 couldn't manage more than 7 FPS on one particular CS map.

there are special drivers for the voodoo 3 that solves that problem, wickedgl is what theyre called i think...

whooping_a_panda

11-17-01, 10:08 PM

why would here need an x-box?

I mean basically the thing is just a wintell pc in a box ('X' shaped). You get all the same wonderous features with the x-box as with any otherr windows based pc (e.g. your blue screens of death, though ive heard they aren't really blue in the x-box's case).

But on the other hand there are some major downfalls to the system. For one has anyone ever tried to write an english paper with a game controller.. ya didnt think so. Two, online gaming. Theoretically it will work all fine and dandy but who here has ever heard of a perfect game at shipping time? I've never, and do you know how hard it is to patch a console game?

And for the final reason not to buy an x-box. Why would you want one you can't OVERCLOCK the thing... :(

FerrariF50

11-17-01, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

First time, since the launch and failure of the Virtual Boy, that Nintendo has not launched a new console with Mario as a launch title. Sure you got Lugi's Mansion, but really? The only slightly promising title coming to GC before 2001 ends, is Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader and that's simply going on graphics alone. I can remember one or two SW games on N64 that totally sucked gameplay wise.

Gamecube = Next Virtual Boy?

~RT~

The Virtual Boy was a sad peice of hardware........My eyes were just hurting because of the red lines......It was just a waste..And overpriced..

FerrariF50

11-17-01, 10:14 PM

VashTheStampede

11-17-01, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by whooping_a_panda
why would here need an x-box?

I mean basically the thing is just a wintell pc in a box ('X' shaped). You get all the same wonderous features with the x-box as with any otherr windows based pc (e.g. your blue screens of death, though ive heard they aren't really blue in the x-box's case).

And also do not exist, at least not in the final, shipped version of the Xbox, which is what counts. I've put my Xbox through all kinds of abuse, copying music, playing games for extended periods of time, leaving the Xbox on overnight, I've done everything except for take it apart and put it back together, which Van's Hardware reports they did successfully, and it works just as well. Still I have yet to see the GSODs, Green Screens Of Death.

But on the other hand there are some major downfalls to the system. For one has anyone ever tried to write an english paper with a game controller.. ya didnt think so. Two, online gaming. Theoretically it will work all fine and dandy but who here has ever heard of a perfect game at shipping time? I've never, and do you know how hard it is to patch a console game?

Well when was the last time you tried to write an English paper on your N64 or DC or PS2? Xbox is designed for gaming, nothing more, at the moment. Yes online gaming is a huge issue, anyone remember Phantasy Star Online, which now plagues the GC along with Duke Nukem Forever. The bugs and cheating going on forced Sega Team to develop and release Phantasy Star Online Version 2, another game Joe DC Owner had to go buy if he wanted to play PSO, because Sega had banned original PSO from their servers.

Though there was talks of patches being downloadable from Sega that would go onto your memory card or patch CDs being sent out. With the hard drive and minature Windows 2000 kernel, it is very feasible.

And for the final reason not to buy an x-box. Why would you want one you can't OVERCLOCK the thing... :(

You can overclock it, but by doing so would speed up gameplay to unplayable levels. Read Van's Hardware review on the issue of overclocking the Xbox.

~RT~

jbell

11-17-01, 10:48 PM

REDNECK - given a choice the XBOX would prooly come over the PS2 in my pocketbook....

Annoyingrob

11-24-01, 08:54 PM

I left school early on nov.15. I was so happy when i got it. yaay. lol, seriously though, Halo has the most amazing multiplayer, provided its with more than 2 people. DOA3 has amazing graphics. And Fusion Frenzy, well,, for those of you with Halo, check out the demo, it's a really addictive game, especially that one that spins around, and you have to jump and duck.

Personally, I think it was money well spent. I cant wait unti lUnreal Championship comes out.

P.S. Anyone else beat Halo yet?

Zuck Gou :)

11-24-01, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by FerrariF50

The Virtual Boy was a sad peice of hardware........My eyes were just hurting because of the red lines......It was just a waste..And overpriced..

Ya it is, I won 1 at Dairy Queen when it had come out.

I was expecting something sweet, but I got a horrible peice of junk that gives you migranes.

PsYko420

11-24-01, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by jbell

Controllers are always small

I have two dvd players I don't need an all-in-one I need a TRUE gaming-ONLY-system

I hate the idea of playing online.

the N64 dd was not a dvd addon it was a hard drive/storage component so they could make bigger games.

Mac CPUs are way more efficient than PC chips! - always have bene especially at graphics!

games?

conker's bad fur day
james bond
perfect dark
nfl blitz
no game can ever match ZELDA
etc etc

LoL zelda sucked SOOOOO SOOOO MUCH!(for n64) They totaly ruined it. As for nothing being able to touch it. Um Lets say Final fantasy?

PsYko420

11-24-01, 11:27 PM

Thats what I was thinking why didn't ms make the console and one that you stick in a cd drive bay to add to your comp that would be so kick@$* sell it for about 200 w/ a controller they'd sell so much better than a console and they'd make SOOOOO mcuh more money seeing as everybody has a pc.

parkan

11-25-01, 11:48 AM

I am planning to buy a pre-production model from a friend for $150 but I'm not sure it will work with all games/accessories.

VashTheStampede

11-25-01, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by parkan
I am planning to buy a pre-production model from a friend for $150 but I'm not sure it will work with all games/accessories.

Ewww pre-production = GSOD heaven (Green Screen Of Death). The pre-production models were what were in stores, the ones we grew so fond of crashing.

~RT~

abb1

11-25-01, 05:39 PM

HaHaHa,
Green screen of death. Only Microsoft!!!

]-[itman

11-25-01, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

Gamecube = Next Virtual Boy?

~RT~

I'll agree with you the Virtual Boy sucked. But how can you say gc=virtual boy when $98 million worth was sold in only the first day? http://www.nintendo.com/news/news_articles.jsp?articleID=5454 that's more than twice the xbox and the xbox is $100 more! I know it's ms's first year at a console but i can't see why Nintendo's done for! As for gory games...Resident Evil, and there's another one(can't remember the name). Personally i think those 2 games are just the start of it! Yes they have kiddy games but with the new games coming i think that just shows the wide variety you're going to get. The xbox does have a faster processor and gpu but(and especially in consoles) it's the image quality and how good everything looks that's important and ATI wins that one! Does anyone have TechTV? Did you watch the special editions of Extended Play where they compared these systems? They ALL agreed that the new Rogue Squadron coming out was the best looking game they had ever seen on any console! As far as controller I don't like the xbox controller! Having your hand stretched out over the thing is fine but after hours of playing it starts getting, for lack of a better word, hard. The GC controller to me is better for long hour gaming because you get to relax more with it than straining trying to reach the buttons. As far as DVD when i buy a GAMING console that's what i want to do on it GAME. If i want something to play DVD's on then i'll buy a dvd player(real dvd players are better than gaming console ones). I do have one question, does the XBOX come with a controller when you buy it? I know the PS2 didn't orignally and the GC does, just wondering. I do like both systems but you know which one i prefer. Just getting sick of everyone saying that Nintendo was done for!

Zeke009

11-26-01, 09:23 AM

With the power of these new console's, you are going to "lose" no matter which one you buy. It is all personal opinion and what titles interest you.

Both the PS2 and Xbox are very powerful and have a very impressive list of developers behind them, making a choice between the two difficult. I have agree with what was said above, Nintendo seems to be fading fast! And with the PS3 looming in the future... better think of a new game plan Nintendo!

Just imagine when a game is released that fully uses the Xbox's power! Has there been a game released that fully used the PS2? Devil May Cry just looked amazing! I watched a friend play a little of it the other night and was blown away!

Maybe I will whipe the spider webs off my wallet and pickup an xbox... it just looks far too impressive to pass up!

parkan

11-26-01, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by RedneckTech

Ewww pre-production = GSOD heaven (Green Screen Of Death). The pre-production models were what were in stores, the ones we grew so fond of crashing.

~RT~
No, it's not a model from the store (which looks like the final product) but a press model (shhh, dont tell M$ ;) ). It has a buetiful case, a smaller board and a slightly differend video system. And it's 1/2 price.