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Velocity
07-10-06, 06:21 PM
I found an old gateway system that I just want use for anything. It has a P3 at 450mhz (Katmai) Can I upgrade this to a P3 Coppermine I think they were called at like maybe 800 mhz? Here is some more 411 juse in case.



Specifications
Intel 440BX PCIset

* 82443BX PMC (492 mBGA)
* 82371EB PIIX4e (324 mBGA)

System Memory

* 100-MHz Memory Bus Speed (FSB)
* Three 64-bit or 72-bit (ECC) 4-clock, 3.3V, unbuffered SDRAM DIMMs
* Expandable to 384-MB of SDRAM (CAS latency of 2) using 64-Mbit chips
* Intel 4-clock 100MHz 64-bit unbuffered SDRAM DIMM specification compatible
* Uses gold-plated DIMM socket
* ECC signal and multiple bit detection (single bit correction) supported, using ECC DIMMs, can be enabled and disable in BIOS

Processor Slot SECC2 connector for IntelŪ PentiumŪ III Processor
HDD Interface

* Internal to core logic (PIIX4)
* Supports up to four IDE devices
* Uses two shrouded IDE connectors
* Dual independent channel support for Fast IDE (PIO) mode 3, mode 4, and ATAPI compatible CD-ROM drives
* Support for DMA modes 1, 2 (bus mastering), and Ultra-DMA33 on both channels Bus Mastering supported on both channels

I/O

* SMC FDC37C707 Ultra I/O with BIOS code base to match BIOS, which supports two serial and one parallel port, single FDD, keyboard, mouse, RTC, and IR
* I/O connectors include:
o Stacked PS/2 style mouse (top) and keyboard (bottom)
o Stacked DB25 connector for parallel port and two DB9 serial ports

USB Interface

* USB controller integrated into PIIX4
* Two USB 1.0 ports (one rear panel stacked connector), another USB header on board (a jumper must be used to enable/disable this header, when enabled the lower stacked USB connector will be disabled)
* Stacked USB connectors

Battery Socketed Lithium coin cell 3V (~5 year life) and external battery connector
Speaker

* On board piezo speaker
* Speaker header for off board speaker (part of front panel header)

BIOS

* Intel/Phoenix code base
* 4-Mbit flash support (TSOP)
o Pentium III processor detection and initialization
o Memory auto-configure and ECC support
o AGP set initialization module
o Autodetect keyboard, mouse, floppy, IDE, serial, and parallel devices
o CD-ROM boot
o Password secured boot
o User and administrator mode for system Setup screens with two separate password protected accesses
o Supports NON-volatile storage in BIOS flash
o PCI Configuration space and DMI support
o USB support with support for Legacy input devices
o Audio disable support in BIOS
o Supports bootable LS-120
o Ultra DMA/33 support
o ATAPI support for IDE CD-ROM and tape drives
o Int 13h extensions to support drives larger than 2GB
o AC power loss state retention management

Power Management

* BIOS control (on/off) of Power Supply fan
* BIOS control (on/off) of Processor Fan sink
* BIOS control of Dual Mode LED (Full-On/Suspend)
* Legacy APM 1.2 Power Management support of on-board peripherals
* Supports Soft-Off (Touch for one second or less puts the system in Suspend mode. Touch and hold for four seconds puts the system in the Full-Off state, where Full-Off has all power removed except Power Supply 5V Standby).
* Support for WOL
* Energy Star Compliant
* SMM, VESA monitor specifications
* Power down of ATAPI green enabled devices
* Standard 20 pin power header provides standby current used to maintain CMOS real time clock

PCI/AGP/ISA Slots

* Six total slots:
o Four PCI, one 1x(3.3v) AGP, one shared (PCI/ISA)
o All PCI slots are masters, rev 2.1
o All slots support full length cards

Front Panel

* 2x8 front panel header:
o Supporting Soft-off power switch
o Sleep switch
o IR interface
o HD LED
o Dual Mode (two color: green and yellow) Power LED (also called Sleep LED)
o Reset Switch
o Speaker
* Multiple 3-pin auxiliary fan connectors
* Stuffable Custom (1x26) header to match case configurations

Manufacturing

* Surface mount technology, single sided assembly
* Four layer PCB

Form Factor

* ATX form factor (12.9" x 9.6") - has existing BAT/AT plus three new holes (10 holes total)
* ATX 2x10 power supply connector - includes 3.3V and PS-ON

dicecca112
07-10-06, 06:37 PM
I have a coppermine that is 1GHZ, so they go up to that at least.

benbaked
07-10-06, 07:18 PM
it should run a coppermine just fine. for the higher speed socket 370 coppermines you'll have to get a slotket adapter. i believe they made 100mhz FSB coppermines up to 1.1ghz, 440bx shouldn't have a problem with that but you might want to get a decent heatsink/fan for it.

Velocity
07-10-06, 11:19 PM
Kool!!! thanks for the help. I'm going to update it to a P3@933mhz and max the ram out.(How did we live with 384 as being our max in memory?) Looks like linux will go in this one. So any suggestion on which flavor to use? I used fedora before and i'm now using OpenSuse, so anyone using something else?

wing
07-11-06, 08:15 AM
Gentoo is nice if you like to customize, SuSe is easy if you dont :)

Arca_ex
07-11-06, 12:13 PM
I used Knoppix just because of the ease of it, it boots right off the CD, don't need to take up HD space.

dwschoon
07-11-06, 02:22 PM
Kool!!! thanks for the help. I'm going to update it to a P3@933mhz and max the ram out.(How did we live with 384 as being our max in memory?) Looks like linux will go in this one. So any suggestion on which flavor to use? I used fedora before and i'm now using OpenSuse, so anyone using something else?

OEM boards with the 440bx chipset usually wont work with 133fsb cpu's. You might be stuck with a 100fsb cpu.

edit: Also make sure you get a slocket with voltage selections. I had a board that wouldnt supply below 1.8vcore, and had to manually set it to 1.8v to get my 1.7v PIII 800 to post.

Velocity
07-11-06, 03:20 PM
OEM boards with the 440bx chipset usually wont work with 133fsb cpu's. You might be stuck with a 100fsb cpu.

edit: Also make sure you get a slocket with voltage selections. I had a board that wouldnt supply below 1.8vcore, and had to manually set it to 1.8v to get my 1.7v PIII 800 to post.

Ok I'll have to downgrade the cpu so it will have a 100mhz fsb. I don't think the motherboard has the option to change voltage. But here are the parts I'm going to put into it.

http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=276
http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=71