View Full Version : I hate Water Cooling!!
ImportPsycho
07-31-06, 04:30 AM
for the second time I've failed
got all the parts and wrestled it all day long but...
http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/6540/dscn2186os6.jpg
it's not quite what I expected :bang head
it's the second time I couldn't fit them inside the case
last time I had small mid tower so I figured this time it would work since I gotta full tower case(Silverstone TJ06).
but yet again, it wont fit inside the case
my last solution is to try fillport and then smaller rad
or go back to air, it's been too much hassle already
Captain Slug
07-31-06, 04:41 AM
Ummm, you're supposed to figure out placement and mounting for the various parts before filling the loop. Your rad should fit in the bottom of the case. Or in the front if you hack off one of the floppy bays.
ImportPsycho
07-31-06, 05:20 AM
I know, just running it outside until I figure out what to do next...
floppy bay is rivetted to the case.. it's gonna be tough
gangaskan
07-31-06, 05:24 AM
i got the same case man i know what your going through
you should hack the floppy up as slug said. take your stuff out before you do it tho :) and work on that wire job hehe mine is a mess too :(
http://gangaskan.homeftp.net/pics/computer%20pics/IMG_0848.jpg
greenmaji
07-31-06, 05:25 AM
floppy bay is rivetted to the case.. it's gonna be tough
Thats what a drill is for. drill them out, the bay will pop right out.
I hate Water Cooling!!
Then go phase :p J/K
Captain Slug
07-31-06, 05:29 AM
You can also pop rivets out using an ice pick and a hammer.
gangaskan
07-31-06, 05:34 AM
dont mess up that front panel tho :)
while we're on the topic of this case... anyone else with the TJ06 have the front panel rattle like their is no tommorow? its driving me bonkers
>HyperlogiK<
07-31-06, 05:39 AM
Then go phase :p J/K
God No! I just got rid of my Vapochill, too big, too heavy, consumes too much power, and doesn't cool nearly as well as it should under high voltages and full load.
ImportPsycho
07-31-06, 07:24 AM
Thats what a drill is for. drill them out, the bay will pop right out.
You can also pop rivets out using an ice pick and a hammer.
really? I didn't know it was going to be that easy :beer:
when I get a fillport, this might just work
Milkman
07-31-06, 07:40 AM
I found that using a tee instead of a bay reservoir gave me alot more room and simplfied things, ofcourse theres alway the route I went Ufo-U2 case talk about tons of room:)
gangaskan
07-31-06, 07:55 AM
I found that using a tee instead of a bay reservoir gave me alot more room and simplfied things, ofcourse theres alway the route I went Ufo-U2 case talk about tons of room:)
eitehr that or something small like a swiftech micro res, or that res that fits in a single 3 1/2 bay i dont rember the name offhand, but thats freaking expensive like 44 dollars
greenmaji
08-01-06, 08:59 PM
God No! I just got rid of my Vapochill, too big, too heavy, consumes too much power, and doesn't cool nearly as well as it should under high voltages and full load.
Then there wasn't enough refigerant charge and or the cap tube was too long, for the correct load, but it was a J/K man ;)
btw.. If you thought it wasn't performing correctly you could have asked in the extream cooling section what was up.. the question would have been answered ;)
dont mess up that front panel tho :)
No, you can use a pop rivet gun and some pop rivets to put it back in.
you only have to drill through the rivet, no farther (or hammer it out like CS suggested, IME if you have a drill it does a cleaner job). You dont go all the way out to the front panel.
You have to realize that most cases are going to take some hole cutting/modding to install a watercooling loop. As was suggested, you can mount the rad either in the front, the bottom, or even on top of the case if you want to.
Moto7451
08-02-06, 12:22 AM
Sometimes you won't be able to find "the perfect case" for what you're doing. More and more people are building their own custom cases. I am :D.
>HyperlogiK<
08-02-06, 02:21 AM
Then there wasn't enough refigerant charge and or the cap tube was too long, for the correct load, but it was a J/K man ;)
I was getting about the same temps as reviewers did, it was the price/performance ratio that didn't satisfy me.
clocker2
08-02-06, 04:35 AM
The TJ06 can easily be watercooled...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/loop1.jpg
@gangaskan- No, I never noticed the front bezel rattling.
Slick case clocker2. I am wondering however how you can stand that D4 whine. My old D4 drove me nutz.
fireandice
08-02-06, 08:52 AM
clocker can i see more pics of your rig?
wow clocker... that is very neat... :D
SolidxSnake
08-02-06, 09:55 AM
OP, you have a full-tower case and you still can't fit all your parts in the case? I fit everything but the rad in my mid-tower case...
Deathknight
08-02-06, 09:48 PM
Best thing to do if you don't want headaches is plan plan plan. You can't overplan ;)
Unfortunatly that starts with case and part selection and you are already past that point. Still it is not too late. Take your time though. Instead of trying to "cram" the parts in, take some measurements and see what you need to ditch out of your case to make it work.
IMHO water cooling isn't hard, but its all in the preperation. Gotta do your homework ;)
hitbyaprkedcar7
08-02-06, 10:55 PM
Clocker.. I am impressed. And jealous. Love the res by the way :thumbs up: :)
P.S. stephen colbert<3
clocker2
08-03-06, 05:45 AM
I am wondering however how you can stand that D4 whine. My old D4 drove me nutz.
As did mine.
Which is why it's long gone.
As are most of the parts in that pic, for that matter- including the case.
I think I built the TJ06 almost two years ago...since then I've been through three Stackers and am now in a TJ07.
I kinda have a fetish about cases.
clocker can i see more pics of your rig?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/bezelopen.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/weapon1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/qv2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v78/clocker/quarterview.jpg
SolidxSnake
08-03-06, 09:22 AM
is that a custom built D4 housing??
hitbyaprkedcar7
08-03-06, 02:46 PM
Looks like it.. You can get them off ebay though.
clocker2
08-04-06, 05:31 AM
is that a custom built D4 housing??
It's a PolarFlo variant.
They make the ally pump head and use the Laing pump body.
It's kinda noisy I thought, although the bling factor is high.
gangaskan
08-04-06, 05:52 AM
i love that diamond plate clocker :beer: i see you hacked the hard disk bay lol i hate that thing it gets no air whatsoever :(
ImportPsycho
09-03-06, 07:35 PM
how does this look?
got some better tubing and at least now everything is inside the case :santa:
I couldn't put the reservor in 5.25 bay because the tube just wont bend that way witout folding
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4168/wxm8.jpg
gangaskan
09-03-06, 07:48 PM
how does this look?
got some better tubing and at least now everything is inside the case :santa:
I couldn't put the reservor in 5.25 bay because the tube just wont bend that way witout folding
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4168/wxm8.jpg
looks awesome better than mine :) i, however, dont have a big res anymore :)
hitbyaprkedcar7
09-03-06, 07:50 PM
Nice case, but your loosing a lotttttt of flow going pump>rad>res>cpu . Just think about it... Switch those tubes around and go res>pump>cpu>rad and youll see much better results
SolidxSnake
09-03-06, 07:51 PM
That's very clean now.
CCUABIDExORxDIE
09-03-06, 08:28 PM
Nice case, but your loosing a lotttttt of flow going pump>rad>res>cpu . Just think about it... Switch those tubes around and go res>pump>cpu>rad and youll see much better results
i dunno about you, but id say hes going pump > cpu > res > rad . the inlet is on the top of the pump, which is pointing sideways towards the cpu.
knightwolf6543
09-03-06, 08:32 PM
it is going pump > cpu > res > rad.. look closer the pump is sitting sidways,
it looks good i sure like it :D what kind of temps u getting???
hitbyaprkedcar7
09-03-06, 08:52 PM
ahhh your right. i was turning my head sideways to look at it, then looking at mine, and it looked backwards. My bad :)
Nice case, but your loosing a lotttttt of flow going pump>rad>res>cpu . Just think about it... Switch those tubes around and go res>pump>cpu>rad and youll see much better results
i concur :)
CCUABIDExORxDIE
09-03-06, 09:03 PM
i concur :)
:confused: :confused: :confused:
JustChill
09-03-06, 09:08 PM
came around nicely :)
nikita@quebec
09-03-06, 09:11 PM
came around nicely :)
yeah but its a hell wierd case.. motherboard is upside down :rolleyes:
SolidxSnake
09-03-06, 09:13 PM
yeah but its a hell wierd case.. motherboard is upside down :rolleyes:
BTX? It's not really that wierd...
BTW, for you guys saying pump->rad, look at the new pic where it's all in the case. It goes pump->cpu->res->rad->pump i believe (going from memory
CCUABIDExORxDIE
09-03-06, 09:49 PM
BTX? It's not really that wierd...
not BTX, w-ATX. there is a difference suprisingly, what it is, ill never know.
SolidxSnake
09-03-06, 09:53 PM
not BTX, w-ATX. there is a difference suprisingly, what it is, ill never know.
What the hell is a w-ATX? :santa:
CCUABIDExORxDIE
09-03-06, 10:01 PM
What the hell is a w-ATX? :santa:
upside down mobo....pretty much it, it just hates on heatpipe chipset coolers. :beer:
ImportPsycho
09-04-06, 02:06 AM
upside down mobo....pretty much it, it just hates on heatpipe chipset coolers. :beer:
bad for P5W/P5B deluxes /DQ6 etc..?
Now that you have got this together, you will find that it gets easier with every change and build. The first watercooling setup I did like to took me forever. Now I can plan a layout in my head in no time.
CCUABIDExORxDIE
09-04-06, 10:01 AM
bad for P5W/P5B deluxes /DQ6 etc..?
the P5B deluxe and the P5W Deluxe and the DQ6 will have issues bacuase of how the heatpipes on the mobo work. they are meant to when they get hot, have the heat wicked away to the highest point, but since they would now be upside down, the heat would just wick to the top of a chipset.
Moto7451
09-04-06, 01:07 PM
The difference between BTX and w-ATX is that BTX repositions the CPU and memory so that you can cool them better... in theory. The placement of the chipset was also changed to lower latency. And as a plus, its a hideous layout.
http://www.beareyes.com.cn/2/lib/200412/30/062/10.jpg
Who would put the ATX connector, floppy connector, and ATA connector where Intel wants them?
the P5B deluxe and the P5W Deluxe and the DQ6 will have issues bacuase of how the heatpipes on the mobo work. they are meant to when they get hot, have the heat wicked away to the highest point, but since they would now be upside down, the heat would just wick to the top of a chipset.
you're right... that sux!
Dragoon42
09-07-06, 09:17 PM
wow clocker2 has a nice case. Holy crap that thing looks roomy ^^
I'd switch it up to:
Res-->pump-->rad-->cpu-->res
If you go pump-->cpu then it's going to get the heatdump from the pump.
Phrenetical
09-07-06, 09:19 PM
not much of one, but the reason you go pump to cpu is thats where the flow is best and no restriction, it actually improves cooling effeciency.
:)
Nice job! It is a pain getting it to all fit. I had to go a bit more extreme with my install (link in sig).
Phrenetical
09-07-06, 09:31 PM
as everyone said your mounting and case were excellent.
but to be honest with you, i liked it more before your current flame mod, still is pretty awesome but.
^_^
while we're on the topic of this case... anyone else with the TJ06 have the front panel rattle like their is no tommorow? its driving me bonkersWhen I had air cooling in mine, it would rattle when I cranked up the Panaflo 120mmx38mm ultra high speed fan on my old XP-120. Now that I watercool, the only thing that rattles is one of my radiator standoffs.
as everyone said your mounting and case were excellent.
but to be honest with you, i liked it more before your current flame mod, still is pretty awesome but.
^_^
Thanks :D I kinda like the paint, but the case overall is way too heavy for frequent LANs, and the paint is to easily removed, so I have something even cooler in the works ;)
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