X850 Pro for $119.00

[Cirrith]

Hey guys. ATi is selling the X850 Pro AGP for $139. This card is VIVO, which means that the extra 4 pipelines are (supposedly) guaranteed to be unlockable. I ordered the card and confirmed that the BIOS flash does work. For anyone interested...

X850 Pro (http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2699206)
Flash Instructions (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100)

Also, using the coupon code ATILL5off will net you 5% off and free shipping, bringing the grand total to $144.26 shipped. Not bad for what is essentially an X850 XT.

[ziggo0]

Some can be flashed, some cant. I was unfortinate enough to get one that couldnt.

[Cirrith]

Was yours a VIVO? Most of the sites I've read say that the VIVO models have a 100% success rate.

Also, I initially thought mine was a failure, because the XT PE BIOS caused massive artifacts. However, when I went back and used just the XT BIOS, the pipelines unlocked without incedent and the card now runs great.

Just my experience.

[yo4444]

Actually, the price after the code is $132.05, not $144.26

[Cirrith]

$12.21 for tax, for some reason.

[yo4444]

oh.. ATI must be in TN then. I had no tax added... unless I didn't get far enough in the process

[cegha]

anyone know where i could get this card (or hte x800 pro vivo) for a cheap price like this, but for PCI-E.

[Cirrith]

ATi has the X850 Crossfire Edition PCI-E for the same price, if that helps.

[cegha]

ATi has the X850 Crossfire Edition PCI-E for the same price, if that helps.

Is it VIVO? Can it be modded to the X850XT PE, like in the guide?

Where is it at, i can't seem to find it on there site?

Edit: http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3019316

Is that it? Question still stands, can it be modded. Me and a friend are upgrading and i thought this would be a good route for both of us to go.

Edit 2: Do i need a crossfire motherboard, if i plan to only run 1 video card?

[ziggo0]

Was yours a VIVO? Most of the sites I've read say that the VIVO models have a 100% success rate.

Also, I initially thought mine was a failure, because the XT PE BIOS caused massive artifacts. However, when I went back and used just the XT BIOS, the pipelines unlocked without incedent and the card now runs great.

Just my experience.

Some AGP cards are Die & Laser locked, which completely disables the 4 extra pipelines. You can view this by shift clicking settings in ATITool. I flashed mine to XT PE and it just gave me the higher clocks, not the extra pipes, messed with it for about 5 hours, nothing, found out my card is hardcore locked :(. It is a VIVO, some are just unlucky.

[Cirrith]

Some AGP cards are Die & Laser locked, which completely disables the 4 extra pipelines. You can view this by shift clicking settings in ATITool. I flashed mine to XT PE and it just gave me the higher clocks, not the extra pipes, messed with it for about 5 hours, nothing, found out my card is hardcore locked :(. It is a VIVO, some are just unlucky.

Very, very interesting. You would definitely be the first VIVO I've heard of to be locked at the physical level. Your card had the yellow audio connector next to the power socket?

[BossBorot]

I've know about these deals for awhile now and the x850pro that ATi sells cannot have not been able to be unlocked by people who bought them, and are lazer locked! The x800xl is a better deal as that card was made to replace the x850pro and is also agp.

the x800xl is also 20 bucks cheaper then the x850pro; the x800xl also as the vivo chip.

[Cirrith]

I've know about these deals for awhile now and the x850pro that ATi sells cannot have not been able to be unlocked by people who bought them, and are lazer locked! The x800xl is a better deal as that card was made to replace the x850pro and is also agp.

Brochief, listen. I bought one from ATi. It was delivered yesterday. It wasn't laser locked. I now have 16 pipelines. So...there.

[Cirrith]

Is it VIVO? Can it be modded to the X850XT PE, like in the guide?

Where is it at, i can't seem to find it on there site?

Edit: http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3019316

Is that it? Question still stands, can it be modded. Me and a friend are upgrading and i thought this would be a good route for both of us to go.

Edit 2: Do i need a crossfire motherboard, if i plan to only run 1 video card?

I can't tell if it's VIVO or not. Probably not. You don't need a Crossfire mobo to run a single card.

[cegha]

I've know about these deals for awhile now and the x850pro that ATi sells cannot have not been able to be unlocked by people who bought them, and are lazer locked! The x800xl is a better deal as that card was made to replace the x850pro and is also agp.

the x800xl is also 20 bucks cheaper then the x850pro; the x800xl also as the vivo chip.

Hmm... can the X800xl be modded though?

Lazer is spelled laser. Seems Cirrith, got his unlocked.

Cirrith do you mind posting a few pics that shows yours is unlocked?

[Cirrith]

Yeah, I'll post some screens once I get home from the office. And I'm not sure on the X800XL...besides, even if it could be unlocked, it would only be an X800 XT. Maybe XT PE. I think you're better off with the X850.

[BossBorot]

Many people bought this card due to the hardforum [H]otdeal threat on it. http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1070975&page=18&pp=20

out of 353 posts so far no one who has bought the x850pro has sucessfully unlocked it. The odds dont look very good even if some one has unlocked it, you could take a risk and go for the x850pro for 20 bucks more if you feel lucky but that gamble is up to the buyer.

btw good job on the unlock!

You should post over in the hardforum thread to tell others of your success, if they do unlock most of the time you could help save some buy the better of the two cards. From info up until now no one has unlocked the cards from ati's clearance.

if you can unlock the x850pro its deffinately the better of the two deals. Also I like to spell laser as "lazer" after watching austin powers a few years back.

[cegha]

Yeah, I'll post some screens once I get home from the office. And I'm not sure on the X800XL...besides, even if it could be unlocked, it would only be an X800 XT. Maybe XT PE. I think you're better off with the X850.

Ok kool, i was just wanting to see for sure, not that i don't trust you.

But he said that the x800xl could be had for ~$20 cheaper. Assuming it could be modded, wouldn't that still be a better deal?

[Cirrith]

Here's a quote from the AnandTech review of the X800XL.

"This isn't to say that the X800 XL won't be a good overclocker, but you shouldn't expect it to be able to hit clock speeds as high as the X850 series."

Review can be found here. (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2299)

The X800XL has a core clock of 400MHz. The X850 Pro is 500MHz. Mine is currently running at 540MHz. So no, even if it could be unlocked to 16 pipes, I don't think the clock speeds would ever reach X850 levels. Now, if you're talking about an X800 with 16 pipes versus an X850 with 12 pipes, you could make a decent argument. But, based on my experience, that's not the case, and so the X850 wins hands down.

[BossBorot]

Now, if you're talking about an X800 with 16 pipes versus an X850 with 12 pipes, you could make a decent argument. But, based on my experience, that's not the case, and so the X850 wins hands down.


edit: a better compairison between the x850pro (12 pipe) vs the x800xl from the same source Cirrith used.

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2290&p=8

basically a 12 pipe x850pro = a 16 pipe x800xl. These are the cards that ati is selling, the x850pro is 20 bucks more.

the x800xl does have 16 pipes* out of the box and the x850pro has 12. The x850pro, even with 12 pipes, competes on basically equal footing with the x800xl thanks to a better core and higher clock speeds (but is 20 bucks more). If the x850pro can be unlocked to 16 pipes it will blow the x800xl out of the water period even if underclocked.

* http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/05/vga_charts_vii/page2.html

I'm just wondering how many of the cards that ATi are selling are the older non-laser bridge cut models and how many are the newer laser cut models.

ATi sells both versions it appears after browsing http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1070975&page=1&pp=20 I have found examples of both unlockable and locked x850pros. For every card that can flashed there apears to be at leat one that wont.

[cegha]

Here's a quote from the AnandTech review of the X800XL.

"This isn't to say that the X800 XL won't be a good overclocker, but you shouldn't expect it to be able to hit clock speeds as high as the X850 series."

Review can be found here. (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2299)

The X800XL has a core clock of 400MHz. The X850 Pro is 500MHz. Mine is currently running at 540MHz. So no, even if it could be unlocked to 16 pipes, I don't think the clock speeds would ever reach X850 levels. Now, if you're talking about an X800 with 16 pipes versus an X850 with 12 pipes, you could make a decent argument. But, based on my experience, that's not the case, and so the X850 wins hands down.

Ahh ok i see.

[Silversinksam]

Hey guys. ATi is selling the X850 Pro AGP for $139. This card is VIVO, which means that the extra 4 pipelines are (supposedly) guaranteed to be unlockable. I ordered the card and confirmed that the BIOS flash does work. For anyone interested...

X850 Pro (http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2699206)
Flash Instructions (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100)

Also, using the coupon code ATILL5off will net you 5% off and free shipping, bringing the grand total to $144.26 shipped. Not bad for what is essentially an X850 XT.


Even if it is laser cut, looking at the pics from the Flash Instruction site, it looks like a fairly easy fix to use a conductive pen to re bridge what the laser cut since the connection to both ends is on the surface.

[Cirrith]

Ok, screenshots. The first shot is of my order receipt, showing an X850 Pro. The second screenshot is of ATITool, showing 16 pipelines. Any questions?

http://thumb14.webshots.com/t/59/459/9/72/68/2833972680092402434hlhvnF_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/2833972680092402434hlhvnF)

http://thumb14.webshots.com/t/59/159/7/16/10/2331716100092402434MYiRsn_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/2331716100092402434MYiRsn)

[rainless]

Is it VIVO? Can it be modded to the X850XT PE, like in the guide?

Where is it at, i can't seem to find it on there site?

Edit: http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3019316

Is that it? Question still stands, can it be modded. Me and a friend are upgrading and i thought this would be a good route for both of us to go.

Edit 2: Do i need a crossfire motherboard, if i plan to only run 1 video card?

Yes it works for the PCI xPress as well. Great deal..

[Cirrith]

Yes it works for the PCI xPress as well. Great deal..

The question is not if it works for a PCIx X850...it's if it works on a Crossfire edition. Which is a significantly different card.

[cegha]

Ok, screenshots. The first shot is of my order receipt, showing an X850 Pro. The second screenshot is of ATITool, showing 16 pipelines. Any questions?

http://thumb14.webshots.com/t/59/459/9/72/68/2833972680092402434hlhvnF_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/2833972680092402434hlhvnF)

http://thumb14.webshots.com/t/59/159/7/16/10/2331716100092402434MYiRsn_th.jpg (http://community.webshots.com/photo/2331716100092402434MYiRsn)

Wow looks like you got in on a good deal.

[yo4444]

Is the refurb the only x850 pcie for that price? That would wipe out a 512 MB 7600gs, would it not?

[rainless]

Amazing deal. You can also get new ones for the same price on ebay... but not with free shipping and five percent off :)

The laser cut thing can be easily modified. At least 90 percent of those hundred and some-odd people that couldn't get it modded are probably under the age of 12...

And yes, the refurb pciE is the same price.

I love the cybe deals topic :)

[basso4735]

how about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

i know poster said agp, but good deal anyway.

[Will Eatforfood]

hmmm..... wtf.

[Will Eatforfood]

I justr bought that last night...110 shipped. :) 50 bucks cheaper than the 7600gt.

[Cirrith]

That XT is a really good deal. I love mine.

[rainless]

how about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

i know poster said agp, but good deal anyway.

Hahahaha! That just spit all over the X850 deal :eek:

[rainless]

I justr bought that last night...110 shipped. :) 50 bucks cheaper than the 7600gt.

How the devil did you get it for 110 shipped?

[basso4735]

Hahahaha! That just spit all over the X850 deal :eek:
:bday:

i may order one today.

[Will Eatforfood]

How the devil did you get it for 110 shipped?

hahaha.... my bad.. I meant after MIR, net cost=110. But ask the devil and 110 shipped is nothing.:mad:

[basso4735]

anyone know the differences between the other 2 x850xt's on the page?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=50001561+2000380048+106790821+1067914240&Subcategory=48&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=

[BossBorot]

Software bundle. One has prince of persia 1 and splinter cell pandora tomorrow but costs 20 bucks more, the other has no games but is 20 bucks less. The one with no mir prob is an older revision due to not having sapphires artwork on the card, also this card is oem, I guess newegg couldnt give it a mir due to no serial # that you could cut out and mail in.

[basso4735]

ok cool. so the one for 106 after rebate is the one to go for.

thanks

[Reefa_Madness]

New price on the X850 Pro AGP version for sale at ATI

Radeon® X850 Pro 256MB AGP - New + 1 Year Standard Warranty
Price: $119.00

...and the coupon for 5% and free shipping still works. To your door for $113.05, which in my opinion, isn't too shabby at all.

If you are looking for AGP, this is hard to beat, but if you are looking for PCIe, that Sapphire X850XT at the egg sure looks like a great buy.

[ShadowPho]

New price on the X850 Pro AGP version for sale at ATI

Radeon® X850 Pro 256MB AGP - New + 1 Year Standard Warranty
Price: $119.00

...and the coupon for 5% and free shipping still works. To your door for $113.05, which in my opinion, isn't too shabby at all.

If you are looking for AGP, this is hard to beat, but if you are looking for PCIe, that Sapphire X850XT at the egg sure looks like a great buy.

How much better is it than 6600GT? Will it hold untill DX10?

[basso4735]

How much better is it than 6600GT? Will it hold untill DX10?
i sure hope so lol.

[Reefa_Madness]

This card compares to the 6800GTs and when modded, to the Ultras.

It blows away the 6600GT.

[cegha]

hey save me an X850XT, i gotta sell some stuff then im jumping on that bandwagon.

[basso4735]

This card compares to the 6800GTs and when modded, to the Ultras.

It blows away the 6600GT.
what can it be modded to?

[cegha]

what can it be modded to?

The X850XT can't be modded to anything, mabye oc'd to PE speeds but thats about it.

[basso4735]

The X850XT can't be modded to anything, mabye oc'd to PE speeds but thats about it.
tahts what i thought...

[Reefa_Madness]

Since the question quoted my post, I understood the question about comparing the 6600GT to be referring to the X850 Pro (AGP), therefore my reply related to modding/flashing it to open all 16 pipes from the stock 12. If you look, you'll notice in the sig of the poster, ShadowPho, that he is running an AGP system with a Northwood processor.

Your are right about the X850XT...it does not need to be modded...just overclocked. :)

[grumperfish]

Even if it is laser cut, looking at the pics from the Flash Instruction site, it looks like a fairly easy fix to use a conductive pen to re bridge what the laser cut since the connection to both ends is on the surface.
As far as I understand it they're cut on both sides of the die, so a pen won't work (at least mine was :( ). I'm thinking about buying one of these and giving mine to my little brother [provided the new one unlocks - if not I'll just keep whichever clocks highest].

[Will Eatforfood]

As for the 6600gt comparison, this should pull ahead of two 6600gts in SLI. it is slightly faster than the 7600gt, altho the fanboys would never agree. Just lacks lots of newer features like SM3.

[cegha]

As for the 6600gt comparison, this should pull ahead of two 6600gts in SLI. it is slightly faster than the 7600gt, altho the fanboys would never agree. Just lacks lots of newer features like SM3.

Would this be the X850XT?

[Reefa_Madness]

Since he is comparing this to PCIe cards, then yes, I would say that he is referring to the X850XT. That is simply a great card for $112 or so, shipped (after the MIR).

[Oxalic32]

As far as AGP goes, how good is this card? My friends was looking at a 7800GS and i suggested it. I know they have performance differences, but they also have a big price gap.

[cegha]

As far as AGP goes, how good is this card? My friends was looking at a 7800GS and i suggested it. I know they have performance differences, but they also have a big price gap.

Probably VERY similiar gaming performances. You will probably only see a difference in benchmarks.

The only real difference is the ATI cards are lacking SM 3.0. So go nvidia if you desire SM 3.0.

Personally i would just get the ATI to use for the time being and wait it out for DX10 cards then upgrade again then.

Edit: I'm thinking of the 7600GT/GS cards, the 7800GS will probably have a little bit of performance gap between a X850XT, but again, i would just get the X850XT then upgrade again when DX10 cards come out.

[Oxalic32]

Check out tom's hardware
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/02/nvidia_7800gs_confirms_agp_aint_dead_yet/page5.html
It benchmarks real well against the $250-300 7800GS.

[Oxalic32]

Got a good deal for a pci xpress version?

[cegha]

Check out tom's hardware
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=470738
It benchmarks real well against the $250-300 7800GS.

You seem to have posted a link to this topic, lol.

Might wanna fix that.

[Oxalic32]

fixed.

[Oxalic32]

One of my friends claimed this is no longer in production and must be a refurb. Is he spewing crap or is it refurbished? Looks like a buy for a new card to me.

[BossBorot]

Yes the card is out of production but that doesn't mean much. ATi still has back inventory to clear from the last generation. Just because a chip maker stops pressing chips doesn't mean the product will disapear from the market right away.

If the product is not refurb but is on clearance it only means that they have a product that they overestimated demand for so they have to cut the cost to make it more appealing and need to free up space and assets for the next generation of products.

Basically this deal is similar to the bargin bin in video game stores some video games there are used but others just had to much supply. This also doesn't even mean that the product is bad, for example you could pick up beyond good and evil for like 10 bucks from a bargin bin brand new.

[johnny*]

I'm about to pull the trigger on one of the AGP models at the ATI site, but had a quick question. Assuming the X850 Pro can't be unlocked, which is the higher performing card between that and the X800 XL (assuming average OC on both)? I've always been an nVidia guy and am not at all familiar w/ the ATI cards.

[Cirrith]

As has been stated before, the X800XL is pretty comparable to the X850 Pro. The 16 pixel pipes on the XL help make up the difference in clock speeds. That said...

The X850 Pro is now selling for $119. If you read the specs for the card they do state, clearly, that it is a VIVO model. Now, from what I've read, all VIVO cards should be 16-pipe unlockable, although many people disagree. However, it is my opinion that you are better off buying the X850 Pro and having a chance to destroy the X800XL as opposed to taking the sure 16 pipe solution.

Just my two cents.

Also, on another note, I've had to remove the overclocks from my card. My X850 Pro will run stable with XT settings, but nothing more.

[Reefa_Madness]

Consider doing the volt mods to that X850 pro for increased performance.

There is a nice "How to" guide over at TechPowerUp.com for doing this to the entire X800 - X850 line of cards.

[BossBorot]

Now that the price has dropped on the x850pro it is now the better deal for a few reasons.

1) out of the box they both perform the same (+-1% with neither pulling ahead)
2) the x800xl has little overclocking room
3) the x850pro has more overclocking room
4) you have a chance of unlocking the x850pro to a x850xt
5) the x850pro is new
6) the x800xl is refurb

the only negative is that the x800xl is guaranteed to have vivo where as the x850 may or may not have it depending on what ATi ships you.

even if you don't care about unlocking the 16 extra pipes, or are pessimistic about the outcome, then the x850pro is still worth it due to its overclocking potential. That is unless you NEED vivo and are not willing to take a risk on the x850pro having it or not.

[Reefa_Madness]

"the only negative is that the x800xl is guaranteed to have vivo where as the x850 may or may not have it depending on what ATi ships you."


Why is it that you make this comment? Has someone purchased one of these X850 Pro models and not received a VIVO version?

From the ATI product description of the X850 Pro:

Features
256MB GDDR3 memory
12 parallel rendering pipelines
AGP 8X support
DirectX® 9.0 and OpenGL® 2.0 support
3Dc™ technology
SmartShader™ HD technology
SmoothVision™ HD technology
VideoShader™ HD technology
Hyper Z™ HD technology
DVD video playback
S-video and composite video input and output (VIVO)
HDTV support

[g0dM@n]

Wow... $113 shipped after the 5% coupon is a steal for anyone on AGP... nice.

And I read in this thread about an attempt to fix the laser cut? I thought it still doesn't work even if you do that... at least that's what I was told.

Anyone KNOW FOR SURE of someone that had a laser cut and was able to still get 16 pipes with conductive paint/solder?

[Reefa_Madness]

Worst case it doesn't open up all the pipes, so you go with 12 and hopefully overclock it enough to compensate.

This is a brand new card after all, not a refurb or a used one purchased in the Classifieds. Like you said, for $112, shipped, what is there to complain about?

[g0dM@n]

Worst case it doesn't open up all the pipes, so you go with 12 and hopefully overclock it enough to compensate.

This is a brand new card after all, not a refurb or a used one purchased in the Classifieds. Like you said, for $112, shipped, what is there to complain about?
right... and honestly, i prefer the x850pro over the x800xl... i feel like the pro has more headroom...

[7dcharger]

I just bit, My 9800pro died about 4 months ago and the X850 should be a nice upgrade over my 9500pro that I'm running at the moment even if it doesn't unlock. I'll let you guys know if it unlocks or not.

Edit: Ok next question, what cooler for it?

Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 5 Rev 2 or Thermalright V1 Ultra VGA Cooler ?

[7dcharger]

x850pro's are no longer listed at the ati clearance center.

x800 XL is still there...

[g0dM@n]

It was a STEAL while it lasted...

[johnny*]

Sorry to derail the thread but...

Just received my new x850 pro AGP card from ATI and can't get it running for the life of me. I uninstalled my trusty 6600gt and ran Driver Cleaner Pro in safe mode, tried the drivers the new card came with, attempt to open even the 3D tab in Catalyst Control Center and my computer freezes, then VPU recover kicks in and seems to disable openGL. Tried downloading the newest Catalyst drivers (6.7) from ATI.com, uninstalled old drivers as before, same result. Any sort of 3d application will run for a few frames, then freeze. It's even freezing up while web surfing (once VPU kicks in and disables openGL, it no longer happens)

Did I get a dead card or am I doing something wrong? BTW, yes, the molex input on the card is connected, in case someone was going to ask.

[g0dM@n]

Sorry to derail the thread but...

Just received my new x850 pro AGP card from ATI and can't get it running for the life of me. I uninstalled my trusty 6600gt and ran Driver Cleaner Pro in safe mode, tried the drivers the new card came with, attempt to open even the 3D tab in Catalyst Control Center and my computer freezes, then VPU recover kicks in and seems to disable openGL. Tried downloading the newest Catalyst drivers (6.7) from ATI.com, uninstalled old drivers as before, same result. Any sort of 3d application will run for a few frames, then freeze. It's even freezing up while web surfing (once VPU kicks in and disables openGL, it no longer happens)

Did I get a dead card or am I doing something wrong? BTW, yes, the molex input on the card is connected, in case someone was going to ask.

Have you tried a different PSU or took a DMM to your +12v line? Could be a power issue...

You could always try a reformat/reinstall...

[johnny*]

Unfortunately I don't have access to another PSU nor do I have a voltmeter handy (I assume that's what you mean by DMM :confused: ), but I'd have to imagine this PSU can handle the load as it's never given me problems before. I guess I'll try a full reformat/reinstall when I have some time.

Can I safely assume it's not a faulty video card then? I've tried 3 different sets of drivers now w/ the same results, in addition to reinstalling my nf3 chipset drivers. Anything else I should try before a full reformat? :bang head

[Cornel]

I had pretty much the same problems as you... The X850 replaced a 9800Pro and I couldn't get the new card to work right until a did a full reinstall of the OS... No problems ever since...

C.

[7dcharger]

Card came in yesterday, not bad! ordered it Monday and got here Wednesday...
I installed it this morning and didn't have a lot of time to fool around with it. I did find out that the Fuses and Die code do not have 'F' in the correct postions in the strings. I have a '7' and and 'E', so I think I might be SOL on unlocking the 4 extra pipes. I'll give it a try anyway and see what goes on.

[Kibokun]

My X800XL is in Maryland somewhere now (I'm in baltimore) so I'll tell you guys how it works if anyone has been thinking about it. :o I think it's the best deal I can find on the net right now since I don't have good enough cooling for overclocking significantly nor do I really feel like squeezing a few fps out of my card while blowing on it for those extra degree drops. haha

EDIT: Just got it installed and it's working PERFECTLY. Now I'm running Obliv. at high settings with minimal lag outdoors in the rain. ;)

[BossBorot]

Just so everyone knows the x850pro is in stock it was just taken out of the clearance section..... its here (http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2699206) at the same price.

[Reefa_Madness]

Very good find on that X850 Pro...options are always a good thing.

[g0dM@n]

I don't even own AGP and I want this card... is that weird or what? lol

[7dcharger]

Well, no luck on the unlocking of the 4 extra pipes, flashed the card and it did not unlock. It will run at the XT PE core and memory speeds, but I'm going to wait untill the aftermarket cooler is here to push it.

[g0dM@n]

Even at 12 pipes, these cards rock... i'm sure you can easily push 550/550... I know you'll go further, but you can do 550/550 even with a stock cooler for sure.

This has the 1.6ns memory instead of the 2.0ns like the x800 cards, right? If so, you can break 600mhz mem...