View Full Version : T-line vs Resivior
||Console||
08-23-06, 11:21 AM
Wow my first install of my new H20 setup went fine I used a Resivior . So yesterday i deside to clean every thing up put my rad in my case and such . Also desided to try a T-line this time (will be the last time for sure ) . With my resivor it took no time less than 10 min to get most of the bubbles out of the system , With the T-line i spent a few hours! cycling the power on the pump to remove the air , and it still isnt to the point the setup was with the resivor . An I doing somthing wrong with my tline it is inbetween my pump and my rad . If not then Y do people use these ? when a resivor seems to do the same job but is eaiser to fill and 100times easier to bleed .
Mr.Guvernment
08-23-06, 11:46 AM
wiht my t-line i left it over night, but with a t-line it wont restrcit flow as much as a res does.
Some pepole say put your T line before your pump, i put my T line after my pump, before my CPU and it took a couple hours to get the air out, as i had the rad out too and rotating the rad to get all of the air out of it.
When I was WCing it would be a good day or so before everythign was out with a T-line. I prefer the t-line method myself as I dont like haveing a tub of liquid inside my case. Just means more can go wrong if it leaked.
I also find that filling is very easy with a T-line when setup correctly. Even when it is in the process of getting all the bubbles out you still get very good cooling. So just leave it on and it will work everythign out itself as long as you have it setup properly.
I had my T-line after my CPU and before my pump.
XeonStrikeForce
08-23-06, 12:31 PM
Flip a coin and pick thats about the sum of it.
I personally prefer reses as purging is very fast and it is easy to add multiple circuits of different sized tubing.
infinitevalence
08-23-06, 12:35 PM
one thing that is very cheap and easy is 2 T lines one at the top of the case the other at the bottom. that way you can let in air when purging and let out air when filling. And it still costs less than a res.
XeonStrikeForce
08-23-06, 02:23 PM
but you take a flow restriction penalty.
infinitevalence
08-23-06, 03:15 PM
a very small one yes
Icedfire101
08-23-06, 06:34 PM
well t-lines are very simple and require alot less room then a res does, not to mention cheaper and you don't have to worry about a res leaking on you
though with a t-line you will have to do a little more work filling it up then with a res, but if you know what you are doing then it should be almost as easy
here is my advice put the t-line at the bottom of the loop, then when you are ready to fill the loop flip the computer on its top so that the t-line is the highest point in the loop fill the loop with water then tilt it around a bit to get any of the air bubbles out and then top the t-line off and cap it off and then turn it right side up and plug it in and play... then when ever you want to drain your loop the t-line is already on the bottom and it should be very easy (probably easier to drain then if you had a res)
Rysjimmy1994
08-23-06, 06:42 PM
My t blead in about 30 min. Apparently thats rare?
Icedfire101
08-23-06, 07:03 PM
My t blead in about 30 min. Apparently thats rare?
Mine doesn't take any longer then that either...
Rysjimmy1994
08-23-06, 07:20 PM
I really dont see what the big deal is with them. If you put them in the right place and dont let them run dry, you wont have issuses!
||Console||
08-23-06, 08:18 PM
my case is to big to flip around as easy as you make it seam . I cant move my rad where it is thats y it has taken to bleed with the tline .
Rysjimmy1994
08-23-06, 08:27 PM
To Big?
http://rjkipping.homeip.net/ocf/IMG_1461.JPG
This is my case. Its 26 inches tall, and I had no problem flipping it around. Not trying to make this into an Im better then you, but it can be down.
QuietIce
08-23-06, 09:40 PM
my case is to big to flip around as easy as you make it seam . I cant move my rad where it is thats y it has taken to bleed with the tline . I had the same problem, a non-moveable, external rad. I just let it run overnight and woke up to nice, clear lines the next morning ...
wiht my t-line i left it over night, but with a t-line it wont restrcit flow as much as a res does.
I would like to know how a res "restricts" flow? I've never seen one that does.
A t-line works well when you can get one placed at the top of your loop. Otherwise, it takes days to work the bubbles out. A res of course also works the best when it is at the top of the loop, but it works well still even when it is not at the top of the loop. I will say however that the only good commercially made res that I see is the Swiftech microres. I don't care for bay reservoirs at all, and most other reservoirs I see just don't make a lot of sense to me. I make my own reservoirs out of 1/4" acrylic and pressure test them to make sure that leaking is not an issue. I also run the res to a fillport to make filling easy.
I have tried both ways, and I really prefer making my own custom reservoirs as that way I can set them up the way I want for the given setup. T-lines to me are just too much of a hastle.
clocker2
08-24-06, 08:41 AM
I would like to know how a res "restricts" flow? I've never seen one that does.
Yeah, that argument always gets me too.
Furthermore, unless you're talking about a faulty reservoir that leaks from a seam (which says more about the construction than the utility of reservoirs in general), both rezzes and t-lines have the same number of hose/barb connections, so the likihood of leaking is exactly the same.
I've tried (unsuccessfully) to prefer t-lines...a reservoir is unquestionably easier...but am considering a dual t-line (one high, one low) just for experimental reasons.
||Console||
08-24-06, 09:06 AM
Yeah, that argument always gets me too.
Furthermore, unless you're talking about a faulty reservoir that leaks from a seam (which says more about the construction than the utility of reservoirs in general), both rezzes and t-lines have the same number of hose/barb connections, so the likihood of leaking is exactly the same.
I've tried (unsuccessfully) to prefer t-lines...a reservoir is unquestionably easier...but am considering a dual t-line (one high, one low) just for experimental reasons.
T line as one extra barb
QuietIce
08-24-06, 10:53 PM
T line as one extra barb ... that isn't a part of the loop. It's a dead end branch with no water flow.
I know I'm new to this but both my loop designs have T-lines and both were at the bottom. I did put a slight "hump" in the line at the T so the bubbles would slow down a little at that point. I just filled and bled the second loop this evening. I had to refill the T three times to fill up the loop and it took about an hour to get clear lines. Shorter loop, much shorter time for bleeding than the first design.
The "T" is 1/2 x 1/2 x 3/4" copper and works perfect - no restriction at all with 1/2" tubing ...
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