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sicloan
08-23-06, 02:52 PM
Well I got my e6600 today from newegg, bought it last thursday :) As soon as the thing arrived I had it out of the box and in my rig. Tried to get a shot of the IHS but my camera takes crappy macro's.

Rig:
Intel Core 2 Duo e6600
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Corsair 1GB x 2 DDR2 800 (dunno the exact model, i need to check on that) >> Will be upgraded to teamgroup xtreem ram on friday (when it is delivered)
PCP&C 610 Silencer EPS
2x WD 250gb SE16 drives

Overclocking so far:

Didnt even bother at stock, so i immediately bumped it up to 300 fsb, booted no problem.

Right now i'm at 350, working good and dual prime stable, temps were max 40c on load (on water cooling)

Going to try 380 next, then probably 400 if i can get some pointers, like what VCORE it needs, ect....

dylskee
08-23-06, 03:10 PM
Very nice setup, subscribed........ I'm looking to get a very similar setup as your's. Use this to check your temps though http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=137

sicloan
08-23-06, 03:43 PM
Super PI 1M @ 370 FSB x 9 = 3333 mhz 15 s

Now to prime at 370 fsb and see if its truely stable here...

dylskee
08-23-06, 04:10 PM
Dayuum, these things are fast!!! :eek: Just out of curiosity what are your temps like using Core Temp?

sicloan
08-23-06, 04:16 PM
Temps are 46c load on both cores.. havent seen anything higher.

370 fsb wasnt stable, i might have been putting too much vcore in it or dont have a setting right. i'm priming 360 fsb right now, perfectly stable at 46c load using coretemp. If someone could jump in and give me some pointers for higher FSB that'd be great.



Currently 360 fsb, 1.4500 fsb is What i set it at, droop is pretty bad though as you will see in this ss.

Edit, 360 fsb is probably my 24/7 mark unless i get 380 stable, which is where i would like to sit as long as temps aren't too bad.

sicloan
08-23-06, 07:40 PM
Figured out my FSB wall at 370... Now i'm at 400 fsb, i have really lax mem timings though though :(

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=114713

nd4spdbh2
08-23-06, 07:42 PM
Figured out my FSB wall at 370... i have really lax mem timings though though :(

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=114713


you say 370 but pic says 400?

sicloan
08-23-06, 08:00 PM
i meant that i was having an FSB wall at 370 before, but found out a fix by enabling SPD timings which allows you to go above the 370 wall. So yeah I hit 400 fsb...

updawg
08-23-06, 08:09 PM
i bet its not orthos stable @ 400fsb, for me to get orthos stable at 400 fsb takes 1.65 vcore and mch same exact setup.

sicloan
08-23-06, 08:12 PM
updawg what voltage are you pumping for 370 fsb?

MikeyLikesItSI
08-24-06, 09:37 AM
i bet its not orthos stable @ 400fsb, for me to get orthos stable at 400 fsb takes 1.65 vcore and mch same exact setup.


Ouch thats a lot of vcore! What are you using for cooling? i'm 400FSB orthos stable with 1.475 vcore. with a 29c ambient, and 10 hours orthos, i was averaging 48c temps. I don't trust "core temp" as it shows higher temps then the damn prescotts do and these chips are almost half the wattage. at Idle, with stock everything, coretemp shows like 45c. i don't believe it for a second.

dylskee
08-24-06, 11:07 AM
^^^45c @idle with stock settings! What are you using for cooling, air i assume? That doesn't sound right to me, what are your temps like when you overclock that thing?

MikeyLikesItSI
08-24-06, 11:21 AM
^^^45c @idle with stock settings! What are you using for cooling, air i assume? That doesn't sound right to me, what are your temps like when you overclock that thing?


read what i wrote again. i said at 3.6 (400 fsb) and 1.475 vcore, i'm showing temps of 48C under full load. i said i don't TRUST core temp as it shows 45c at all stock settings at an idle, and AIbooster shows 29c at idle.

when clocked at 3.6, core temp reports like 59-61C under load, and AIbooster shows 47-48C under load. I do not believe core temps readings. They are just not reasonable given all things taken into account.

My prescott with a much higher TDP rating didn't get that hot, so, i don't believe coretemp. I don't care what "sensor" it supposedly reads from. AFAIK, there are 2 sensors on the chip. one is for reporting temps to software (such as AIbooster) and the other is for on die use only, and thats what the CPU uses to shut down the core at dangerous temps.

Rattle
08-24-06, 11:24 AM
I think they are accurate for some and not for others even on the same hardware, I have seen to many freaky temps come out of some peoples chips using core temp.

dylskee
08-24-06, 11:29 AM
read what i wrote again. i said at 3.6 (400 fsb) and 1.475 vcore, i'm showing temps of 48C under full load.

when clocked at 3.6, core temp reports like 59-61C under load, and AIbooster shows 47-48C under load.
I'm sorry, that's a bit confusing. :)

Rattle
08-24-06, 11:39 AM
hows that confusing ? CORE TEMP gives him over 10c higher on load temps and 16 at idle doesnt make sense, core temp is FOS is all hes saying. How can a 6600 stock at idle be 45c and 29c on another proggy

dylskee
08-24-06, 11:42 AM
^^^Sorry a little hung over this morning. :bday: I thought he was reporting Just Core Temp readings, my bad..... Need more asprin!

Rattle
08-24-06, 11:44 AM
I hear that I dont have a hangover though I Am sick, i wish my hardware was here already lol

dylskee
08-24-06, 11:47 AM
^^Where did you order from? Hopefully i'll be placing an order within a couple weeks.

sicloan
08-24-06, 02:12 PM
I got mine proc through the egg and board at ewiz when it was $227 + free shipping!

Ill see what else I can do with it today.

Rattle
08-24-06, 02:14 PM
I got my e6600 from allstarshop and p5bdeluxe from xpcgear for $230 shipped
ram from the egg...

fritzman
08-24-06, 03:47 PM
So yeah I hit 400 fsb...

Good job...

several of us have exactly the same board/cpu combo here, so would be really interesting to see what settings we have different...

What can you do (other than a cpuz screenie) at 400?

Mine is really rock-solid, ORTHOS, etc at 367... She'll do a 1Mb superpi at 393 (14.516sec), but not a 32Mb.

Illyest
08-24-06, 04:23 PM
i meant that i was having an FSB wall at 370 before, but found out a fix by enabling SPD timings which allows you to go above the 370 wall. So yeah I hit 400 fsb...

What ram are you using? Is it Patriot PC2-6400 2x1GB 4-4-4-12 LLK sticks? If so I've had my suspicions about those...

On my P5WD2-E they will error in MEMTEST at anything other than the 1:2 ratio @ PC2-6400. That meant trying to run say 266FSB 1:1 would error through the roof. 3:4 would work fine as longs as I kept them under 900ish MHZ. Anything faster i need 2.4Volts and super lax timings which wasnt worth it.

PDP rating them PC2-6400 @ 4-4-4-12 is a bit decieving I think.

DaveB
08-24-06, 04:40 PM
Just popped an E6600 in my Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3. Haven't done much, but here's a SuperPi 1M run with loose DDR timings (5-6-6)

http://i8.tinypic.com/25hzh3s.jpg

Rattle
08-24-06, 04:42 PM
nice what vcore on the 6600?

sicloan
08-24-06, 05:00 PM
What ram are you using? Is it Patriot PC2-6400 2x1GB 4-4-4-12 LLK sticks? If so I've had my suspicions about those...

On my P5WD2-E they will error in MEMTEST at anything other than the 1:2 ratio @ PC2-6400. That meant trying to run say 266FSB 1:1 would error through the roof. 3:4 would work fine as longs as I kept them under 900ish MHZ. Anything faster i need 2.4Volts and super lax timings which wasnt worth it.

PDP rating them PC2-6400 @ 4-4-4-12 is a bit decieving I think.

Yeah i'm pretty sure those are them ( going to check in a few) they are pretty iffy which is why I ordered that team ram which will be here tomorrow hopefully.

I'm running 365 fsb, 1.425v set in bios 1:1 with 4-4-4-12 timings right now, perfectly stable. If i try 370 orthos errors unless I enable SPD, and then i can clock alot higher as well.

DaveB
08-24-06, 05:28 PM
Got it to 3.6 GHz after having dinner. It's set at 1.525V for 3.6 GHz, the 3.45 GHz was at a mere 1.425V.

http://i8.tinypic.com/25i15hk.jpg

sicloan
08-24-06, 06:13 PM
Yeah i just checked and they are the PC-6400 4-4-4-12 LLK sticks. Good thing I got them for pretty cheap becuase I dont think they clock that well.

400x9 again, Pumped more voltage and was able to get it orthos stable for an hour so far.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=115013

edit:

Super PI 1M, 14.28 s

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2464/6600pict1.jpg

Illyest
08-24-06, 10:19 PM
Nice OC sicloan. Is that voltage on CPU-Z right? if so that's a GREAT OC /cheers.

edit: NVM I see you said you upped the voltage. Still, thats a really really nice OC :)

fritzman
08-24-06, 10:22 PM
Nice OC sicloan. Is that voltage on CPU-Z right? if so that's a GREAT OC /cheers.

edit: NVM I see you said you upped the voltage.

Cpuz seems to have a bother with these boards... vcore flips up and down from that reading to actual, and generally, when you first open cpuz, you get either a temp or fan warning pop up (and keep popping up)

BUT... you're right... that chip seems to be a bit of a gem!:beer: :beer:

sicloan
08-24-06, 10:42 PM
Yeah CPUZ is reading it wierd. This thing is perfectly stable at 400x9, i'm sure I can go higher. The board is limiting my timings with the SPD problem (might be ram also). I still have all the other voltages besides MCH on auto. I might try to mess with those voltages next, although i'm getting my new RAM tomorrow so this is probably it for the Patriot.

Oh and this chip can go higher, i know it can. My old 660 wouldnt go above 4.2 ghz no matter what I tried, kind of a shame too.

Rcmorr0924
08-25-06, 12:04 AM
Hey awesome oc, I have to have 1.475 in order to get mine stable at 3.2ghz, and at 1.55vs it wouldent even boot up at 3.6, It did 3.4 fine but wasent dual prime stable. I also have the oem version and it isnt that great :(

sicloan
08-26-06, 01:31 PM
Just an update on my progress. Before I wasnt stable at 370 with my old ram. Put in the new stuff (team xtreem) and now its perfectly stable @ 370 fsb.

fritzman
08-26-06, 03:18 PM
Sweet.

Have you tried exhausting the cpu... drop the Ram back to a lower ratio, and up the fsb another 1 or 2 at a time. Once you've got the cpu as high as poss... then go back and relax the ram timings, but get their ratio back up. From all I read... fsb is King with Conroes, closely followed by the ratio of the ram, as opposed to Cas/Ras, etc which seem to have a lesser effect if it means that by relaxing them, you get more fsb. (Hope that makes sense... I just got up!)

sicloan
08-26-06, 05:12 PM
Yeah i'm more limited by the board than anything at this point. Priming at 380 fsb right now, had to push vFSB to get it stable here. set 1.45v vcore in bios and actual is like 1.425v. Full load i'm seeing 55c on both cores.

I'm going 5-8 FSB increments and then dual priming for stability / checking temps. Its a slow process but worth it. I know I can drop it down to the previous stable clock and run it 24/7 if the temps dont look to bad so this is why i'm doing it like this.

sicloan
08-27-06, 12:54 AM
390 fsb... loosened the ram timings to get this stable but ill pump more voltage in the ram and see if i can tighten em down. I'm leaving for a few days so no more work can be done on this for awhile.

fritzman
08-27-06, 05:30 AM
Nice work! Interesting that you are getting such a high droop on the vcore. I've not seen that sort of drop mentioned before on the P5W-DH.