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NickLNitro
11-20-01, 12:58 PM
I have a cable modem and i already did a registry tweak to it...is there any other way i could make it faster? (not that it's slow)
flounder43
11-20-01, 01:12 PM
I got a major improvement from a patch that I downloaded from here...http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/cable_patches.shtml
Look for the "@Home patch".
It used to be officially supported by the @home cable people. Anyway, I went from .700-.800Mbps to 1.4Mbps. A nice improvement.
I have tried everything else with not much luck. But this patch really worked for me.
flounder43
11-20-01, 01:13 PM
BTW, you can test your speed at www.speedtest.net.
I just went there, and it is a little slow right now, but try it later and it will give you an idea of speed...
PolyPill
11-20-01, 01:29 PM
In my oppinion most cable tweak programs are full of crap. If it was that easy to get more bandwidth out of something this would be a standard.
Most just change your settings from automatic to a manual setting, which might not work with all cable providers and just cause problems.
If your speeds are slow complain to the man because if they actually care thats the only way to get real proformance upgrades.
flounder43
11-20-01, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by PolyPill
In my oppinion most cable tweak programs are full of crap. If it was that easy to get more bandwidth out of something this would be a standard.
Most just change your settings from automatic to a manual setting, which might not work with all cable providers and just cause problems.
If your speeds are slow complain to the man because if they actually care thats the only way to get real proformance upgrades.
Generally, I would agree with you. But this DID work for me. I tried it on three computers. I tested before and after. It nearly doubled my speed in all cases. My friend, on this board "fightingpiper" installed it too. Same result.
I am sorry, but this is the truth. I just went to speedtest.net, got 1.544Mbps. No way could I have gotten that before...
PolyPill
11-20-01, 02:24 PM
I'm pretty scepticle about a 1.5444mbps reading. Even on a non shared T1 you don't get the full use and on 10 or 100mbps lans you're not going to get the full use, I don't care what you do to the software it's just not going to happen.
I think the best thing you can do for your cable connection is to get the most shielded cable possible, also buying a $40 line amp at radio shack helps a lot. Signal strength is the largest lose of bandwidth, that and your stupid isp capping you.
Maybe Windows is put together so stupidly that doing crap like that actually works and brings it up to par with everyone else. All I know is there is no other OS where you can do anything like this to make your connection faster.
With this thinking why can't I make a modem twice as fast? They're both TCP/IP, they both come in PCI, once you're connected there is no difference to how your programs use the inet connection.
flounder43
11-20-01, 02:35 PM
Hold it right there. Are calling me a liar? I posted the screen cap for proof. It really isn't that fast...
What do you get at speedtest.net?
Let's keep things civil here.
flounder43
11-20-01, 02:38 PM
Here's another test...
NickLNitro
11-21-01, 10:10 AM
I just Tried that patch and it did absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by NickLNitro
I just Tried that patch and it did absolutely nothing.
You are one lucky individual! I wish I had know of this thread before you tried the tweaks available there, I tried their tweaks, and it gave me a 100% incentive to do a complete reinstall of my os! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: The fact that your system didn't get destroyed is, in my opinion based on my experiences, a miracle. Congratulations, your karmic lottery numbers came up.
flounder43
11-21-01, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by eobard
You are one lucky individual! I wish I had know of this thread before you tried the tweaks available there, I tried their tweaks, and it gave me a 100% incentive to do a complete reinstall of my os! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: The fact that your system didn't get destroyed is, in my opinion based on my experiences, a miracle. Congratulations, your karmic lottery numbers came up.
You are over-reacting. The particular patch that I was describing is an official release from @home. It even has an uninstaller. You can uninstall it if you so choose.
Jeez, I am sorry for your bad luck, eobard, and I am sorry it didn't work for you NickLNitro.
It did double my speed and did also for fightingpiper, you can pm him here and ask him.
BTW, I have the ATT@home service, so maybe that makes a difference.
flounder43
11-21-01, 10:44 AM
Ok, to prove myself, I did a little experiment. I did a before and after test on this new Duron system that I just got...
Here is before:
flounder43
11-21-01, 10:48 AM
As you will note from the above, the speed of the cable modem was .770Mbps and .776Mbps in two attempts, with different sized files.
Next I installed the above described Quest@home speed patch.
I rebooted, and did another speed test. As you can see, my speed more than doubled. This has worked for me every time.
NickLNitro
11-21-01, 11:06 AM
i dont have @ home service i have Time Warner Cable Road Runner maybe thats why the patch didn't work.
PolyPill
11-21-01, 12:13 PM
Like I said in my first post "Most just change your settings from automatic to a manual setting, which might not work with all cable providers and just cause problems."
Because it was put out by @Home, it sets the settings for optimal @Home use. Which makes it only work on @Home and by pure chance another cable company using the exact same setup.
If you install it on a non-@Home network then you'll eirther get no increase or mess everything up.
I'm not calling you a liar, I think you need to think about why this software would make you connection faster. Also web page speed tests aren't exactly scientific or very accurate. There are so many variables that need to be considdered that a generic one just doesn't cut it.
I still stand by the only ways to truely increase speed on a cable modem is to reduce signal lose.
-----EDIT-----
After running speedtest.net on my office T1 multiple times and on my home comp with a cable connection a few times. Using different settings and doing repeats I find it to be very unreliable. On smaller files the speed is a lot slower, running multiple times I get different readings not just a little off, some are very very far apart, and it says my home connection is faster than my office. I have to say that after using both daily, even at peak traffic times, my office is a lot faster than my home.
flounder43
11-21-01, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by NickLNitro
i dont have @ home service i have Time Warner Cable Road Runner maybe thats why the patch didn't work.
What speed do you typically get?
I agree, that it might be the fact that I have the @home service, as does my friend who lives in St. Paul.
Anyway, if it didn't work, you can uninstall is. It is kinda nice that way...
flounder43
11-21-01, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by PolyPill
Like I said in my first post "Most just change your settings from automatic to a manual setting, which might not work with all cable providers and just cause problems."
Because it was put out by @Home, it sets the settings for optimal @Home use. Which makes it only work on @Home and by pure chance another cable company using the exact same setup.
If you install it on a non-@Home network then you'll eirther get no increase or mess everything up.
I'm not calling you a liar, I think you need to think about why this software would make you connection faster. Also web page speed tests aren't exactly scientific or very accurate. There are so many variables that need to be considdered that a generic one just doesn't cut it.
I still stand by the only ways to truely increase speed on a cable modem is to reduce signal lose.
-----EDIT-----
After running speedtest.net on my office T1 multiple times and on my home comp with a cable connection a few times. Using different settings and doing repeats I find it to be very unreliable. On smaller files the speed is a lot slower, running multiple times I get different readings not just a little off, some are very very far apart, and it says my home connection is faster than my office. I have to say that after using both daily, even at peak traffic times, my office is a lot faster than my home.
I have been trying to think about why it works, and I just don't know. The only identifiable change that I have heard of is that the "DefaultRcvWindow" in the registry is changed to "373360". It just seems nonsensical. But it works for me, and it is very noticeable.
Also, with regard to speedtest, I agree that it is not perfectly accurate, but it is one of the better pages that I have found. Also, it gives me a baseline upon which to do comparisons. With regard to the smaller files being slower, etc, I have found that you need to do a good sized file, 200 or 500K to get an accurate, reproducable test. That way, any speed changes during the transfer are balanced out. Ideally, 1 meg gives a good picture.
The fact is, I rarely can get all of that speed when downloading anything anyway. However, the other day, I DID when I was dloading a 80Meg game demo. It averaged just over 1.4mbps. That was nice...:cool:
Originally posted by flounder43
You are over-reacting. The particular patch that I was describing is an official release from @home. It even has an uninstaller. You can uninstall it if you so choose.
The paricular patches I used were tailor made for my service and os, and I installed them following all of the recommended safety procedures, makeing all of the relavent backups along the way, and after finding that the patches decimated my ability to use my computer to connect to the internet I de-installed them in the official proscribed manner, it did nothing! Under those circumstances I think 5 angry smilies isn't an over-reaction.
flounder43
11-21-01, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by eobard
The paricular patches I used were tailor made for my service and os, and I installed them following all of the recommended safety procedures, makeing all of the relavent backups along the way, and after finding that the patches decimated my ability to use my computer to connect to the internet I de-installed them in the official proscribed manner, it did nothing! Under those circumstances I think 5 angry smilies isn't an over-reaction.
Well, I wasn't talking about "particular patches", I was talking about one specifically. The Quest@home patch. Is that the one you used? I wouldn't touch most of those crazy hacks. But this one in particular seemed, and indeed was, reliable.:burn:
Originally posted by PolyPill
I'm pretty scepticle about a 1.5444mbps reading. Even on a non shared T1 you don't get the full use and on 10 or 100mbps lans you're not going to get the full use, I don't care what you do to the software it's just not going to happen.
I think the best thing you can do for your cable connection is to get the most shielded cable possible, also buying a $40 line amp at radio shack helps a lot. Signal strength is the largest lose of bandwidth, that and your stupid isp capping you.
Maybe Windows is put together so stupidly that doing crap like that actually works and brings it up to par with everyone else. All I know is there is no other OS where you can do anything like this to make your connection faster.
With this thinking why can't I make a modem twice as fast? They're both TCP/IP, they both come in PCI, once you're connected there is no difference to how your programs use the inet connection.
PolyPill, Do you have a catalog part # for that Line Amp? Also, Where would I check for that type of cable? Thanks
flounder43
11-21-01, 07:29 PM
By way of information, I would tell you that if you have a motorola surfboard, you can check your signal strength and other things here:
http://192.168.100.1/startup.html
And, a very informative resource:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips.html#revtrace
My signal strength is: 7 dBmV. A little low, I think, but good enough. My cable guy said he had other customers with a lot higher sig levels...
Cool, thanks Flounder!:) I'll check them out!
Warlord2
11-21-01, 08:11 PM
I think the best thing you can do for your cable connection is to get the most shielded cable possible, also buying a $40 line amp at radio shack helps a lot. Signal strength is the largest lose of bandwidth, that and your stupid isp capping you.
where do you put the AMP?
where the cable just enters the house (side of most houses)
or anywhere before your cable modem?
NickLNitro
11-21-01, 08:58 PM
would there be any cheaper line amps that i could plug in right next to me cable modem?
Fightingpiper
11-21-01, 09:36 PM
Yep, what Flounder said. I installed the patch on four computers in my house and it more than doubled the download on each one. 500k62 laptop, 300k62, 800 duron, and my 1800XP. Again this was done using the speedtest.net benchmark. I can't attest to the accuracy of the benchmark but I did notice a difference on everyone of my machines after I installed the patch.
Cheers
flounder43
11-21-01, 10:46 PM
fightingpiper speakes the truth... Thanks for that.
I am sorry that people have had problems with trying to increase their cable modem speed. I do not support anything other than what I used. Namely, a patch called the @home that worked for me and fightingpiper. We both have ATT@home. I am only trying to help, and I think that it is unfair to criticize all cable modem patches. I am happy with my new found speed increase, as is "fightingpiper". I just wanted to help...
flounder43
11-21-01, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by JAWS
Cool, thanks Flounder!:) I'll check them out!
Great, happy I could help...
Do me a favor and post you signal strength, if you can get it, here...
Thanks
The registry tweaks can and do help for some people. They've helped me and I'm not talking about with web pages. Most pages load very quickly anyway and when they don't it's usually on their end. Before I tweaked the registry the best I could get was about 800kbps and now I'm getting an average of about 1600-2000 kbps and that speed depends almost entirely on the server and its location. We're talking clocked 50-100MB files in 5-12 minutes, not 500K which can zip through in a few bursts. I don't know about the compatibility with other cable systems. I only know about my box and my connection, but it did work for me.
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