View Full Version : i got my new waterblock, rad etc..
Dissolved
11-21-01, 11:47 AM
here's what i got.. i need to go to home depot to get clamps and such, and i might buy a mini freg to cool to rad, instead of fans. anyone tested this theroy?
Dissolved
11-21-01, 11:48 AM
nice almost prue mirror finish.
Dissolved
11-21-01, 11:49 AM
and the rad, im gonna use.
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 12:06 PM
Fridges don't work for cooling comps - they overheat their compressor and die. Apparently if you tear the compressor out and use it separately with better ventilation it'll run fine, no one I know of has tested this.
Dissolved
11-21-01, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Fridges don't work for cooling comps - they overheat their compressor and die. Apparently if you tear the compressor out and use it separately with better ventilation it'll run fine, no one I know of has tested this.
oh no.. i was saying that id put just the rad in the mini freg. what about that? maybe the res/pump too.
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 12:25 PM
Rad in fridge is same principle - you're dumping the bulk of the heat in there. The problem is fridges aren't designed for active heat laods - anything like a rad etc in the fridge will cause it to work all the time, and burn out it's compressor.
Dissolved
11-21-01, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Rad in fridge is same principle - you're dumping the bulk of the heat in there. The problem is fridges aren't designed for active heat laods - anything like a rad etc in the fridge will cause it to work all the time, and burn out it's compressor.
rad's dont get that hot..
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Dissolved
rad's dont get that hot..
Even a comparitively cool cpu could dump a continual 50W into the fridge, this is not small given that the usual load of a fridge is just from leakage which is a very small amount. The problem isn't the temperature of the rad it's that the heat is being continually dumped in there. If you put a plate of warm food in the fridge then it starts to cool, once cool it's no longer heating the fridge. A rad would never cool as it's being continually warmed by the cpu.
Dissolved
11-21-01, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Even a comparitively cool cpu could dump a continual 50W into the fridge, this is not small given that the usual load of a fridge is just from leakage which is a very small amount. The problem isn't the temperature of the rad it's that the heat is being continually dumped in there. If you put a plate of warm food in the fridge then it starts to cool, once cool it's no longer heating the fridge. A rad would never cool as it's being continually warmed by the cpu.
i get the idea, but what could i add to my watercooling set to get near ambient temps without fans? i Hate fans. im just gonna run clear fans in my case after i install my water cooling. i may 7v mod them also. thanks for any help.
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 12:46 PM
7V fans if you want quiet, also if you had a rad in a fridge you'd need fans on that, and a fridge is louder than fans anyway. :)
Originally posted by ButcherUK
Fridges don't work for cooling comps - they overheat their compressor and die. Apparently if you tear the compressor out and use it separately with better ventilation it'll run fine, no one I know of has tested this.
Ooh, I have a mini freezer I don't need any more. It is so small that it could probably only fit like 6x6packs of soda or something about that size in it. So, in principle, If I can keep the compressor cooled enough, I could use it to actively cool my computer?
I had been thinking about that for a while. Perhaps even completely sealing my computer and just letting the same refrigerated air flow throughout it.
Dissolved
11-21-01, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Krusty
Ooh, I have a mini freezer I don't need any more. It is so small that it could probably only fit like 6x6packs of soda or something about that size in it. So, in principle, If I can keep the compressor cooled enough, I could use it to actively cool my computer?
I had been thinking about that for a while. Perhaps even completely sealing my computer and just letting the same refrigerated air flow throughout it.
well like that uk guy told me, a mini freg wouldnt cool a pc.. thats too much heat in the fregerator.. i think a rad would be fine.. but id invest in watercooling. it only cost me 150 bucks for a block, 15' of tubeing, a rad & a 300gph pump.
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 04:12 PM
krusty: in theory, I'm not sure on the specifics of the compressors used in fridges. :)
You'd probably be better off just tearing out the compressor / condenser assembly and making an evaporator block to cool your cpu directly - get better temps that way. Be careful though, most fridges run on R134 freon, not very nice stuff.
Originally posted by ButcherUK
krusty: in theory, I'm not sure on the specifics of the compressors used in fridges. :)
You'd probably be better off just tearing out the compressor / condenser assembly and making an evaporator block to cool your cpu directly - get better temps that way. Be careful though, most fridges run on R134 freon, not very nice stuff.
I was thinking more along the lines of tearing out the compressor and using it to cool the radiator air, which will cool a water block, which is cooling a peltier...
Anyone know how I would make an evaporator block and how much it takes to make one that keeps temps really friggin cold? (under 10c)
Dissolved
11-21-01, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Krusty
I was thinking more along the lines of tearing out the compressor and using it to cool the radiator air, which will cool a water block, which is cooling a peltier...
Anyone know how I would make an evaporator block and how much it takes to make one that keeps temps really friggin cold? (under 10c)
just buy a vaporchill case.
ButcherUK
11-21-01, 06:55 PM
Cooling the air is a bad idea, it won't work well.
A better plan is to directly chill the water or cool the die directly.
Originally posted by Dissolved
just buy a vaporchill case.
Sure thing! Just give me 600 bucks and I'll be on my way.
My idea was that I have a 120mm front intake that also has a radiator on it. I thought If I could send air in that has passed through the refrigerant coils, then the radiator coils, it would help cool the water a bit more and help cool my case a bit more.
It would be nice to find an evaporator block that could really effectively cool my cpu. I saw one a while back that cools slightly worse than water. I want better than water.
Originally posted by Krusty
Sure thing! Just give me 600 bucks and I'll be on my way.
600 bucks really! Where did you find a price on the case alone? I've seen Vapochill sytems for like 3G but I didnt see the case sold seperatly. I wont spend 600 bucks for the case but I still want to check it out.
The case cost $700 not $600. Its great and is very effective but it has killed three of my athlons so far from chipping the cores. The evaporater is a bitch to put on. Im so scared to hill another athlon that im not even using the dam thing right now. It sittin in the corner of my room. www.vapochill.com has more info.
The Overclocker
11-22-01, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by mEKbOY
The case cost $700 not $600. Its great and is very effective but it has killed three of my athlons so far from chipping the cores. The evaporater is a bitch to put on. Im so scared to hill another athlon that im not even using the dam thing right now. It sittin in the corner of my room. www.vapochill.com has more info.
i hope you have been using a shim
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