some help for a newbie :D

[Sonik21]

hey guys/girls im new to overclocking and would like to get more out of my chip but i have no idea where to start so if anyone could help me out that would be great :D heres what im runing as far as my chip and motherboard:

AMD Athlon 1ghz

Asus A7S-LE

AMD 750 Chipset


how would i go about getting the most out of this chip ???

[minoukat]

is it the Slot A package or the Socket A ? if you have the slot a, I'm not positive, but I think you'll have to get a gold finger device (GDF)

[flounder43]

I don't have any specific experience with that mobo, but you can read some general info here: http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index04.asp#BEGINNER GUIDES

Also, you can do a search in the forums for that specific model number.

And, also, Welcome to the O/C Forum!

[Sonik21]

im pretty sure its a Socket A board but im not sure how would i go about finding that out with taking apart my case to check ?

btw thanks for the replies :D

[minoukat]

Download WCPUID, it will tell you if it's a socket or a Slot

www.h-oda.com

[Sonik21]

well im luck i already had the program installed on my machine and it is a Socket A board but along side of it said Socket 462 is that the same or something else ??? im reading the behinners guide but it seems a bit confusing.

[minoukat]

The name is Socket A, but more technically it's sometimes called Socket 462, cuz it has 462 pins (if I'm not wroong)

[flounder43]

I can't find any info on that mobo at the asus site. Is it, by any chance, in a sony vaio computer?

[Sonik21]

you would be correct flounder it is a vaio pcv-rx 450 sorry if im being a little troublsome here thanks for the help though i really appreciate it

[minoukat]

Tough thing about OEMs (Sony, Compaq, Dell, HP, ...) is that they take off all OCing possibilities : they modify the BIOS, so there aren't any OCing options, they take off all useful jumpers, ...

[Sonik21]

so basically theres no chance of OC'ing my machine at all ?

[flounder43]

No trouble. The only problem is that many times it is harder to do an overclock on a retail computer, and it is definately harder to find information on how to do it...

My guess is the bios does not offer many options...

It is possible that your motherboard would have the option to change the fsb with jumpers, or even possibly the multiplier.

If you have a 1.0 Ghz Athlon, that means that either your front side bus (fsb) is 100 and your multiplier is 10 (10X100=1000) or your fsb is 133 and your multiplier is 7.5 (7.5X133=1000).

If you have the 100 fsb, you might be able to try the 133 with a jumper, if you can figure out which one...

If it is the 133 fsb option, well then, you probably cannot do anything higher with the fsb...just an educated guess.

In that case your option would be to try the multiplier, by bumping it up to 10.5 (in the case of the 100 fsb) or 8.0 (in the case of the 133 fsb) and maybe higher...Once again, only if you can find those jumpers.

Anyway, look through the bios and see if you can find any options, and if not, it means cracking open your case and doing some research...

[Sonik21]

ok but what if its a 200mhz FSB wich is what i have does that throw it off at all from what you just described ?? i would imagine the higher the bus speed the lower the multiplier would be am i worng on this?

[flounder43]

Originally posted by Sonik21
ok but what if its a 200mhz FSB wich is what i have does that throw it off at all from you just described ??

Athlons run at either 100 or 133. If you see 200, then that is just 2 times 100, which is the resulting bus speed after being doubled...sorry I left that out... 133 would give you 266, etc...

[Sonik21]

ok this was taken from WCPUID so if im correct even though it says my FSB is 200mhz in reality its only 100mhz with the 10 multiplier from your last post flounder if it was really 200mhz then 10x200 would be 2000 but below its only 1000 so the system bus is determind by the system clock speed after its doubled am i correct ?

Processor #1 : AMD Athlon (Model 4) / C81D67E4
Platform : Socket A (Socket 462)
Vendor String : AuthenticAMD
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (7)
Model : 4 (4)
Stepping ID : 4 (4)
Brand : ----
APIC : ----
Name String : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor

Internal Clock : 1002.27 MHz
System Bus : 200.45 MHz DDR
System Clock : 100.23 MHz
Multiplier : 10.0

L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 1002.27 MHz (Full)

MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Not Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Supported
3DNow! Unit : Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Supported

Host Bridge : 1039:0730.02 [SiS 730x]
South Bridge : 1039:0008.00 [SiS 5595]
VGA Device : 1002:5144.00 [ATI RADEON]
Memory Size : 384M Byte
Memory Clock : ----