Motive for joining Intel's force

[!!tio!!]

Why do you joined intel force and not AMD?
because of P3 or ....P4??

[batboy]

Actually, I've been an Intel guy since the early 90's when I bought my first 386 25 MHz. Since then I've had 486 50 MHz, P-1 100 MHz, P-II 233 MHz, Celeron 300A, Celeron 566, P-III 700, and now looking to buy a P-4 1.5 gig soon. These have been my primary machines, I've had lots more that have come and gone that I got given to me or bought for little of nothing, used for parts and/or recycled and sold. I've even had a couple AMDs too.

[Allan Nielsen]

I have had nothing but good experience with intel computers, why change over? Like batboy, I've had lots of computers, no intel machine has ever died out on me yet.

It isn't about joining a force, its not about supporting a big time corporation like intel or AMD, its about going with whatever you feel most comfortable with.

Some fine day I'll probably buy an AMD system, but I will not be because people tell me to buy it, and if I were to upgrade today I would go with a Tualatin Celeron 1.2 because of the price for an upgrade.

Oh yeah, you prolly don't know me but I have a P3-700@1001.

[Turbo]

Oh dear, it's going to be a long list. I've been a hardware enthusiast for years. I never did overclock my Commodore64 though :D I've had Intel cpu's and Intel MB's in my systmes since my first PC. As far as I remember the list is like 8086@10 Mhz, 386sx-25Mhz (afair), 486-33, 486-100@133, P133@166, P200MMX@225,celeron 300A@450, PIII450@560 (katmai), PIII600E@840, PIII 1 Ghz@1125, P4 1.7@2.1 and a P4 1.5@2.0. I've also had an AMD K6-233 and an AMD K6-2 266. None of my Intel machines ever caused me any major grief, both my AMD systems did. Unless Intel goes broke or AMD is more than twice as fast as any Intel offering, I'll stay with Intel. And I'm really looking forward to the Northwood, which will likely be my next cpu.

[Allan Nielsen]

Originally posted by Turbo
Oh dear, it's going to be a long list. I've been a hardware enthusiast for years. I never did overclock my Commodore64 though :D I've had Intel cpu's and Intel MB's in my systmes since my first PC. As far as I remember the list is like 8086@10 Mhz, 386sx-25Mhz (afair), 486-33, 486-100@133, P133@166, P200MMX@225,celeron 300A@450, PIII450@560 (katmai), PIII600E@840, PIII 1 Ghz@1125, P4 1.7@2.1 and a P4 1.5@2.0. I've also had an AMD K6-233 and an AMD K6-2 266. None of my Intel machines ever caused me any major grief, both my AMD systems did. Unless Intel goes broke or AMD is more than twice as fast as any Intel offering, I'll stay with Intel. And I'm really looking forward to the Northwood, which will likely be my next cpu.

Woohoo, another Dane in the forums! And an intel guy even! :)
I'm impressed!

[Turbo]

Originally posted by Allan Nielsen


Woohoo, another Dane in the forums! And an intel guy even! :)
I'm impressed!

Likewise. You know, for a while now I've been thinking I was the only one :p

Try to get anybody to discuss P4 tweaking on any Danish site and you immediately get flamed by at least 100 AMD freaks :D Nah, I like it much better here.

[funnyperson1]

Well i didnt really care about what was in my computer until before last summer when i started overclocking, but my dad has been a computer buff ever since the 386 days, and i cant remember one non-intel chip that he has bought, back when he got his PIII-450, the only competition was the K6-III which most people know that whne comapred was crap.....then a couple months later when he got me my PIII-600E the PIIIs were competing with the early Athlons which were almost on the same level, but we went intel because of the high qulaity and stability, just recently i gave him a choice of getting an Athlon1660+ with DDR,with K7S5a, and a new PSU or getting a celeron 1.2 with sdr and a BD133U , and he said he wanted to build the celeron system (mostly because he didnt want to have to buy an extra PSU) and i liked that because i knwew he would prefer the stability and the low noise fan (12dollar VolcanoII) and i would have lots of fun overclocking this .13 micron beast.....now since the BD133U turned out to be a peice of **** and wont boot up with the tualatiin (onyl with cumines( well probably get a Celly 800 or so, and an ST6 to house the Tualatin and use the Iwill board with the 800...so well be intel fans for a long time, we also have a couple 486s, 4-5 P-1s, 4 P2s....(my dad has his own company)....and weve been very happy, and when the northwoods comep out and we want to upgrade in a year or two well proably go with a P4/DDR because of the Quality and low h4eat and other things....

[Dark Illusion]

Actually I've been indifferent up until the 7/11 incident. The fact Intel went to help right away while AMD acknowledged it after a while it tipped me over. Also, there's no chipset like the BX. From Celeron to PIII=) Celly-T w/ the powerleap convertor.

Then there's VIA..I don't like via's and their 4-in-1's. Caused me a lotta trouble. Don't like how AMD barely supports their own chip.

[Allan Nielsen]

Originally posted by Turbo


Likewise. You know, for a while now I've been thinking I was the only one :p

Try to get anybody to discuss P4 tweaking on any Danish site and you immediately get flamed by at least 100 AMD freaks :D Nah, I like it much better here.

Oh no, there are at least 3 Danish senior members here, and some 'normal' members as well. The seniors are Walter, Brint and myself.

You can't turn anywhere if you have intel, as there will always be AMD people telling you to buy an Athlon or Palomino or whatever. I dunno why they can't accept our choices.

I bet intel people weren't much better in the early days though.

[jstnomega]

"Why do you joined intel force" - Because of Intel chipsets.

"and not AMD?" - Because of lack of AMD chipset support & dislike of VIA, ALi, SiS, & nVidia chipsets.

"because of P3 or ....P4" - No. Since 386 days. An Athlon 700 along the way, but once was enough. For me, it's not a cpu thing, it's a chipset thing. Intel = set it & forget it.

[Mike360000]

Well I guess i'll put in my .02 worth.

Actually I can agree with every post here, as to why I stick with Intel. I've been into computers since about 1982, and building some of my own since about 1990.

In the mid 90's I got ticked at Intel for being so biased and charging ridiculas prices, and for being what I consider, being a bully.

I went to AMD and built several K6-2 systems. I had very mixed results. Some were ok, some weren't. 50/50. At the end, my last AMD I ran for any time, below, I was pulling my hair out!

In 1999 I special ordered a K6-3, the supposed P3 killer. Well it was as fast as they claimed. I could outbench an equal clocked P3, but as a few has stated, it isn't a AMD thing it's a chipset thing. That was the absolute sorriest Via chipset I ever saw!(It might have been a Ali, I can't remember, but I had much trouble out of both makes.) You name it, I had it, concerning problems. Much too long too write, but I simply went back to Intel and learned how to build and oc the P3s. And I've never looked back.

I do believe AMD has an excellent cpu in the Athlon series, but I'll tell you'all like I've said to so many others. You can take a poor to fair cpu and put it on a real good motherboard/chipset and you will have a decent system, but you can take the very best and fastest cpu there is, and put it on a lousy motherboard, and you will still have a lousy system! No matter how you cut it!

As another poster said above, with Intel, you set your mobo/BIOS and forget it! That is so true!

Cheers,
Mike Lamb

[jazztrumpet216]

I really don't think there's a force involved with AMD vs. Intel, unless we're going to war over it or something. And if we were, I'd feel sorry for the moderators....

I've never owned an AMD systems, but I have friends and relatives that do. My grandparents own a K6-2, which is the AMD system I troubleshoot the most, which is relatively frequently. I think there is a lack of reliability involved with AMD, and I prefer to have a bit more stability in my CPU than to get a space heater. The excess heat and the lack of chipset support is what kills AMD in this aspect... Intel makes chipsets for their CPUs, and ones that work at that. I use two... the i815EP and the i850. I've seen some serious problems with AMD systems that I've never seen in my years with Intel computers... since I was 6 and we got our first 486 25Mhz system... which we still have, by the way (so I suppose that's the processor I joined the Intel "force" for, long before the Pentium 1 ever existed, much less the Pentium 3 or 4). Because of those problems... the thought of switching to AMD has never really been an issue for me. Speed is nothing if your comp crashes in 20 minutes due to heat.

[TC]

Why do you continue to post threads that invite arguments and anger among forum members?

[Allan Nielsen]

Originally posted by TC
Why do you continue to post threads that invite arguments and anger among forum members?

Good point actually. This thread should be heading over to debates.

[Mike360000]

"Originally posted by TC
Why do you continue to post threads that invite arguments and anger among forum members?
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Good point actually. This thread should be heading over to debates."


Actually I didn't take the thread as debateable. I simply took it as people stating their reasons for going or staying Intel.

If anyone turns the thread into a debate, it will be the AMD diehards who doesn't like the reasons people has stated above!

As for AMD, I think they're a good cpu. I would like to be able to use one with the confidence as I do Intel. So if anyone likes AMD, I say more power to them, and I am really glad they are happy with what they have. And being happy with what you have is the best satisfaction of all, no matter what you use!

Cheers,
Mike Lamb

[Sir-Epix]

Because it is what I started with, and what I know. Their CPU's have never let me done, so I keep going back. I know they are most expensive, but I don't mind because they do make a descent chip...would want to try Crusoe processor though!