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ares350
09-12-06, 10:52 AM
I know people have done it. I recall seeing it. Im just wanting to know how it performed.

horizontal acrylic "case" with a removable sealed top. drop the mobo in it, and all the other stuff that goes on it.

aim a power head at the CPU and GPU, as well as perhaps 1 or 2 more for general circulation to be sure nothing is left to roast in stagnant oil.

circulate it up to a radiator that rests with the rest of the non cooled stuff(hard drives, cdrom, ect)

little cabinet of sorts.

just run all the wires right up out the top of the oil bath through a hole in the top.

nothing scientificly mind boggling here. Im just asking, does it work? or is this all hassle without the payoff?

my expectations, near ambient temps, little noise, a nice discussion starter in the office, and most of all, instant exceptional water cooling for everything, and all future components, without worrying about expensive water blocks for every new peice of hardware. should be able to liquid cool every upgrade I get for the next 20 years, right?

CGR
09-12-06, 11:33 AM
I assume you are talking about filling the case with oil?

If thats the case its not worth it imo.

You would need more than an average pump to move the oil. Its not like water its thicker and generally not easy to pump. Not to mention the mess that could happen if a leak came about.

four4875
09-12-06, 11:44 AM
ive never seen it done to anything faster than a 486, so im not sure how well it would take to a huge heat load. although theo ne i seen didnt have a rad, just used it's mass to dissipate it i think.

Just Some Dude
09-12-06, 12:11 PM
I read that the oil eventually works itself into the capacitors on the MB.

dicecca112
09-12-06, 02:05 PM
ive never seen it done to anything faster than a 486, so im not sure how well it would take to a huge heat load. although theo ne i seen didnt have a rad, just used it's mass to dissipate it i think.

Tom's did the oil, I think it was on an AMD FX chip

damarble
09-12-06, 02:17 PM
I read that the oil eventually works itself into the capacitors on the MB.

I too have seen something along those lines. Anything that could soak up the oil would have to be sealed, and still it's not a great long term solution.

But in theory it should have the very best possible temps of any other cooling method, other than sub-ambient.

Captain Slug
09-12-06, 02:56 PM
Oils degrade rubber. So if you were to look into submersion cooling you would need a motherboard with nothing but solid capacitors (which are now becoming available through certain manufacturers). Or you have to replace all of the regular kind ones on your motherboard with solid capacitors.
Standard capacitors have a rubber cap on the underside that holds the leads in place. Mineral Oil (what is typically used for submersion cooling) will degrade that rubber seal and eventually the capacitors will free them selves from their leads and they'll float to the surface of the tank. Or they will swell and burst.

flamerail
09-14-06, 11:28 AM
Tom's did the oil, I think it was on an AMD FX chip

FX55 and passed 3dmark 05 several times without any problems. :)

Quailane
09-14-06, 12:32 PM
I know some company makes the supercomputer submersion fluid. 3m maybe? That is made to have electronics soak in it. You wouldn't need to take precautions like you would with oil.

eobard
09-14-06, 01:21 PM
I know some company makes the supercomputer submersion fluid. 3m maybe? That is made to have electronics soak in it. You wouldn't need to take precautions like you would with oil.
Fluorinert. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorinert)

Sleepy_Steve
09-14-06, 10:49 PM
The stuff is good... good enough to be what filled the cores of the crey supper computers.

I have heard a lot of people think about it for desktops... but the sheer cost of the stuff $75 per liter if i remember right, generaly makes it so that no one ever uses the stuff. (i think one of the hardware review sites may have done sometihng with it but thats all ive ever heard of)

four4875
09-15-06, 02:37 PM
i remember techtv (Was it zdtv still then?) did somethin with it and an athlon, and DI to cool it. i remember they showed the cpu core boiling it, so to fix it they put in a pump with a jet shootin at the core. been a while ago tho, and i remember them sayin somethin about a cold bug lol.

Sleepy_Steve
09-18-06, 07:45 AM
Ahh, the loss of that channel still makes me sad.
**** YOU G4!!!

That sounds neat, i wish i had been watching it back then, but i beilve it was before my time lol.

GOD Macktruck
10-03-06, 02:59 PM
with anything modern you would need another loop for water cooling going to the CPU, and maybe the northbridge, and videocard.

so your looking 2 pumps. one large seals resevoir, one small water resevoir. 2 radiators, a few other things

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LiveSideways
10-06-06, 11:49 AM
http://www4.tomshardware.com/images/thg_video_18_oil_cooled_pc_divx.zip

http://www.tomshardware.com/site/videos/images/vid19.jpg

Blind Tree Frog
10-10-06, 03:34 PM
with anything modern you would need another loop for water cooling going to the CPU, and maybe the northbridge, and videocard.

so your looking 2 pumps. one large seals resevoir, one small water resevoir. 2 radiators, a few other things

: ) :
Why? You cool the oil and keep it at a stable/cool temperature.

Unless you are saying that water has better heat transfer characteristics then the oil and that it will cool better. In which case, what's the point of putting it in the oil anyhow?

GOD Macktruck
10-24-06, 08:13 AM
the oil cant move large amounts of heat fast enough. the point of the oil is to cool everything that watercooling usually doesn't effect, mosfets, southbridge, the entire motherboard. but the heat output of videocards, northbridge, and processor are to great for the oil to handle itself.

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ArgusII
11-03-06, 09:31 PM
Oil would not absorb the heat fast enough. You would do better with a noncondutive liquid which would be circulated accross the components. If this could be done you could drop the temp well below freezing. No need to worry about condensation.

Neuromancer
11-03-06, 09:53 PM
Ahh, the loss of that channel still makes me sad.
**** YOU G4!!!

That sounds neat, i wish i had been watching it back then, but i beilve it was before my time lol.

Its still on Satelliette (unless it disappeared since august)

(I think... maybe there is a nother computer Channel?)