Ok to run without a pin ?

[ZL1]

Guys, I need some advice. I broke a pin on a 3.2 northie :cry:, but the funny thing is, it still works. Its dual prime stable, memtest stable and 3dmark stable :)
Would you guys say its safe to run a 477p cpu ?

Also anyone know where I could find a pinout table for a s478 northie ? curious what that pin was supposed to do (besides its decorative properties :D)

Thanks in advance,
Dan

P.S. wire fix = no dice (I wont trust the contact)
solder fix = no dice (dont have the tools :( and prolly the skills :( )

[rainless]

Guys, I need some advice. I broke a pin on a 3.2 northie :cry:, but the funny thing is, it still works. Its dual prime stable, memtest stable and 3dmark stable :)
Would you guys say its safe to run a 477p cpu ?

Also anyone know where I could find a pinout table for a s478 northie ? curious what that pin was supposed to do (besides its decorative properties :D)

Thanks in advance,
Dan

P.S. wire fix = no dice (I wont trust the contact)
solder fix = no dice (dont have the tools :( and prolly the skills :( )

Well if it WORKS then what do you have to lose? Worse comes to worse it will STOP working. But until then, why worry about it?

[chas0039]

I know exactly how you feel. I just cannot leave a broken part alone without knowing exactly what I am missing. The pinout is here:

http://www.intel.com/design/pentium4/datashts/24988703.pdf

[batboy]

There are several pins that are not used or are just extra grounds etc.

[MadMan007]

I broke a pin off a Celeron 633 ages ago, I never bothered to look up what it does but it has always worked fine without the pin. So if it works then I say no problem ;)

[deathman20]

If it works it works. Expecially since if it didn't you'd be buying a new CPU. Either way until it dies I wouldn't worry about it, since its not an easy task to resoder a pin back onto the CPU. Thought someone had a service of doing that for a few bucks, if its important you might want to check that out.

[ShadowPho]

if it works then its probably extra power or ground pin. So you would be fine running without it.

[ZL1]

Thanks guys

I took a look at the pdf and I belive the pin is a VCC, not 100% though, because Im not sure Im reading the table right, no missing pins :confused:
anywho, do you guys say its ok to run without a VCC pin ?

[rainless]

Thanks guys

I took a look at the pdf and I belive the pin is a VCC, not 100% though, because Im not sure Im reading the table right, no missing pins :confused:
anywho, do you guys say its ok to run without a VCC pin ?

Once again... if it's WORKING, then you could run without HALF the damned pins. I mean if it was going to burn down your house then that would have happened as you typed the above post. I really can't imagine what you think it would do. It's not going to blow up... it's not going to melt... The worst I can think of is it would just stop working. I have a water block sitting on my CPU, and the very worse that could happen if I was missing a pin is NOTHING (then again I have a 775 chip, so if I was missing a pin it would just be on the mb...) :beer:

[telexen]

Once again... if it's WORKING, then you could run without HALF the damned pins.

Not possible. Nobody would create that poor of a design.

[rainless]

Not possible. Nobody would create that poor of a design.


Apparently you never used that old IBM desktop chip :)

What was the name of that thing... doesn't matter. This was in an age before CPU fans and the thing didn't even have a heatsink. Ran like a SPACEHEATER. And subsequently fused itself to my motherboard.

So when you think "nobody" think "IBM". :beer:

P.S. I hear they're doing WONDERS for Sony right now with their "1 out of 10 might work" Cell processor.

[OniKoroshi]

Apparently you never used that old IBM desktop chip :)


Hahaha I was thinking that right before I read your post.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Enjoy it and hope it lasts. :beer:

[noxqzs]

Apparently you never used that old IBM desktop chip :)

What was the name of that thing... doesn't matter. This was in an age before CPU fans and the thing didn't even have a heatsink. Ran like a SPACEHEATER. And subsequently fused itself to my motherboard.

So when you think "nobody" think "IBM". :beer:

P.S. I hear they're doing WONDERS for Sony right now with their "1 out of 10 might work" Cell processor.


I have been using micro processors since the 8086 era, and never remember them even remotely being space heaters. Even the 486DX2s required no more than a north bridge size heatskink. Which models in particular are you reffering to?

[rainless]

I have been using micro processors since the 8086 era, and never remember them even remotely being space heaters. Even the 486DX2s required no more than a north bridge size heatskink. Which models in particular are you reffering to?

Like I said it can't remember. But it was back when they had the first pentium chip, the first AMD chip, and IBM had a chip at that same time. I think the pentium was supposed to be a 166mhz chip so IBM had something that was called like the 166 Plus (+?). And it WAS a space heater. It was so remotely far from being anything BUT a space heater. That unit was eventiually replaced by my Pentium II 300 which, at the time, was night and day. I also had a 12 meg voodoo card over what I believe was a Matrox Mystique. (I got it because I really loved the name and the packaging.)

For a year or two you couldn't tell me ANYTHING. I could play absolutely everything at the highest resolution. I even had all the games because I worked for a game magazine at the time! But I was so busy with other parts of my life I didn't even open most of them (poor Tribes...)

Yup... I was the guy who, when faced with the decision of playing through a few hours of Myst and going after the girl who's legs he'd been staring at under the table for a whole year until she finally broke up with his close friend...

...reached for my coat.

[SeanBest]

Broken things that work are even better than things that aren't broken and work.

[xTrEmEoVrClOcKr]

I broke a pin on my 3.2E and it still worked perfectly (to my relief). It's currently running under RandyMan's eyes :D.

[the garynator]

<--- has a celeron 2.0ghz northy with two missing pins (guy who I got it from sucked at life when it came to hardware and somehow broke a pin off not once, but twice lol) that ran in my mom's computer @ 2.66ghz for about 2.5 years, ran in a folding rig @ 2.66ghz for about 8 months and still works fine.

So I'd say you should be fine and shouldn't worry about it, run it till it dies, not like you've got anything to lose as far as that goes :shrug:

[Tebore]

Like I said it can't remember. But it was back when they had the first pentium chip, the first AMD chip, and IBM had a chip at that same time. I think the pentium was supposed to be a 166mhz chip so IBM had something that was called like the 166 Plus (+?). And it WAS a space heater. It was so remotely far from being anything BUT a space heater. That unit was eventiually replaced by my Pentium II 300 which, at the time, was night and day. I also had a 12 meg voodoo card over what I believe was a Matrox Mystique. (I got it because I really loved the name and the packaging.)

For a year or two you couldn't tell me ANYTHING. I could play absolutely everything at the highest resolution. I even had all the games because I worked for a game magazine at the time! But I was so busy with other parts of my life I didn't even open most of them (poor Tribes...)

Yup... I was the guy who, when faced with the decision of playing through a few hours of Myst and going after the girl who's legs he'd been staring at under the table for a whole year until she finally broke up with his close friend...

...reached for my coat.

I believe you are refering to the 166 Cyrix processor that I think had MMX and it was terrible. When you thought AMD had terrible FPUs the Cyrix beat even that.

[schnikies79]

i lost a pin on a 486 once, it was a power pin of some sort (don't remember exactly, it's been a few years). anyway, I had a jewler solder a replacement on for a few dollars. worked fine after that.

the space between the pins was a lot larger durring those days than what they are now, so i dunno if it could still be done.

[rainless]

I believe you are refering to the 166 Cyrix processor that I think had MMX and it was terrible. When you thought AMD had terrible FPUs the Cyrix beat even that.


THAT's it! Thank you! I would have never remembered that hunk of s**t in a million years! MELTED ONTO THE MB! Years later I used a flathead screwdriver to pry the damned thing off! It was so bad... SO bad. Maybe I could have pried it off earlier and threw an actual pentium chip on it. It's all for the best though. I wound up getting a Pentium II 300 that's still running for my friend's wedding video business today.

But at the time I was ENRAAAAAAAGED!

[ZL1]

Thanks again guys, I guess I wont worry about it no more

by the way about the space heaters, yes IBM had the 586, but AMD had the K6 and Intel had the Prescott so it evens out IMO

Thanks
Dan