BestBuy security SUCKS..

[Adragontattoo]

Ok so I grabbed my roomie to go with me up to BB to get a cable modem and cause we are both intelligent enough to enjoy laughing at the prices for alot of BB comp parts.

After grabbing the Cable modem (roughly same cost as buying it online after shipping), we wandered over to games.

*side note*I used to work for BB as loss prevention and also in the precursor to the Geek Squad *end side note*

I ended up grabbing Neverwinter Nights Diamond for 19bucks and Fable for 29 (roomie said Fable was awesome)..

Wander around a bit more and then head home, immediately go over to the PC to install Fable and notice something is wrong here...

Game is already open.. CRAP

I proceed to check over the game and figure out that CD1 is missing, the game was open enough that the Serial was probably copied as well..

ARGH I HATE YOU THIEVES...

This BB is a joke, you cant get help unless you are on fire and trying to run out while carrying a TV.. In one 30 minute period in the store one day I found 7 Game cards for WoW that were stolen, I didnt work there at the time, and this was after 3 different employess had been through the same aisle..

The one time I forget to check over the software before buying it, I get burned and will now probably have to threaten to strangle the manager to get an exchange. (Having worked at BB before, I know that they are not going to believe me when I tell them that I bought it this way and I will probably have to theaten to dispute the charge before they will fix the issue)..

*stomps off to go sit back in traffic to drive back to BB to be accused of being a thief in some roundabout way*

[Vaio]

If they won't give you a refund, just set fire to the store in the laptop area. If anyone asks, a battery pack went into meltdown ;)

[dylskee]

If they won't give you a refund, just set fire to the store in the laptop area. If anyone asks, a battery pack went into meltdown ;)
LMAO!! Do they have Dells? :)

[Captain Helghas]

Serves you right for shopping there. I'm surprised you got out of there without purchasing a plasma TV and a new digital camera.

[Nathan0490]

LMAO!! Do they have Dells? :)

Sony's have had probs too with batts, pretty sure they have Sony Vaio Lappys :)

[tenchi86]

This happened to me with WoW. I bought a copy and the disk was gone. I went back and requested I trade it for another copy and eventually I was allowed. Amazing by feeling the wieght of the boxes, atleast 4 more were empty.

[Froggy]

Sony's have had probs too with batts, pretty sure they have Sony Vaio Lappys :)


All the Batts were made by Sony!

[Sk8erfreak986]

Sony didn't recall vaio's because of the battery problem.

[Ducatti]

Serves you right for shopping there. I'm surprised you got out of there without purchasing a plasma TV and a new digital camera.
Nice!

[r32speed]

I hate BB... I wish Frys was closer than 30mi away :(

[Adragontattoo]

Serves you right for shopping there. I'm surprised you got out of there without purchasing a plasma TV and a new digital camera.


Care to elaborate?

Anyways...


All fixed now, went in and immediately asked for a manager, when he tried saying they wouldnt refund it if the game was out of stock, I immediately asked for his manager. He then wanted to argue a bit and I just looked at him and told him that if I was going to steal the game, I wouldnt have come back and returned it, I would have done exactly what whoever did this did. I ended up taking him back there and showing him three other games that were in the same condition as this one. He didnt like that too much. Either way, I got it returned and he got to chew out his security folks for not doing there jobs AT ALL..

[cr4zym0nk3y]

Care to elaborate?

Anyways...


All fixed now, went in and immediately asked for a manager, when he tried saying they wouldnt refund it if the game was out of stock, I immediately asked for his manager. He then wanted to argue a bit and I just looked at him and told him that if I was going to steal the game, I wouldnt have come back and returned it, I would have done exactly what whoever did this did. I ended up taking him back there and showing him three other games that were in the same condition as this one. He didnt like that too much. Either way, I got it returned and he got to chew out his security folks for not doing there jobs AT ALL..

Nice:beer: I'm glad to see Best Buy employees get owned. I've had bad experiences with them, and they are now my least favorite electronics store.

[hyperasus]

LOL....I was recently told to leave my local BB for saying the F word to an employee. I live in Utah btw, aka, mormon country.

[r32speed]

LOL good for you! I hate fools that try to argue they are right when they are dead wrong.

[Captain Helghas]

Care to elaborate?

I was joking. Everytime I step into a BB for some reason, for instance last time I was buying season 1 of Girlmore Girls for my wife, then go looking about the store to see if there's anything affordable that catches my fancy, the BB salesmen always seem to try to sell me something hellishly expensive. Such as a plasma TV.

[SeasonalEclipse]

Luckily for me there is no BB or CC around here.. Just Walmart.. 2 walmarts with in a 10 mile distance from where I am.

[dicecca112]

too bad fable is a damn good game. I might actually reinstall and play it after I get my database homework done

[Adragontattoo]

Ill get Fable at some point, I need to pack first though, Im moving into my condo (rental unfortunately) next weekend

[A-Rapture]

Yeah I had this experience to but with xbox360 gamer cards.
I found like 3 different box's that had been slashed into and the gamer cards gone.
I dont know how people get the balls to steal stuff from there.
I would have a heart attack if I stold something and got caught infront of that many people.
Hence I am to chicken **** to attempt to steal anythinig from any where.

[Silversinksam]

You know, even though Best Buy security may be lax, the issue is not that Bestbuy security sucks, The issue is that the thief that stole the software or cd keys from BestBuy sucks.

[twEEkerAreUs]

Yeah I had this experience to but with xbox360 gamer cards.
I found like 3 different box's that had been slashed into and the gamer cards gone.
I dont know how people get the balls to steal stuff from there.
I would have a heart attack if I stold something and got caught infront of that many people.
Hence I am to chicken **** to attempt to steal anythinig from any where.

Same here, sad thing is though.....When I use to work at Circuit City years ago there was pretty much professional shop lifters that would hit the place up in rotations every week. Its almost like a full time job for them, especially when they make it out of the place with $1000's of dollars worth of stuff all while doing it right next to employees. Insane how good they were!

[rainless]

I LOVE BEST BUY! I can't stand to be in there for more than nine minutes, but it's wonderful! They're the most incompetent jackasses the world has ever known. I've never had any problems returning ANYTHING. I'm not a terribly big guy or anything, but when I get angry it's like a total eclipse. The sky just suddenly gets dark. When I'm faking it, that's scary enough, but when I'm ACTUALLY angry (which has more to do with the item that I wanted that they were trying to scew me on the price, or the item they didn't want to price match, or their Gamer's Discount Card that didn't work, than the store itself) they take a couple of steps back and give me whatever I want. It's really fun to see.

I started shopping at Best Buy around the time I stopped shopping at Electronics Boutique. My friend, who was the manager there, went corporate, and the one guy in the store I always hated was the only guy left, so they made him the manager. He was just an arrogant pr***... and half my size (which is not very huge at all), and after he made a comment that I did not receive very well I had to stop going there because things were going to get very, VERY ugly.

So the moral of this story is: Don't complain about Best Buy's incompetance... EXPLOIT IT! Get them to match clearance prices for small electronics stores going out of business in Debuke, Idaho. Print out Newegg prices on blank sections of your local newspaper and (if you have to) tell them Newegg is the new superstore that just opened up across the street from your penthouse. Tell them you're a lawyer... and a cop. Or that your name is Howard Leventhal with Best Buy Corporate and there have been a series of complaints and for the next six hours you will be taking over as store manager.

[HeatM1ser2k4]

So the moral of this story is: Don't complain about Best Buy's incompetance... EXPLOIT IT! Get them to match clearance prices for small electronics stores going out of business in Debuke, Idaho. Print out Newegg prices on blank sections of your local newspaper and (if you have to) tell them Newegg is the new superstore that just opened up across the street from your penthouse. Tell them you're a lawyer... and a cop. Or that your name is Howard Leventhal with Best Buy Corporate and there have been a series of complaints and for the next six hours you will be taking over as store manager.
I agree with expoiting a companies' weaknesses, but not by lying or deception.

[damarble]

Glad it worked out for you Adragontattoo. Usually being stubborn is all it takes, they will cave. ;)

Yeah I had this experience to but with xbox360 gamer cards.
I found like 3 different box's that had been slashed into and the gamer cards gone.
I dont know how people get the balls to steal stuff from there.
I would have a heart attack if I stold something and got caught infront of that many people.
Hence I am to chicken **** to attempt to steal anythinig from any where.

Being afraid of being caught should not be the reason for not stealing. :rolleyes:

[rainless]

I agree with expoiting a companies' weaknesses, but not by lying or deception.

You might... have noticed...

...that I was kidding.

[Captain Helghas]

Being afraid of being caught should not be the reason for not stealing. :rolleyes:
Motives shouldn't effect ethics.

[damarble]

Motives shouldn't effect ethics.

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not (or understood me). ;) I mean you need another reason (ethics, morals, etc) to be honest, not the the fear of being caught. He's pretty much admitting he would have no qualms stealing if there was no repercussions. :rolleyes:

[Captain Helghas]

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me or not (or understood me). ;) I mean you need another reason (ethics, morals, etc) to be honest, not the the fear of being caught. He's pretty much admitting he would have no qualms stealing if there was no repercussions. :rolleyes:
I was arguing ethics, to be honest, just to argue. I once took a religious ethics class where we looked at case studies and presented an arguement about whether deterent methods were becoming the reason for someone's ethical structure, or whether it was the reverse. The discussion eventually went to which one was "right." I think the aftermath of Katrina showed us that many people hold the belief that stealing is only wrong if you get caught.

[Adragontattoo]

You know, even though Best Buy security may be lax, the issue is not that Bestbuy security sucks, The issue is that the thief that stole the software or cd keys from BestBuy sucks.

Yes thieves suck, but the security folks at BB are paid to stop theft. If I can spend 30 minutes and find 6 different stolen products, they are not doing their jobs.

[Adragontattoo]

I was arguing ethics, to be honest, just to argue. I once took a religious ethics class where we looked at case studies and presented an arguement about whether deterent methods were becoming the reason for someone's ethical structure, or whether it was the reverse. The discussion eventually went to which one was "right." I think the aftermath of Katrina showed us that many people hold the belief that stealing is only wrong if you get caught.

kind of, people in certain economic stations feel entitled or owed.

The rich dont want the poor and such dirtying their neighborhoods and the poor feel that they deserve to be given things since the rich "can afford to share".

Meanwhile the "middle" class gets the worst of both sides

[damarble]

I was arguing ethics, to be honest, just to argue. I once took a religious ethics class where we looked at case studies and presented an arguement about whether deterent methods were becoming the reason for someone's ethical structure, or whether it was the reverse. The discussion eventually went to which one was "right." I think the aftermath of Katrina showed us that many people hold the belief that stealing is only wrong if you get caught.

I see. That does sound like a fun debate, but one that would end up ****ing my off. ;) My stance it that stealing is wrong, because you are harming another person. Even if it's a corporation, there are people that you are hurting by stealing.

How does one usually come into possession of an item? Through working for money and buying the item with that money, or some variation of that. So when you steal something you just cheated somebody out of a portion of their life.

[Captain Helghas]

Well I'll try to keep it kosher.

Here's where we agree then. You're stating that stealing is wrong. Thus our ethics agree. You shouldn't steal.

However, I don't think motives should effect ethics. Whether someone believes that it's wrong to steal because you could get caught, or because it would hurt someone else's livelihood, is of no concern when I decide whether it is wrong or right. Many people in America, and for that matter America's laws, believe that motive is very important in ethics. For instance, hate crimes are worse than normal crimes. And stealing food in a time of crisis is okay (Katrina,) but stealing televisions is not okay; based on necessity. However, a homeless man shouldn't steal food from a grocery store, despite the necessity. Considering motives gets really tricky.

So, I try to take the easy way out, and say that motives shouldn't effect ethics.

I hope that wasn't too antagonizing.

[Adragontattoo]

You may have misunderstood me. I dont disagree that motive should NOT effect ethics but it does in the RW unfortunately.

Most large corps. have a "golden parachute" for their upper management. Regardless of whether the company goes bust or that president gets fired, the upper echelon gets a nice fat check.(see Enron, HP,Adelphia,MCI) The lower folks on the totem pole get to deal with their retirement benefits possibly being null and void and their livelyhood being destroyed.

In a crisis (Katrina, EQ, Typhoon etc..) Stealing ANYTHING is not right. Whether you have to steal food to live or steal a TV because you can, it doesnt change that theft is theft is theft.(yes I meant that three times). Ahead of MOST natural disasters there is warning and the ability to evacuate (Obviously things like an EQ arent exactly predictable). Stealing food from the local grocery because you didnt want to leave and now have no food is not ok. Looting isnt either and people with money dont have to "share because they can afford it".

[OniKoroshi]

BB sucks. Thats all I have to say about that.

[Captain Helghas]

You may have misunderstood me. I dont disagree that motive should NOT effect ethics but it does in the RW unfortunately.

I took me like six times to read that line. :) It seems we agree then.

BB sucks. Thats all I have to say about that.
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[damarble]

So, I try to take the easy way out, and say that motives shouldn't effect ethics.



Now we're getting into questions that can't be fully answered. If motives shouldn't effect ethics, what should? You could say religion. But not everyone has the same beliefs. You could say human instinct. Again, not gonna fly, human are at their base instincts nothing more than agressive, even cruel, animals. Majority opinion? This is basicaly how ethics are decided today, if most people think something is right then it's considered ethical. Still not good, just because most people believe or don't believe something, doesn't mean I have to. Take abortion (I know I'm treading thin ice here). Is it unethical or not? How can you know? (Rhetoric questions, please don't answer them or this thread will be closed for sure.)

I don't have an answer, and I doubt anyone can.

[Maviryk]

What about Robin Hood?

It's all a matter of perspective. And ethics too.

Everything is absurd.

[Fireside85281]

What about Robin Hood?

It's all a matter of perspective. And ethics too.

Everything is absurd.

I wouldn't say there's a Robin Hood for an electronics store. Even if someone hates BB, there's never an excuse for stealing luxury items.

You don't really know the amount of theft there is in these types of stores. The hardest hit sections in my old store were media, printers, and vacuums (vacuums, mainly because it was out of sight). I don't recall the exact numbers, but I believe our store planned to lose over $160k last year. That's a load of money, and it's unbelievably easy to steal in a store. Even easier if you have a group of people helping you. Stores really can't stop theft when they have that many items and a far too low employee/customer ratio.

The original topic poster should have looked to see if the package was already opened though. When shopping for fruit, don't you always look for the one that's most ripe, or do you take the first thing you see? Or when buying a TV, don't you power the thing up in store and test it out? I would, so I save myself the hassle of returning a broken TV/spoiled food. I certainly won't buy media if it has been opened. And if it's the last media of that type, open it and check yourself. No need to cast blame on others for one's lack of shopping etiquette.

[Adragontattoo]

Like I said in my OP, the one time I didnt check I got burned...


I wouldn't say there's a Robin Hood for an electronics store. Even if someone hates BB, there's never an excuse for stealing luxury items.

You don't really know the amount of theft there is in these types of stores. The hardest hit sections in my old store were media, printers, and vacuums (vacuums, mainly because it was out of sight). I don't recall the exact numbers, but I believe our store planned to lose over $160k last year. That's a load of money, and it's unbelievably easy to steal in a store. Even easier if you have a group of people helping you. Stores really can't stop theft when they have that many items and a far too low employee/customer ratio.

The original topic poster should have looked to see if the package was already opened though. When shopping for fruit, don't you always look for the one that's most ripe, or do you take the first thing you see? Or when buying a TV, don't you power the thing up in store and test it out? I would, so I save myself the hassle of returning a broken TV/spoiled food. I certainly won't buy media if it has been opened. And if it's the last media of that type, open it and check yourself. No need to cast blame on others for one's lack of shopping etiquette.

[Max0r]

This is a demonstration of things coming into balance. The corporation behaves a certain way, their customer base follows suit :)

I.e. its theifs vs theifs, cheats vs cheats. If you go in there, you got to be careful with that stuff =p

I still love best buy for the occasional retail harddrives with giant rebates ^_^

Btw, if BB gives you any trouble, a massive fit of screaming and cursing should get the job done... especially if you get a female to do it. I know somebody who's broken and had replaced for free several computers, thanks to his mom completely going ballistic at best buy. And each time it was a better comp.

[wandl]

when I worked for Best Buy, a customer called me cos I worked in the PC dept right next to the rest rooms and the customer had found an empty Playstation 2 box...AN EMPTY PLAYSTATION 2 BOX!! I didn't think someone could steal a console...

[Stupidpenguin]

Heres an ethics question for you guys. Would you steal from an oil company thats just had us bent over for the last six months? HELL YES i would. Corporate america is going insane. Prices are up, wages are down. I dont condone stealing, but I know none of these corprations have any problems with milking every last dime out of us.

[Max0r]

Case in point :)

[twEEkerAreUs]

when I worked for Best Buy, a customer called me cos I worked in the PC dept right next to the rest rooms and the customer had found an empty Playstation 2 box...AN EMPTY PLAYSTATION 2 BOX!! I didn't think someone could steal a console...

On a big theft incident at CC, they got away with 4 PS2's along with many other things. They had the Spider wraps around them too rofl.........It's not that hard to get them out, you just have to hide yourself somewhere in the store where it is difficult to be seen with no traffic. CC stores are usually poorly secured anyway, Best Buy blows them away when it comes to it that and profit lol.

[Captain Helghas]

Heres an ethics question for you guys. Would you steal from an oil company thats just had us bent over for the last six months? HELL YES i would. Corporate america is going insane. Prices are up, wages are down. I dont condone stealing, but I know none of these corprations have any problems with milking every last dime out of us.
Free Market = Don't buy from them then

[Stupidpenguin]

Free Market = Don't buy from them then

Dont buy from them = not able to drive to work

[Captain Helghas]

Dont buy from them = not able to drive to work
China has a large population of people that ride a bicycle to work in the morning. Djibouti has people that walk from Somalia to work.

[Kid Payne]

Funny thing, I was on the train on my way home a while back and overheard this guy talking about how he buys PC games and copies them, and returns them without the store ever suspecting a thing. Then he went on to explain that he uses a hair dryer to peel away at the security sticker. I looked over to get a glance of this guy thinking he was some kid I'd like to B!tch slap, but I was shocked to see a grown man in his late 30s or early 40s. wtf...

[Stupidpenguin]

China has a large population of people that ride a bicycle to work in the morning. Djibouti has people that walk from Somalia to work.


Really happy for China and Djibouti. Dont live there so I'm not about to compare my situation to them. I never said I steal, I said I dont condone other people doing it also. My point was i dont feel bad for any corporation getting stolen from though. They dont feel bad charging 3.00$ a gallon for gas and raking in record profits. Free market doen't really work to well when every gas company is raping you.

[hkgonra]

You know, even though Best Buy security may be lax, the issue is not that Bestbuy security sucks, The issue is that the thief that stole the software or cd keys from BestBuy sucks.

And on top of that even IF they get caught nothing really happens to them :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[||Console||]

Im not looking for a flame , this is a serious question

what is it that companys "own" when it comes to software ?
It all breaks down into Binary 1's and 0's an Im pretty sure you cant copyright 0&1 (bill gates tryed along time ago ) .

[Vaio]

That's like arguing that no one owns the base elements used to create the paper and ink used to write books, or to write the notes of a song. It isn't what the program, book, song, etc is made of that is copyrighted. What is being copyrighted is the end result of those basic elements when they are arranged in the correct order to create what the designer origially came up with.

[rainless]

TAKE IT!!! TAKE IT ALL BEFORE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!

[Adragontattoo]

Im not looking for a flame , this is a serious question

what is it that companys "own" when it comes to software ?
It all breaks down into Binary 1's and 0's an Im pretty sure you cant copyright 0&1 (bill gates tryed along time ago ) .

those 1's &0's in a certain order make you able to type on this screen in this browser etc..

The co. owns the code that those 1's and 0's are made up of.

[Kenshiro]

sounds like an inside job to me.

[dippy_skoodlez]

This happened to me with WoW. I bought a copy and the disk was gone. I went back and requested I trade it for another copy and eventually I was allowed. Amazing by feeling the wieght of the boxes, atleast 4 more were empty.

Why would you steal WoW cd's? :bang head You have to use the cd key to make an account, and its a subscription..

They practially give them away for $1.99 now at eb games :beer:

[b1029384756]

I didn't read through the entire thread, but, regarding the OP's situation...it's good that it worked out through "appropriate" means, but I've been in situations like that before. When I pay for an item, I consider it to be mine and I don't feel I need permission of retail employees to take what's rightfully mine, even if the law is on their side. If that had happened to me, where I ended up paying for an empty box, I would still consider it the store's responsibility to provide me with what I paid for, not mine to check the contents before buying. So, I would have probably tried to resolve it amicably, but if that failed, I would have taken another one right off the shelf and walked out of the store with it in front of everyone (no need to hide since I'd only be taking what I own anyway). I've done this at Suncoast with a movie that turned out to be an empty DVD case and challenged them to stop me when the manager refused a refund or exchange. They didn't try to. Even if it's against corporate policy, I don't honor any policy that states that a company has the right to defraud me. I don't care if I'm forced to agree to it in order to shop there, as far as I'm concerned, it's null and void. If I want to gamble, I go to a casino or horse track, or find some sports fans to wager with. I don't expect to take a risk on whether a store will give me an item for my money.

[pik4chu]

GO SSS! Show that delete button who's the boss! :beer:
please edit out your post, these forums do not condone pirating software of any kind.


On the note of theft, having worked in retail for a while (hated it a lot...can't recommend that job to anyone) I always heard the reports and such, big retail stores always count into thier budget theft, and the $$ amount that they assume to lose is downright frieghtening. As for lax security in BB. I worked in Sears for a few months and during that time two 42 Plasma TVs were stolen off display, and they had a camera pointed at them AND a security cable (you know those metal braided cable lock things). The person walked in with a pair of bolt cutters, *snip* picked it up and walked right out and was gone congrats on your 6 grand TV (this was back when they had first come out). We would find open boxes for phones, remotes, controllers and stuff all over. The alarm tags would go off all the time (one unit had a roblem, was super sensitive to static and would sometimes go off if someone just walked by too clsoe lol) and it would take security ages to get there it was silly like they didnt care.

As for exploits, so sort of friend of a friend would go to places like best buy and microcenter. Buy things on sale and return them to circuit city and CompUSA on several ocasions he made 50-100bucks doing it since hed just take the money and go buy it back elsewhere to keep.

Someone asked what good would it do to steal WoW? take the serial and just find the install on the internet, install the game get your char powerleveled and sell it off. or even sell it off to begin with to places that do that.

[Silversinksam]

please edit out your post, these forums do not condone pirating software of any kind.


On the note of theft, having worked in retail for a while (hated it a lot...can't recommend that job to anyone) I always heard the reports and such, big retail stores always count into thier budget theft, and the $$ amount that they assume to lose is downright frieghtening. As for lax security in BB. I worked in Sears for a few months and during that time two 42 Plasma TVs were stolen off display, and they had a camera pointed at them AND a security cable (you know those metal braided cable lock things). The person walked in with a pair of bolt cutters, *snip* picked it up and walked right out and was gone congrats on your 6 grand TV (this was back when they had first come out). We would find open boxes for phones, remotes, controllers and stuff all over. The alarm tags would go off all the time (one unit had a roblem, was super sensitive to static and would sometimes go off if someone just walked by too clsoe lol) and it would take security ages to get there it was silly like they didnt care.

As for exploits, so sort of friend of a friend would go to places like best buy and microcenter. Buy things on sale and return them to circuit city and CompUSA on several ocasions he made 50-100bucks doing it since hed just take the money and go buy it back elsewhere to keep.

Someone asked what good would it do to steal WoW? take the serial and just find the install on the internet, install the game get your char powerleveled and sell it off. or even sell it off to begin with to places that do that.

Appreciate the back up.

I wacked all the warez posts, Next I will be wacking members and they will be going on all expense paid 3 day vacations if this warez discussion continues.

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[aaronjb]

As for lax security in BB. I worked in Sears for a few months and during that time two 42 Plasma TVs were stolen off display, and they had a camera pointed at them AND a security cable (you know those metal braided cable lock things).

OK, 42 plasmas were stolen at once, or over a period of time? If this happened in one heist, then sure, I can understand. But over time? The entire store would be closed. That's more shrink than any corporate office would tolerate, and the entire store would be shut down for a compete shakedown and overhaul.

[Midnight Dream]

OK, 42 plasmas were stolen at once, or over a period of time? If this happened in one heist, then sure, I can understand. But over time? The entire store would be closed. That's more shrink than any corporate office would tolerate, and the entire store would be shut down for a compete shakedown and overhaul.

not 42, 2 42"

[pik4chu]

not 42, 2 42"
what he said, 2, 42" plasma TVs, this happened in a weeks time.

[aaronjb]

what he said, 2, 42" plasma TVs, this happened in a weeks time.

I promise that I'll read posts before replying. Really. :)

[dippy_skoodlez]

Someone asked what good would it do to steal WoW? take the serial and just find the install on the internet, install the game get your char powerleveled and sell it off. or even sell it off to begin with to places that do that.

He said they stole only teh cd's :p

[archangelgabe]

Man, BB has stated their invasion of hawaii. It was a big thing when they opened up on the neighbor Island, but they may just jump over to my island to compete with costco and walmart.

Bah, like we need ANOTHER wholesale dealer out here in the middle of the ocean.

[damarble]

I worked in Sears for a few months and during that time two 42 Plasma TVs were stolen off display, and they had a camera pointed at them AND a security cable (you know those metal braided cable lock things). The person walked in with a pair of bolt cutters, *snip* picked it up and walked right out and was gone congrats on your 6 grand TV (this was back when they had first come out). We would find open boxes for phones, remotes, controllers and stuff all over. The alarm tags would go off all the time (one unit had a roblem, was super sensitive to static and would sometimes go off if someone just walked by too clsoe lol) and it would take security ages to get there it was silly like they didnt care.


Haha you're so right. Do you remember the PMT? Well I'm a step above him at the district level and I see this stuff all the time. It's almost comical. Just act like you belong there and nobody questions you. And the Loss Prevention team is a joke, so lazy it's not even funny.

[pik4chu]

He said they stole only teh cd's :p
he also said it was a good bet the keys had been copied down. Dont need to steel them just write them down. When installing WoW its just a prompt for key, dont have to send in a registration card or anything. If the box of really any current software has been opened (especially online capable) you can safely bet the CD key has been copied down and used/sold

*@Loss PRevention Team, lol I remember those guys!! I was never involved with them at Sears but at another corporation I worked for (an ISP/hosting/datacenter company of sorts) I was a part of that team, which was formed after the building 'cleaning crew' stole 8 (yes 8) laptops off desks one night :) Had to practically clean blood off the conference room walls after the meeting we had with the building management lol :eek:

[Midnight Dream]

When installing WoW its just a prompt for key

Actually, you are not prompted for a key any time during the install. You get prompted for that key when you create an account. Never again.

[Adragontattoo]

I had to take my Aunt up to BB the other day when I was in Ohio, she needed a few things and doesnt trust online shopping. While we were in there I went over to look at what deals were on games and HW to see if she should get a new HDD from there or not. 2 HDD's gone, open boxes laying on the shelves and all.

I can kind of see how yanking a game can happen, but having enough time to rip open a box and steal two hdd??

[pik4chu]

Actually, you are not prompted for a key any time during the install. You get prompted for that key when you create an account. Never again.
Sorry, I made the assumption that people actually create an account when they install WoW..otherwise whats the point? :)

[wa77ss]

kind of, people in certain economic stations feel entitled or owed.

The rich dont want the poor and such dirtying their neighborhoods and the poor feel that they deserve to be given things since the rich "can afford to share".

Meanwhile the "middle" class gets the worst of both sides

Well said Sir :beer: :beer:

It all comes down to how morally corrupt the person really is. I couldnt steal something if I wanted too :cry:

[Midnight Dream]

Sorry, I made the assumption that people actually create an account when they install WoW..otherwise whats the point? :)

Reinstallation.

[Adragontattoo]

Reinstall and also if you copy he Key you can basically get a free second acct. The CD is just easy to take since it is already open and you spent the time to copy the key.