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EclipseJP
11-23-01, 08:29 PM
Im running Windows 98SE and when i put my FSB above 145 I get windows Registry errors and it keeps restarting and says that it will fix all the errors. Whats the deal?

flounder43
11-23-01, 08:32 PM
That is a sure sign that you have hit your oc limit.

martyt
11-24-01, 06:20 AM
I agree with Flouder, but....

Last winter I put my computer out the window when it was about 0 def F outside. I was able to get a bit more out of the machine. So if you really want to do a bit more, post this in the Cooling forum and include your installed cooling components .

UnseenMenace
11-24-01, 06:32 AM
Yes the previous posts are correct imho.
The registery errors generally suggest that you have in some way reached your overclock limit using FSB. Perhaps its heat related, perhaps a specific card is holding you back, to discover if this is the case I would suggest removing all uneccessary cards and seeing how high you can go without them, then by re-fitting the cards one at a time, you can discover which is causing your stability issue.

out of curiousity you have not stated if the CPu is unlocked, if so what Multiplier are you using when you obtain your highest FSB and have you tried a lower multiplier ?

EclipseJP
11-24-01, 09:44 AM
No the CPU is not unlocked. Also I lowered the multiplier to 10.5 from 11.5. Right now I have the case cover off. The only extra card I have on there is the LAN card. Ill try to take that out and see what happens. I have the computer in the basement so I dont think that its a heat prob cause the cpu is at a steady 38C. I have the thermaltake memory heat spreader on my memory. What if i updated to windows XP would that make any difference?

martyt
11-24-01, 12:28 PM
The heat can be related to the case temperature or to the temperature on the chip itself. People buy humongous fans and heat sinks to cool their chips. Others use water cooling systems. Still others will use refrigerators to cool. No matter what you are doing unless you have an expensive heat sink with a very fast fan, you can do more even without water or refrigeration. Look at the cooling forum if you don't believe me.

I had a better fan and sent it back to the vendor because of noise. So I could do better with regard to cooling, too. But I don't because I like the quiet.

As batboy often points out we have all been where you are concerning heat and our knowledge. If you already know this stuff I apologize.

EclipseJP
11-24-01, 03:36 PM
I got the Thermosonic Thermoengine Heatsink with the Delta 7500
RPM 60mm fan on it. Its a pretty decent Heatsink. And Im in the cool basement. I have memory heat spreaders too. Also have a hard drive cooler. Im pretty good on heat dissapation.

martyt
11-24-01, 08:39 PM
Sounds good to me. I think you could try removing any uneeded memory sticks and any cards such as network cards as was suggested by another poster.

Are your memory sticks identical?

Warlord2
11-24-01, 11:56 PM
I had those errors when after my first overclock and all I did was have to up my vcore and errors went away

EclipseJP
11-25-01, 02:54 PM
I only have one stick of memory and Ill try and remove the network card, though that sucks cause ill have no internet connection. But just for the test itll be fine. Ill try upping the core some more first.

Ok I tried all the above. I got stack errors and got himem not found and XMS something error. I dunno. I think that this Dragon Plus Board Sucks for overclocking thats what the problem is.

Tech^Cellfish
11-26-01, 06:43 AM
Alternate the Vcore. Higher voltage may get your system stable. It always fixes my registry problems.

EclipseJP
11-26-01, 05:28 PM
I maxed my voltage but now I cant get games to run for any longer then 45 seconds then i get booted to my desktop.

Softwebdev
11-26-01, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by EclipseJP
Im running Windows 98SE and when i put my FSB above 145 I get windows Registry errors and it keeps restarting and says that it will fix all the errors. Whats the deal?


LOWER your FSB below 140.........................your computer will not function properly if you don't do that...................about the CORE VOLTAGE...........don't raise it higher than 0.3..........damaging chip will occur.............

SAFE POINT for overclocking FSB is 5% of your original FSB.......go over this will cause you a lot of problems

good luck

Kryten
11-27-01, 02:55 AM
I agree with some of the other you have hit a hardware wall, I recently changed a HDD from my ATA100 7200 drive to a older drive to do some testing and I couldn't get the same OS in the same machine to load backed off the frontside bus and everything was sweet.
Removing non neccessary bottlenecks could always help (might be time to pull out that ISA soundblaster 16).
or equivalant dinosour.

Silver
11-27-01, 01:28 PM
Up against the wall. My sytem will almost boot windows at 1807 but just before all is loaded, REBOOT. Heat at the cpu is killing it. Get rid of the heat and she may go in. Stability is another issue. The heat must be kept away. During bootups, registry errors (in my experience) are often related to reaching for high FSB speeds. If the ram can't do it then corrupt data is stored and BSOD's (or registry erros) follow. Good advice on previous responses, back off the FSB and change multipliers if you are trying to reach higher.

EclipseJP
11-27-01, 04:43 PM
I really have no bottlenecks in my system. I have a built in 5.1 sound card in the MOBO. The only cards I have are a Network card and a Video card. I tried changing the multiplier and I get even more errors. I got it up to 148 FSB stable but like I said if I even touch the multipliers my whole system is instantly screwed up. I dont see how people are getting there stuff up to 166 FSB.
Do you guys think that its the MOBO. I mean I could always buy a new one. Im goin for pure power and I want to have the best.

Softwebdev
11-27-01, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by EclipseJP
I really have no bottlenecks in my system. I have a built in 5.1 sound card in the MOBO. The only cards I have are a Network card and a Video card. I tried changing the multiplier and I get even more errors. I got it up to 148 FSB stable but like I said if I even touch the multipliers my whole system is instantly screwed up. I dont see how people are getting there stuff up to 166 FSB.
Do you guys think that its the MOBO. I mean I could always buy a new one. Im goin for pure power and I want to have the best.

there is nothing wrong with your MOBO

did you run stability test in your system ? if not, try to download

prime95 or stability test................and run it for more than 1 hour and see what happens..............if everything is fine............do nothing..........otherwise, lower the FSB........and try increase 30% of original cpu SPEED with appropriate jumpers...........and run the above software....................to test your computer

increase slowly..............until your computer can't handle any more...........TRY TO RUN THESE TESTS WITHOUT YOUR NETWORKING CARD

after trying above suggestion and your computer is still messing up..........have 2 choices.................

1- like your said, spend your hard earned CASH to a brand new MOBO
2- or just go to NORMAL speed...............and forget the OVERCLOCK DREAM................for awhile...............

Softwebdev
11-27-01, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Softwebdev


the question is do you really think that they have 166 FSB and their computer is running fine?

there is 1 problem with OVERCLOCKING...... PEOPLE...........everyone wants to go HIGHER and FASTER..........................without having a good understanding where it should be stop.................i see you go 166.......therefore....i want to go to 180...............

what is the point of running high speed and your computer doesn't work properly ?

if you see somebody jump from 10 floors, you want to try that too ? hope so....hope so............i will bring my camera



DO NOT LET YOUR EGO CONTROL YOU

My computer is running at 180 FSB.....COOL.....GO HIGHER ......HIGHER....HIGHER...AND.....YOUR COMPUTER WILL GO TO HELL..DIRECTLY....:)

Silver
11-28-01, 03:20 PM
That last advice is VERY, VERY good advice. Now for reality, when one lays in bed thinking, you know, those moments when all is focused on that new idea (that others have tried and failed at), do you really consider not visiting any more Overclocking Forums? My father had the same problem at one time in regards to hot rodding. Put in this perspective he better understands the driving force behind all this. Hard as I try, I just can't let it go and say "alright, back it off and be satisfied with its performance".

I understand.

EclipseJP
11-29-01, 09:19 PM
Thanks softwebdev I needed that. :o
My girlfriend always says stuff like that to me as well. " Cant you just leave well enuf alone? You just got that car and your getting new rims and stuff to make it faster." Im wierd like that I guess.
Well I just unlocked my cpu. So im gunna go and test it out.
Ill also try running that program.

Softwebdev
11-29-01, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by EclipseJP
Thanks softwebdev I needed that. :o
My girlfriend always says stuff like that to me as well. " Cant you just leave well enuf alone? You just got that car and your getting new rims and stuff to make it faster." Im wierd like that I guess.
Well I just unlocked my cpu. So im gunna go and test it out.
Ill also try running that program.

you are not weird when you want things to do better.............you are very lucky man to have a girlfriend like that..................she really cares about you..........that's why she said things like that..........otherwise, she will not give a damn on what you do.............please don't feel that i lecture you or anything..........OK.........let get back to overclock , SHALL WE?

i'm glad that you unclock your CPU...........try to install w2k on this computer with every hardware you have.....................if everything goes well.................PROCEED to overclock.............

1-download prime95 or stability test at www.download.com if you haven't done so

2-To get start, increase 30% of original CPU speed...........with 5% of original FSB..........your computer boot to desktop of w2k ? everything is fine.................run above softwares........

3-if everything goes fine, INCREASE SLOWLY CPU speed...........and FSB.........until your computer give you all kind of error messages..................when it gives you all kind of error message, just lower a little bit...........UNTIL everything runs STABLE..

you are SUCCESSFUL overclocker
.

terranovae
12-24-01, 11:43 AM
Can we overlock using this motherboard?

I hate it when MSI published inccorect infos about the mobo in the manual, when it stated that it was using a KM133A (ms-6340M) instead I found out ver1 printed on my mobo's pcb.

Thanks.