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dolemitecomputer
11-23-01, 09:12 PM
I had done some modifications to a case I bought and decided to use the ram sinks from a ThermalTake package I have on my Kyro 2 4500 memory chips. I used Arctic Silver epoxy ,which I had used before on a older video card, to make them adhesive. I was very careful to only use it on the chips and not let it get all over the card.
Once they had dried I went ahead and installed the card. Now I have no video. The computer boots fine and I hear a single beep that means all hardware should check out ok. I checked the fan on the card and it is getting power. So I borrow another video card which is a Matrox G450 eTV and that worked perfect. My question is how could have this happened? I even took off the ram sinks and cleaned off the Arctic Silver and that made no difference. I know that it is not conductive but for some reason the card does not work at all.

funnyperson1
11-23-01, 10:06 PM
unfortunately, as several members on this board learned, Artic Silver, is conductive enough to ruin a video card...i dunno what to say, but unless you have a whole heap of rubbing alcohol and a toothbrush to use on your video card, i thinks its dead....

donny_paycheck
11-23-01, 10:25 PM
Oh man I must be lucky....I got all the as epoxy on the ram thankfully and none on the legs...yet....so I'm hoping my luck holds out as I do this to my bro's gf2 gts

Cisco Kid
11-23-01, 10:25 PM
Don't use it on ramsinks?? Is thermal tape a better alternative?? Cause I plan to put some sinks on my DDR vivo but I have some thermal compound that is not ASII, maybe not as good but good enough....

Cisco kId:(

dolemitecomputer
11-24-01, 12:07 PM
Well I tried several times to take off as much of the compound as I cold but no luck. Still does not show any video. I will try again but if it is still there I might need a microscope to get it. :confused:

Cisco Kid
11-24-01, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by dolemitecomputer
Well I tried several times to take off as much of the compound as I cold but no luck. Still does not show any video. I will try again but if it is still there I might need a microscope to get it. :confused:

dude I think it is dead unfortunately...

Cisco Kid:D :(

Silversinksam
11-25-01, 04:00 AM
Arctic Silver Alumina adhesive is totally non electricly conductive thanks to its use of ceramics rather than silver based, and hopefully we wont see this problem in the future.


http://www.arcticsilver.com/images/alumina_adhesive_med.jpg


:rolleyes:

donny_paycheck
11-25-01, 11:45 AM
I got a LITTLE bit of AS adhesive on the leads of 2 RAM chips on my gf3 and immediately wiped it off with a q-tip. I wiped it parallel with the leads so as to not spread it further and close circuits that didn't belong. I got lucky it sounds like. What I'd do if I were you would be to take a fine-bristle toothbrush and some acetone or MEK (methyl ethyl ketone, AWESOME solvent) and scrub thoroughly, then do the q-tip wipe parallel with the leads with a dry one before the solvent evaporates. This should hopefully get it out.

Of course, it might not even be a renegade circuit that's doing this. I'm not enough of an engineer to tell you how to test id card components so I won't try. I just wish you luck with this endeavor.

dolemitecomputer
11-26-01, 12:44 PM
I will try that again but I seriously didn't get any on anything other than the chips to begin with but that is the only thing I can think of as to why it is not working.

"If you were to fall off the Empire State Building, it'd probably be a good idea to just go limp in the air and act like a dummy. Then somebody might try to catch you because hey, free dummy." -Jack Handey

Lol. I remember that. :D

Silver
11-27-01, 01:59 PM
I read somewhere that the artic silver is very conductive and therefore when I put it on my ram was very careful to stay well away from the edges of the chip. Used superglue on two corners and pressed hard. The artic silver thus spread out under the sink but stayed short of contacting any legs. Go with the prior response and you may be able to resurrect the deceased.

dolemitecomputer
11-27-01, 09:58 PM
I tried but no luck. I give up at this point. A new card will be on its way soon but this time no ThermalTake ramsinks on this one. :confused:

funnyperson1
11-27-01, 10:29 PM
i say u should still use the ramsinks, just attach them with thermal tape or Artic Alumina which uses sceramics+aluminum (non conductive!!!) cmon man, tweak it...;)

Silver
11-28-01, 03:01 PM
Let's see, one Prophet MX, one generic video card, one 750 Duron, one gig R t-bird, etc. I geuss it would not be experimenting were all to go well. The key is to learn. Yes, one dead video card and I am sure that the new one will sit nice and pretty in the case while your mind wonders what you could do/score if you ......I suspect that having done it once you shall try again in time. This time I suggest that you go and check out how to attach the ram sinks safely(?). There are some good articles on doing this. Good Luck!!

Now lets see, if the GPU is putting out..... maybe a pelt.....no, condensation problems.....water?, yes water and the ram??...

Tis a terrible thing to overclock.