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Maximus Nickus
11-24-01, 07:04 AM
Is it worth getting the 1900+ or should I wait for the 2000+ to come out? I would like to hit 2Ghz (without watercooling) so should I wait and when is it coming out???
I'm getting a Epox 8KHA+
Cheers!:D

Nick:burn:

]-[itman
11-24-01, 09:46 PM
personally i'd wait. Even if you don't decide to go with the 2000+ chip the 1900+ chip should be cheaper.

dugans
11-24-01, 10:22 PM
I would think it depends on what you've got now: if you're going from a 1.4 to a 1900+ I wouldn't think the extra speed is really worth the money yet. But if you have a 900 (or less) it probably would be.
I didn't get my first Athlon until the 1.3s were out- and even then I got a 900. That was my upgrade from a k62-450 and WOW! what a difference! Shortly after that I ran into a deal on a 1ghz/KT7A combo cheap and 'clocked it up to 1.4. Well, the difference between that 900@1068 and the 1000@1.4 isn't much: I have to do the same thing on both at the same time to tell the difference!

If its for bragging rights, DO IT! (I'm in favor of bragging rights:D ) but if you want to get a big boost in visible performance you need to be 30% faster or more. My opinion.

BTW: I'm actually using that 450 right now- it is SLOW! But I don't want to slow down the crunchin' of my "farm"

Maximus Nickus
11-25-01, 01:04 PM
When are they coming ut? My mums gettin a 1gig and my 1 gig blew so I need it quite quick although i can wait up to 10 days.

]-[itman
11-25-01, 01:12 PM
oh lol in that case the 2000+ isn't an option. They won't be out until 1st quarter of next year. If you have the $$ go for the 1900+! Be sure to keep us updated too.

abb1
11-26-01, 04:07 AM
Wait untill the new 2000+ comes out, Then get the 1900+. The price will be dropped by then.
Abb

killem1x1
11-26-01, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by rogerdugans
I would think it depends on what you've got now: if you're going from a 1.4 to a 1900+ I wouldn't think the extra speed is really worth the money yet. But if you have a 900 (or less) it probably would be.
I didn't get my first Athlon until the 1.3s were out- and even then I got a 900. That was my upgrade from a k62-450 and WOW! what a difference! Shortly after that I ran into a deal on a 1ghz/KT7A combo cheap and 'clocked it up to 1.4. Well, the difference between that 900@1068 and the 1000@1.4 isn't much: I have to do the same thing on both at the same time to tell the difference!

If its for bragging rights, DO IT! (I'm in favor of bragging rights:D ) but if you want to get a big boost in visible performance you need to be 30% faster or more. My opinion.

BTW: I'm actually using that 450 right now- it is SLOW! But I don't want to slow down the crunchin' of my "farm"

I am firm agreement of the Braggin rights :)
If money is no object buy the 1900 and the 2k. I will wait it out, but I have an 1800 so its easy for me to wait 2 mos. ;)

Maximus Nickus
11-26-01, 10:56 AM
I can't wait that long without a PC!!!

Im using my mums (soon to be my 7 year old brothers) P Pro 200@240, I will get the 1900+, any ideas on whats the fasted cpu you could put in an epox 8kha+? (3ghz?)

Wheres a good place to get em as I want a real good oc, i mean 2ghz! (hopefully...it has been done) www.overclock.co.uk sells unlocked ones but i dont know if there any good,
I was thinking about ebuyer.com or overclockers.co.uk and remember I live in the UK!


P.S. Are you sure it isn't coming out till then? Will there be huge speed increases then? I mean I don't wanna get a 1900+ (1.6Ghz) and end up finding out that on the 1st Jan the 2000+ comes out then a week later a 2ghz one!!!

After all if thats going to happen then I can use that 1gig chip my mums getting ( I'll have to spend £20 for a 650 to keep her going) then buy the 2gig one? Is it worth it and will it support my Epox board?

I know its long but thanks for your feedback:)

]-[itman
11-26-01, 04:59 PM
Yes there'nt aren't any more XP's coming out until the first Quarter of next year. If you willing to wait the new AMD "Hammers" will be out next year. They should be absolutely awesome! Check this thread http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=48224. If you can't wait the 2000+'s and up will be an improvement but I don't think that much of one.

Maximus Nickus
11-26-01, 06:18 PM
Hammers look good what will they work on the Epox 8KHA+???
I mean if they do i'll probably wait, also do you know the highest CPU speed my board supports as well, I thought it would be about 3ghz....

Cheers,
Nick:cool:

i12bina3
11-26-01, 06:38 PM
the hammer is an entirely new architecture = new motherboards
... so the epox model you are referring to wont take the hammer
But the hammer isnt coming out very soon so i dont think that is an option as well
I dont know how high your motherboard goes
but i think the highest (recommended) speed it can take is the highest multiplier * 133

Maximus Nickus
11-27-01, 11:45 AM
Oh well forget the hammers then, wouldn't a bios update help though? I mean some boards for the T-Bird can run Xp's...

Anyway I worked out that the highest the board could possibly go is 200*15 (dream on...) which is 3Ghz, 15*133 = 1.95Ghz.

Oh well I'll just get a 1900+ then, do you know what the fastest XP will be before the Hammers come out?

]-[itman
11-27-01, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by nick_cw
Oh well forget the hammers then, wouldn't a bios update help though? I mean some boards for the T-Bird can run Xp's...

Anyway I worked out that the highest the board could possibly go is 200*15 (dream on...) which is 3Ghz, 15*133 = 1.95Ghz.

Oh well I'll just get a 1900+ then, do you know what the fastest XP will be before the Hammers come out?

not sure on that but the plan so far i believe is up to 2100+

proze
11-28-01, 12:42 PM
imho the big price difference between the top processor levels doesn't warrant the extra few mhz. i'd get a 1900+ in your possie. save on the processor and the 20 quid you'd have to spend on the 650 for your ma.