new procesors from intel

[(HR)Titan]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4589

E6850.........3.00 GHz.........1333 MHz.........4MB L2
E6800.........2.93 GHz.........1066 MHz.........4MB L2
E6750.........2.66 GHz.........1333 MHz.........4MB L2
E6650.........2.33 GHz.........1333 MHz.........4MB L2

'The upcoming Core 2 Duo E6800 will arrive clocked at 2.93 GHz—similar to Intel’s Core 2 Extreme X6800. The processor is expected to be Intel’s flagship processor for mainstream segments. Aside from the locked multiplier, the Core 2 Duo E6800 is identical to the Core 2 Extreme X6800.'

[nvidiaOCmaster]

Price?

[(HR)Titan]

not given

[deathman20]

Wonder if the new ones will be on the 45nm process.... mmmmm 45nm :)

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Wonder if the new ones will be on the 45nm process.... mmmmm 45nm :)

i doubt it.

these will just be less overclockable, thanks to the stock 333fsb. that means that the e6850 will have a multi of 9, the e6750 a multi of 8 and the e6650 a multi of 7. :mad:

yawn....

[(Clanger)(DOA)]

i doubt it.

these will just be less overclockable, thanks to the stock 333fsb. that means that the e6850 will have a multi of 9, the e6750 a multi of 8 and the e6650 a multi of 7. :mad:

yawn....

buzzkill.

[hUMANbEATbOX]

i guess the only upside is that a e6800 will "only" be around $500. totally guessing here, maybe even less. if the QX6700 will be the quad core "extreme" cpu, around $999, then the e6850 may be....ahhhhhhhhhhh who knows...

[greenmaji]

Yes, it would be alot more exciting to see more 800mhz (1333mhz :rolleyes: ) chips.

[deathman20]

i doubt it.

these will just be less overclockable, thanks to the stock 333fsb. that means that the e6850 will have a multi of 9, the e6750 a multi of 8 and the e6650 a multi of 7. :mad:

yawn....

Well I could hit 514Mhz easy on my ram so I wouldn't mind the dropped multi with my current chipset.

[SeasonalEclipse]

Such pretty CPUs.. XD If only I could get modernized and not be back 2-4 years back.

[sephiroth_749]

i agree with seasonal eclipse. It would be nice to have such power

[brywalker]

Hmm. Looks like I already have a E6850.

http://www.brywalker.com/3GHz.jpg

Without trying either. Neat!

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Yes, it would be alot more exciting to see more 800mhz (1333mhz :rolleyes: ) chips.

if only they had plans for a 4mb chip like the e4300.

the crappy thing is, that the newer steppings will be on these newer chips, and will obviously OC better (if you forget the fsb limitations). who knows, 4ghz on air could be common. but you will have to pony up for at least the e6750 to have a chance (500*8). maybe prices will be super low..one can hope. one thing for sure, DDR2 that can run those speeds with decent timings is going up up up. :mad:

this will hurt 975 oc'ers more than 965 oc'ers, but i think its bad for us all.

for phase/DI/LN2, i think the only real option will be the e6800, or X6800 if you can find one. if you are trying to go allllll out, every multi helps, and if you have this kinda cooling, you better be going alllll out. ;)

[nd4spdbh2]

Hmm. Looks like I already have a E6850.

http://www.brywalker.com/3GHz.jpg

Without trying either. Neat!


damnit i was going to post the same thing..... i can pop the fsb up off my e6600 to 333 an WALLA... no overvolt needed... running at 3ghz 1333fsb... thats probably EXACTLY what intel did... CONFRENCE AT INTEL

Buncha guys in suits and sports coats trying to think of a new idea.

BOB the janitor: ya kno thems E6600 chips is really good overclockers... ands a good seller.... take em, change em to run at 1333fsb strap... no need to overvolt because they overclock so well... and sell em for 3 times as much... (keeps on moping the floor)

CEO: GOD DAMNIT BOB thats a good fawkin idea... beers all around :beer: and BOB how would you like a job right under ME the CEO!

Bob: HOT DOG!

[bri1]

e6650 multiplier 9.5?
e6750 multiplier 10.5?
e6800 multiplier 11?
e6850 multiplier 11.5?

madness i say

MADNESS!

[hUMANbEATbOX]

e6650 multiplier 9.5?
e6750 multiplier 10.5?
e6800 multiplier 11?
e6850 multiplier 11.5?


no.
no.
no.
no.

:D

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4745500&postcount=5

[MadMan007]

I second HBB's yawn.

Anyone else realized how short of a lifetime DDR2 will have as the major memory type for all enthusiast platforms? AM2 is pretty new, C2D drove the former DDR s939 users to DDR2. It makes me feel silly to think about buying expensive DDR2. :(

[DavidJa]

what a minute wheres the conroe "805" replacement, did it get scraped?

[Evilsizer]

what a minute wheres the conroe "805" replacement, did it get scraped?
closest one will be E4300 in q1 07.

[SeanBest]

I guess we'll see...

[DavidJa]

closest one will be E4300 in q1 07.

thats the one im talking about. did it get scraped and these are the only ones being introduced or are these processors just further additions.

[Evilsizer]

thats the one im talking about. did it get scraped and these are the only ones being introduced or are these processors just further additions.
Q1 07 is the timeframe intel gave in older road map for the E4xxx line 800fsb/2Mb L2 with no VT and no EIST.

[bobad]

The best thing about the new releases is they *should* bring the E6600 prices down.

[(HR)Titan]

hehe
every1 wiat happy decision

[Sentential]

Its good to see that they are raising the FSB up but the low multiplier is still a major factor. Im still waiting to see a high clock conroe without a low multi

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Its good to see that they are raising the FSB up but the low multiplier is still a major factor. Im still waiting to see a high clock conroe without a low multi

if by high clock you mean 4ghz+ with a multi of 7, then we will have to wait for revision c2 of the 965 chipset. some have hit 600fsb on c1, perhaps it will be more common (with more conventional NB cooling) on c2.

[deathman20]

if by high clock you mean 4ghz+ with a multi of 7, then we will have to wait for revision c2 of the 965 chipset. some have hit 600fsb on c1, perhaps it will be more common (with more conventional NB cooling) on c2.

Yup I can hit 600FSB ( figuratively speaking when I drop the mutli down on my E6600 though) and only need 1.55V. But I can't get much higher then that.

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Yup I can hit 600FSB ( figuratively speaking when I drop the mutli down on my E6600 though) and only need 1.55V. But I can't get much higher then that.

screenshot?

[deathman20]

screenshot?

Na don't have a screen shot of it but I can ramp it up quickly and take a SS of it when I get some time sometime later this week. I'm sure I could even go slightly higher even.

I was running the 7x multi with 465Mhz for 3255Mhz on the CPU. But on the NB it was 598Mhz w/ 1.55V. I was just playing around with speed wise on the board to see what I could hit.

What I really wanted was 3.4Ghz w/ the 7x multi but that didn't work with any settings I was trying. What I was trying to acomplish was getting my ram running faster without pumping the volts through it. I'm sure the NB was getting extremely warm though since it didn't run that cool even when I had 1.45V in her.

[hUMANbEATbOX]

I was running the 7x multi with 465Mhz for 3255Mhz on the CPU. But on the NB it was 598Mhz w/ 1.55V. I was just playing around with speed wise on the board to see what I could hit.

hitting 598 "nb speed" as reported in sandra is a lot easier than hitting a straight up 600fsb AFAIK. i've only seen a couple people do it (with a dropped multi as well mind you), so i would be very impressed if you could.

gl. :)

[MadMan007]

With a lot of luck an e6300 supercooled might do 7x600 if the NB can handle '600MHz' internal, assuming it's the NB itself and not the external connections and whatnot that limit it. Maybe DI on the NB would help :attn:

[hUMANbEATbOX]

With a lot of luck an e6300 supercooled might do 7x600 if the NB can handle '600MHz' internal, assuming it's the NB itself and not the external connections and whatnot that limit it. Maybe DI on the NB would help :attn:

i may be in the process of getting my hands on something that will let me test this theory. ;)

[deathman20]

hitting 598 "nb speed" as reported in sandra is a lot easier than hitting a straight up 600fsb AFAIK. i've only seen a couple people do it (with a dropped multi as well mind you), so i would be very impressed if you could.

gl. :)

If I had a E6300 to play with I'd be more then happy to test it out :)

Well hitting the NB speed of 598 at least you know that the NB and other components can take it. Weather the CPU can take it thats a different story.

Wahoo finally I got lucky on something doing well :)

[hUMANbEATbOX]

deathman, i think fsb speeds are not held back by NB speeds....if they were, what do you think the NB speed of this would be?

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=130410

if you think your board can do 600fsb, drop to 6x and try it out. ;)

[deathman20]

deathman, i think fsb speeds are not held back by NB speeds....if they were, what do you think the NB speed of this would be?

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=130410

if you think your board can do 600fsb, drop to 6x and try it out. ;)

Guess the NB isn't the limiting factor even if the mutli is dropped. Curious though if the X6800 might react differently with the NB if not his should be running 1173Mhz. Besides that I wonder what type of cooling/voltage hes puttin into that and what that board is.

[NWEng]

Wonder if the new ones will be on the 45nm process.... mmmmm 45nm :)
Those fabs won't even be online until 2007 with the first procs due in 2008.

[deathman20]

Those fabs won't even be online until 2007 with the first procs due in 2008.

Not the most reputable source but here..
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/17/intel_to_tape_out_45nm_in_q4/

Doesn't say much about it or whats using it but in 4Q of this year.

[MadMan007]

Tape out

If there was a sudden 6 or 9 month change in CPU shipment dates we would hear about it. That news only means they are on time for all the previous 45nm launch dates not that we'll be buying 45nm process CPUs in Q4.

[Ross]

Those fabs won't even be online until 2007 with the first procs due in 2008.Yorkfield and Wolfdale are both slated for Q3 2007 and both are 45nm. Barring any major setbacks (doubt it since Intel has had 45nm protos since Feb. of this year), not seeing any 45nm in retail until 2008 is EXTREMELY unlikely.

Doesn't say much about it or whats using it but in 4Q of this year.That's just initial stages, I doubt we'll see any 45nm processors before mid-2007 at the earliest and those will probably just be Engineering Samples.

[NWEng]

Not the most reputable source but here..
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/17/intel_to_tape_out_45nm_in_q4/

Doesn't say much about it or whats using it but in 4Q of this year.
Here's some information:
http://www.intel.com/community/arizona/index.htm

Unless construction on the 45nm fabs ramp up, I wouldn't expect much, if anything, until 2008. These pics are from [H]'s coverage of IDF, show the state of the fabs.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTE1OTMxMTQ2MGtqbjZyVDdzOU5fMV81X 2wuanBn

(BTW, the first pic in the link is my wife's "office".)

[Ross]

I thought the AZ fab was to be done this year? In any case, it most certainly isn't the only fab Intel has at their disposal :)

[NWEng]

I don't think it'll be running by year end; but, they are taking people over from fab 12 (as we speak,) to man it. And you're right, looks like D1D will be producing first in mid-2007; I didn't think 45nm was slated for retail until 2008.

[greenmaji]

deathman, i think fsb speeds are not held back by NB speeds....if they were, what do you think the NB speed of this would be?

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=130410

if you think your board can do 600fsb, drop to 6x and try it out. ;)

The X6800 works natively all the way down, it doesn't overclock the northbridge at all at any lower multiplier setting from what I've read.

Here you go.. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=121143

:) MB Model : P5B-Deluxe
:eek: NB : Intel P965/G965 rev C2

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Here you go.. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=121143

:) MB Model : P5B-Deluxe
:eek: NB : Intel P965/G965 rev C2

there you go...this is what will be needed, but then, forget high end SLI or CF, because 975 won't be hitting these speeds ever. serious benchers might not be happy, maybe this will change when (if) 985 comes out.

[deathman20]

The X6800 works natively all the way down, it doesn't overclock the northbridge at all at any lower multiplier setting from what I've read.

Here you go.. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=121143

:) MB Model : P5B-Deluxe
:eek: NB : Intel P965/G965 rev C2


That would make sense at least why it can do it easily. But tehn again I like that E6600 running at 6x instead :)

[greenmaji]

Your NB is rev C1 I bet ;)

[deathman20]

Ok preliminary tests....

6x @ 400Mhz

1.3V Core
1.45V NB!

600Mhz FSB!

Bohya :) hehehe Going to go for 3.0Ghz hehe see if it works that would be 750Mhz NB.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6647/24ghz400fsb600mhznbvk4.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24ghz400fsb600mhznbvk4.jpg)

Well it works at the lower clocks ramping up the NB but then again going higher it crashes no matter what voltage I put into it. Might be the ram holding me back since I do have 4 sticks but who knows.

[Gautam]

there you go...this is what will be needed, but then, forget high end SLI or CF, because 975 won't be hitting these speeds ever. serious benchers might not be happy, maybe this will change when (if) 985 comes out.
Nah, they're still plenty happy. So far just about every single record out there, 3D and 2D (aside from raw speed) has been accomplished on i975X. ;)

[hUMANbEATbOX]

Nah, they're still plenty happy. So far just about every single record out there, 3D and 2D (aside from raw speed) has been accomplished on i975X. ;)

WR's....they were accomplished with higher multi cpu's. i would like to see a e6650 take a WR from a e6600. :D

e6650 at 500fsb on a magic p5w-dh = 3500mhz.
e6600 at 500fsb on a magic p5w-dh = 4500mhz.

e6750 at 450fsb on p5w-dh = 3600mhz.
e6700 at 450fsb on p5w-dh = 4500mhz.

a drop of 2 multi's huge. :-/