Help with E6600 CPU temps

[sektor]

ok..just installed the OS and put on speedfan. I have never used speedfan before, but I am hoping for some quick feedback to ensure I have safe temps right now.

Real quickly, opening up speedfan:

Temp1: 40C
Temp2: 22C

Is Temp1 the temp for the overall system and temp2 is for the CPU?

Sorry if I sound rush...I just want to make sure everything is nice and good to go...feel nervous about my new rig (jitters in me today) :bday:

[jtjuska]

I am not sure as I don't use speedfan but in either case its well within safe limits. I generally try to stay below 55*C for personal comfort on any of my temp sensors. Ill try to download Speedfan and give you an update here when i get home from work.

~jtjuska

[sektor]

I am not sure as I don't use speedfan but in either case its well within safe limits. I generally try to stay below 55*C for personal comfort on any of my temp sensors. Ill try to download Speedfan and give you an update here when i get home from work.

~jtjuska


Thanks. I am just guessing at the temps because they are very similiar to what is being displayed in the BIOS.

I have it running right now and they range:

System:37-39C
CPU: 18-22C

If I am correct, those are pretty good? I still need to hook up a two more fans that will push more air and do some cable management.

But those look like good temps?

Much appreciated.

[jtjuska]

Those are excellent temps. I don't worry about temps below 50*C so you have plenty of room with temperature. How warm is the room temperature out of curiosity (ambient temp)??

~jtjuska

PS you are most welcome :)

[sektor]

Those are excellent temps. I don't worry about temps below 50*C so you have plenty of room with temperature. How warm is the room temperature out of curiosity (ambient temp)??

~jtjuska

PS you are most welcome :)

Thanks for your input. I am relaxing now. :beer: :beer:

Ambient temperature in the room is 74 degrees F.

I still have to do some fan and wire work, make sure case flow is nice and cool. One of my 120mm fans on the back isn't even running. :santa:

thanks again.

[batboy]

CPU will always be the highest temp, so you have them backwards. Those also look like idle temps. Put a load on the system and you'll see the CPU temp shoot up. As long as you are below mid 50 degrees, you'll be ok.

[sektor]

CPU will always be the highest temp, so you have them backwards. Those also look like idle temps. Put a load on the system and you'll see the CPU temp shoot up. As long as you are below mid 50 degrees, you'll be ok.

Really? It seems the opposite. I only say that because the BIOS is pretty close to what speedfan is reading.

If that were the case, then I don't think I am getting very good cooling then. I was expecting temps in the 20's, like what it has now. Continued, that would be running hotter than my old AMD 3800+

Also, when I was installing the OS, patches and a few programs (even running them) Temp2 would change and get higher, which led me to believe that was the CPU. For example, when I fired up itunes, it went from 21 to 25.

[greenmaji]

C2D's core thermomister is calibrated, not comparible to K8 from what I've seen.

[sektor]

This is going to sound pretty crazy, but I am pretty sure Temp2 is the CPU. I just read speedfans FAQ on how to figure out which of the two is the CPU and followed their directions.

But the crazy thing is, I want this thing to run cooler. :beer:

SI-128 is nice, but man, maybe get a better one? :eek:

[deathman20]

Use TAT or CoreTemp to read the tempature. Those acturatly read the diode so you can see what is what.

[batboy]

Trust me, no way the CPU temp would be 20 degrees at normal room temp. You have dual cores in that processor, do you really think it would be only 20 degrees? In fact, if my system temp hit 40 degrees, I would really be worried. Core 2 Duo can handle temps up to 60 degrees. Pretty sure they don't even start thermal throttling until 70 degrees. What motherboard do you have? Have you tried the monitoring software that comes with the mobo? Loading software and drivers ain't loading the CPU. Maybe try running 16M Super Pi and check temps.

[sektor]

Trust me, no way the CPU temp would be 20 degrees at normal room temp. You have dual cores in that processor, do you really think it would be only 20 degrees? In fact, if my system temp hit 40 degrees, I would really be worried. Core 2 Duo can handle temps up to 60 degrees. Pretty sure they don't even start thermal throttling until 70 degrees. What motherboard do you have? Have you tried the monitoring software that comes with the mobo? Loading software and drivers ain't loading the CPU. Maybe try running 16M Super Pi and check temps.


Just installed EasyTune 5 (gigabyte utiliyt).

Shows that the CPU is idiling at 17-21 C
System board is at 33 C right now.

Should I be worried about the system temp now?

[deathman20]

Just installed EasyTune 5 (gigabyte utiliyt).

Shows that the CPU is idiling at 17-21 C
System board is at 33 C right now.

Should I be worried about the system temp now?

Like I said use Coretemp or TAT to read tempatures.

TAT is intels software and will read tempatures correctly of what they actually are.

[Awake77]

With a BigTyphoon, my E6600 idles at ~20C too. Core Temp shows it at ~33-36 or so.

[sektor]

Ok...just installed the tiny core temp program.

Currently, shows:

Core #1: 30C
Core #2: 33C

Assuming idle. What can I expect for loads? Anything above 50 is cautionary?

[deathman20]

Thats more like it temp wise. Is that stock temps? If so that runs pretty close to what I get for stock voltage.

Well if its winter now, consider ~5C increase in temps during summer depending on your household. So in other words if you want to play on the edge, 55C say (summer it will be around 60C) and if youd like to play safer say 45C for top load.

Mind you your clocks will highly effect core tempature before vcore.

[sektor]

Thats more like it temp wise. Is that stock temps? If so that runs pretty close to what I get for stock voltage.

Well if its winter now, consider ~5C increase in temps during summer depending on your household. So in other words if you want to play on the edge, 55C say (summer it will be around 60C) and if youd like to play safer say 45C for top load.

Mind you your clocks will highly effect core tempature before vcore.

Ya, complete stock temps...just build it this afternoon.

I ran TAT and got 31 and 33, so that seems right.

I live in Southern California, so winter is really screwy for us here. Example, it was 79 degrees here today.

Looks like I will be ok. I'm not doing anything hardcorish...just games, internet, music, e-mails, some photo stuff...

Out of curiosity, what do intel heatsinks have the temps at?

Much thanks.

[bert202]

You have a DS3 by chance? My new DS3 has the same problem, BIOS and gigabyte utility show as 17c idle for CPU but core temp shows 36c-40c. I think some of the gigabytes are bugged. Updating my BIOS didn't change anything. I don't think it hurts, just irritating.

[sektor]

You have a DS3 by chance? My new DS3 has the same problem, BIOS and gigabyte utility show as 17c idle for CPU but core temp shows 36c-40c. I think some of the gigabytes are bugged. Updating my BIOS didn't change anything. I don't think it hurts, just irritating.

Yep, DS3.

What was interesting is I booted into the BIOS, checked out the temps. Looked good. I then installed Speedfan and they almost matched what the BIOS said. I figured ok, good to go.

After installing the core temp and TAT, I get more accurate readings.

I wasn't sure what temps are considered dangerous.
The SI-128 does a nice job of blowing air around and keep things nice and cool.

This is slightly off topic, but if in the nearfuture, I wanted a different heatsink, say a ThermalRight Ultra120 or a Tuniq Tower (?), would it make much of a difference worth getting? are talking 1-2-3 temp differences? Or would it be greater?

Thanks for the help everyone.

[MadMan007]

The temp differences between those and an SI-128 wouldn't be huge...5C at at the very most and probably less.

[Stupidpenguin]

My DS3 reads a very high system temp also. You have to get some type of active cooling for the NB. It will bring the system temp down 7-8c at least

[sektor]

My DS3 reads a very high system temp also. You have to get some type of active cooling for the NB. It will bring the system temp down 7-8c at least

Thanks. The SI-128 is a little bit over the NB, with the fan blowing down. It probably cools it a little, but not much.

What would you recommend for the NB?

[Daddyjaxx]

This if it will fit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835109128

My NB has not seen 40c with it.

[bobad]

Ya, complete stock temps...just build it this afternoon.

I ran TAT and got 31 and 33, so that seems right.



Did you run TAT with "Workload Level" set to 100%? That's the best test I have found so far, and will even challenge high end air.

[deathman20]

Did you run TAT with "Workload Level" set to 100%? That's the best test I have found so far, and will even challenge high end air.

Don't need to do it at 100% thats way overkill. ~80% load on TAT is the hotest any program but TAT can get. Prime 95% is the one that loads it nearly the most of any programs. Games are slightly less, 3D renderings are right around game usage temps.

Don't need to go overkill and run use TAT temps as a basis for max air.

[bobad]

Prime 95% is the one that loads it nearly the most of any programs.

That's good to know. :)

Wonder what dual Prime95 would equal in TAT load %?

[deathman20]

That's good to know. :)

Wonder what dual Prime95 would equal in TAT load %?

~80%

[sektor]

This if it will fit:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835109128

My NB has not seen 40c with it.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will fit, because of how the SI-128 hangs over part of the RAM slots and NB.

I might measure again, but I am pretty sure it won't fit.

The only other thing I *might* do is trade out the SI-128 for a Ultra 120 and add this NB cooler.

I have another rig I am going to build and I might just move over the SI-128 to that rig.

It is probably pretty hard to measure how much of a temp difference I will see drop from the SI-128 to the Ultra 120...only reason I would add this is for the NB cooler (and might gain a slight temp drop on the CPU).

Any thoughts on that?

Thanks.

EDIT: I have been playing around with TAT today and have some questions. I started a test at 80% on both cores and the temps were around 40. Is that normal?

I am trying to find out what temps I should be out with my current SI-128 with a high flow fan blowing onto the CPU.
Seems high, but that might just be me. Can someone verify for me?

I hate to sound repetitive, but im pretty new to cooling and stuff. But I am quickly learning.
THe more I get into this, the more I want better cooling. :)
I am trying to figure out how to get my temps down further, without heading the watercooling route.

I appreciate the help and feedback.