why is a peltier in my res?

[The Overclocker]

i have seen some articles on people cooling their resevoirs in order to get rid of their radiator, does anyone know where these articles are or if not what watteage peltier should be used

[Maximus Nickus]

I read a few of these articles (FORGOT url'S) where they were using pelts to cool the water.

Problem 1 is trying to have the cold part of the peltier in contact with the water whilst the hot part isn't.

Problem 2 is Peltiers (unless they are really powerful) won't cool the water fast enough.

Problem 3 is how to cool the peltiers.

You could use more powerful peltiers but then the temp would drop and you would get condensation, also you wouldn't be able to cool the peltiers without watercooling.

If you want to cool with a peltier just use that with the watercooling cooling it, otherwise its to complicated, dangerous (leaks etc) and costly (psu to power the pelts).

I see what you mean by trying to get rid of the radiator but it would be so much hassle to set up, see if it works, cool the pelts you would have spent a lot of cash and have a hotter system.
I would just stick to watercooling w/out pelts.

Nick :cool:

[wolfsid]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nick_cw
[B]I read a few of these articles (FORGOT url'S) where they were using pelts to cool the water.

Problem 1 is trying to have the cold part of the peltier in contact with the water whilst the hot part isn't.

Problem 2 is Peltiers (unless they are really powerful) won't cool the water fast enough.

Problem 3 is how to cool the peltiers.



Yes I agree with him no point of trying to waist a pelter on that.. I rather put one on the video card or motherboard or Cpu u want the water to cool better. Bong cooler or a bigger radatior.


hack the planet.

[The Overclocker]

Originally posted by wolfsid
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nick_cw
[B]I read a few of these articles (FORGOT url'S) where they were using pelts to cool the water.

Problem 1 is trying to have the cold part of the peltier in contact with the water whilst the hot part isn't.

Problem 2 is Peltiers (unless they are really powerful) won't cool the water fast enough.

Problem 3 is how to cool the peltiers.



Yes I agree with him no point of trying to waist a pelter on that.. I rather put one on the video card or motherboard or Cpu u want the water to cool better. Bong cooler or a bigger radatior.


hack the planet.

1) put peltier in res, hot part on outside, cold on inside, no condensation

2) 220Watt?

3) plan on mounting a very large slot 1 heatsink infront of my 120mm intake

i would really like to do this as it is easyer and my coputer will be at ambient, the radiator will warm it up/cool it down to ambient

[ButcherUK]

Originally posted by the overclocker


1) put peltier in res, hot part on outside, cold on inside, no condensation

Or use a metal res, put pelt on outside cools through wall, no leak issues :)

[The Overclocker]

i need to find out how feesabe this would be and how well it would work....... anyone?

[The Overclocker]

ah found a link
http://www.overclockers.com/tips89/index04.asp

[wolfsid]

ok people Let me tell U why it wont work well, First off i did build a pelter and res. the problem is U are going to use a 220 watt pelter and first off that is alot of heat its going to put off the hot side and a Hs just wont do the job then U have to find a power source to power that big pelter... and after all that work and U think U are going to get a nice temp but U really don't get any colder.. If I am wrong maybe i did something wrong when i built my unit.. but i am sure that it does not work as well as a radatior or a bong cooler... + I rather put a pelter that big on a cpu and not waist it on trying to cool the water... U want it cold put it in a freezer other wise get a watercooler or a vaporchill if you want to really get extream... if not stick with a heatsink and leave the pelters out of it LOL...

Hack the planet..

[SavageHenry]

I've thought about doing this, except that I considered machining a cold plate to mount the peltier onto. Then it occurred to me that I could just mount the cold side of the peltier onto another waterblock.

You'd end up with a closed system (with an inline pump) with two waterblocks: one on your cpu, the other on the cold side of your peltier. You'd still need an enormous heatsink (I'm thinking big enough to mount two 120-mm fans onto) if you wanted to aircool the hot side, otherwise you're not really gaining much by watercooling.

[wolfsid]

Originally posted by SavageHenry
I've thought about doing this, except that I considered machining a cold plate to mount the peltier onto. Then it occurred to me that I could just mount the cold side of the peltier onto another waterblock.

You'd end up with a closed system (with an inline pump) with two waterblocks: one on your cpu, the other on the cold side of your peltier. You'd still need an enormous heatsink (I'm thinking big enough to mount two 120-mm fans onto) if you wanted to aircool the hot side, otherwise you're not really gaining much by watercooling.


OMG WHY WHY People... Why even bother building all that and using all that is extra stuff U don't need U wont get any colder... pelters that are above 110 should be on waterblocks to cool 56 and 72 watt could be done with heatsinks but the heatsinks will get hot I already did this experement and I didn't get any better results with this setup U are going to try your better off with just a waterblock and pelter on cpu...


hack the planet...:cool:

[SavageHenry]

The purpose (I presume) is to inhibit condesation by separating the CPU from the peltier. By transferring the heat outside the case you can dissipate it through a larger heatsink than you could mount directly on the processor. I think a heat pipe would be a better way to do this than watercooling, but would be expensive. I agree that you'll always get lower temps by putting the peltier directly on the CPU, that wasn't the point.

In the end I figured it wouldn't be worth the effort.

Don't be so sure that 'aircooling can't be enough'. Using an conventional Socket A heatsink, maybe, but there are others on the market. With a big enough heatsink, and enough airflow, you can cool just about anything. The only thing your experiment proves is that you needed a bigger heatsink :)

[ol' man]

Originally posted by the overclocker
i have seen some articles on people cooling their resevoirs in order to get rid of their radiator, does anyone know where these articles are or if not what watteage peltier should be used

You should cool your coolant with something like this.

If you can't tell I ripped the top of the fridge out and bent it into my coolant. I am testing it right now and before I know it was below zero.I f that is too much there is a thermostat in the fridge that you could drop in the res and keep it where you want it to be as to minimize the condesation. I am going to cryo cool my chip so I am going to have to protect every thing from condesation but probably over everything mostly ice forming.

[ol' man]

http://www.sanyo.com/consumer/appliances/refrigerators/prodimages/sr-368wka.jpg

Here is what the fridge looks like. I am guessing the temps get around -20 deg. C.

[Slurgi]

That is what i would do if i ever used watercooling

Screw a radiator, i would grab my old freezer (around 2"x2"x3")

and put the reservoir in there.

that is just me though :)

[ol' man]

Originally posted by Slurgi
That is what i would do if i ever used watercooling

Screw a radiator, i would grab my old freezer (around 2"x2"x3")

and put the reservoir in there.

that is just me though :)


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Also I have seen small chest freezors around 2X2X4. That would be a perfect resivoir in its self.

[The Overclocker]

hmm, might try that thouge, apparently the whole of england is having a problem with people buying new freezers and friges as they dont have any way to get rid of the old ones. haha my lucky month

[wolfsid]

too much $$$ to just chilling water try using that money on a phase unit...:D