Dman's new CPU E6400.. [Archive] - Overclockers Forums

deathman20

11-18-06, 11:10 PM

Well lets start this off. I decided to try my luck with a E6400 and give it a whirl.

11/18/06 10:40PM
It’s a SL9S9, L330A378 chip VID is 1.325 (same VID as my E6600) Temps are warm currently with default clock/1.3V in windows.

11/18/06 10:50PM
Anyways to start it off going to take her up to a mild 3.0Ghz clock with 1.275V (1.224V Windows) If this works its already better (by .025) at least for this initial run on the CPU.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9613/e640030ghzlp8.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e640030ghzlp8.jpg)

She's running slightly warmer currently so gotta wait til the AS5 settles in more or think about a remount. Not bad start so far.

Edit: now look at page 2 for even the newer E6400 chip ;)

xTrEmEoVrClOcKr

11-18-06, 11:24 PM

Good start / nice chip. Push it a little more, I'm sure it'll take it ;).

drshivas

11-18-06, 11:37 PM

Good start. What MB and memory? I just finished my e6400 OC- details in my sig.

DavidJa

11-18-06, 11:54 PM

what cooler are you using same as in your sig?

deathman20

11-18-06, 11:59 PM

All information in my sig is what im using. Im just replacing my E6600.

I did just try for 3.2Ghz with 1.275, 1.3 and 1.325 with a no go fail right away with upped voltages on the NB (which it shouldn't need til at least 500FSB from 1.45V) and FSB Term and SB as well. No go. I'll have to investigate this tomorrow, and probably just update my bios at that time as well to the latest version.

Gotta let my comp finish rebuilding my raid :) So i'll just play it safe with my 3.0Ghz thats at least 30min prime stable that I tested earlier we'll just make it a nice 8 hours hopfully lasting through the night.

deathman20

11-19-06, 12:01 AM

Good start. What MB and memory? I just finished my e6400 OC- details in my sig.

What voltage you givin your chip?

I know im starting off slower on this one, well mainly due to my raid being rebuilt but anyways, last chip I took her all the way up to 1.5V right out of the box after installation hehe. This one I think i'll enjoy a little and overclock it a little slower.

drshivas

11-19-06, 12:16 AM

In the bios, my vcore is set @ 1.5375. CPU-Z and ASUS Probe show it as 1.41-1.42 under load (2x instances of Folding). My board has a big case of voltage droop. Anandtech noted that too about the P5B-E.

deathman20

11-19-06, 08:13 AM

Passed my 8 hour mark prime stable.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5819/e640030ghzprime8hoursvg0.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e640030ghzprime8hoursvg0.jpg)

So that brings up the next few questions....
A) Look at reseating heatsink later today to get cooler temps since it should not be running nearly this hot (mid 40's if not lower truely)
B) Flash my bios to latest rev and try the OC again.

Rattle

11-19-06, 08:43 AM

yeah I like 8 hours min too in orthos

deathman20

11-19-06, 09:26 AM

Well for some stupid reason last night I couldn't get 3.2Ghz with 1.325V, today after my bios flash its working perfectly. Totally confused but hey its workin, better then 1 second that it did before lol.

dominick32

11-19-06, 10:17 AM

Dman.
May I ask why you downgraded from E6600??? Did you notice a performance hit in any games/benchies?

deathman20

11-19-06, 10:30 AM

Wanted to play a little more :)

Haven't tried any benchies yet still playing with the clock and really trying to figure out whats truely killing my clock which im still really confused about currently. I think its my northbridge is getting to warm, but yet my CPU is also runing warm as well.

I mean heres some wierd results...

Vcore is 1.4V and running 3.4Ghz

NB at the following voltages...
1.55V orthos dies within a second or 2
1.45V orthos dies within 10-30 seconds
1.25V orthos dies within 15-56 seconds

I know it was clocking fine at the higher voltage of 1.425 it was running orthos well. Just seems odd besides the fact im idling warm in the mid to upper 40's. Think its time to rip the mobo out and really clean that NB cooler heatsink off.

deathman20

11-19-06, 01:01 PM

Well redid the cooling on it. Not really any sure its better on the load, still seems to hit the same temps, idle thats a different story that dropped quiet a bit from high 40's to low 40's.

NB also got a nice little shine job as well removing the old crap that originaly came with it and put nice new AS5 on it. Also dropped a 60mm AMD Heatsink fan on top of it (smallest one I had). So hopfully that will help.

Results soo far for 3.4Ghz, all voltage is bios setting.

1.4V.. orthos lasted for a whole 4min and was pretty constant on retrying orthos as well. NB voltage was 1.25 and 1.45V during test.

1.4125V.. orthos was a good 20min in, then had a reboot. Not 100% sure what happened but it was going well.

Trying 1.425V right now just to see if my last glitch was a voltage issue. Hopfully it wasn't but if it was thats the strangest on i've had.

Rather intresting so far its a little different OC then what my E6600 did, stranger results at least but I do have to say I am running a beta of Vista currently as well so some results might be mixed.

dylskee

11-19-06, 01:10 PM

Yeah, I had similar results with my E6600 also. I got poor clocks with my sig setup, my max clock was about 3.GHz completely stable. That was months ago, I set everything back to stock a while ago and forgot about it, so yesterday I decide to crank it back up. All Bios settings are set to Auto except the Vcore and memory voltage. I'm currently running about 15 hours orthos stable @3.4GHz 1.512 Vcore and 2.3V on the memory. I'm pretty sure I tried playing with all the settings and still hit a wall @3.0~3.1GHz. Not sure why I can suddenly hit 3.4GHz?. Temps were never an issue, always ran nice and cool.

deathman20

11-19-06, 01:15 PM

Well I was doing 3.4Ghz before easily so I think as long as it primes here at 1.425V I'll keep it here for main speed. Until next weekend ;)

Then I'll ramp up the clocks some more (unless i get bored during the week hehe). 3.6 will be easy, and if the ramp is as it is currently might beable to hit 3.7-3.8Ghz without to much problem, only thing will hold me back is high temp.

dylskee

11-19-06, 01:32 PM

Were you able to achieve higher clocks on the E6600 with higher Vcore? It didn't seem to matter much in my case, I hit a wall and couldn't get past it no matter what voltages I gave it. My temps never exceed 50c running orthos so I know its not a heat issue.

deathman20

11-19-06, 01:38 PM

Hmmm na my E6600 could hit 3.6 with 1.625V, 3.5 with 1.55V, 3.465 with 1.525V, 3.4 with 1.5V. This was all within 50-60C under load.

This just seems warmer on my system so I think the heatsink is convex this time. THe edges of the IHS looked different from what I saw on my E6600. Unless they changed the design on it, it just lookd different with a chafed edge around everything but the corners.

deathman20

11-20-06, 07:38 AM

Well was playing around yesterday I think 3.4Ghz is stable with 1.425V I have to restest it (1.4125V crapps out after about 2 hours).

But did this last night to give it a whirl. 3.136Ghz w/ 1.325V bios.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3410/e64003136ghzprime11hournw2.th.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e64003136ghzprime11hournw2.jpg)

Stable. Temps are still warm and is really confusing me but oh well. Back up to 1.425V testing during the day when im at work.

As well side note, I will be lapping this IHS as well. Theres no way it should be running such a warm temp for these speeds if my E6600 did better temp wise.

deathman20

11-20-06, 11:54 AM

Ok was thinking this up at work (yup i was bored hehe). If my results are correct so to say and it scales as such on the CPU.

Currently this is board voltage is:

Ram: 2.25V (just to be safe and it can run yup to 485Mhz say at this voltage)
FSBTerm: 1.3V
NB: 1.25V
SB: 1.5V
ICH: 1.0575V

Actual results so far.
1.275V, 3000Mhz, 8x375
1.325V, 3136Mhz, 8x392 (was aiming for 3152 but for some reason didn't notice it til this morning that I didn't have the FSB up high enough for that oops)
1.425V, 3400Mhz, 8x425

Guestimated Results on current figures.
1.4375V, 429.824688Mhz, 8x428.7280859FSB
1.45V, 3464.72425Mhz, 8x433.0905313FSB
1.4625V, 3499.711313Mhz, 8x437.4639141FSB
1.475V, 3534.785875Mhz, 8x441.8482344FSB
1.4875V, 3569.947938Mhz, 8x446.2434922FSB
1.5V, 3605.1975Mhz, 8x450.6496875FSB
1.5125V, 3640.534563Mhz, 8x455.0668203FSB
1.525V, 3675.959125Mhz, 8x459.4948906FSB
1.5375V, 3711.471188Mhz, 8x463.9338984FSB
1.55V, 3747.07075Mhz, 8x468.3838438FSB
1.5625V, 3782.757813Mhz, 8x472.8447266FSB
1.575V, 3818.532375Mhz, 8x477.3165469FSB
1.5875V, 3854.394438Mhz, 8x481.7993047FSB
1.6V, 3890.344Mhz, 8x486.293FSB
1.6125V, 3926.381063Mhz, 8x490.7976328FSB
1.625V, 3962.505625Mhz, 8x495.3132031FSB
1.6375V, 3998.717688Mhz, 8x499.8397109FSB
1.65V, 4035.01725Mhz, 8x504.3771563FSB
1.6625V, 4071.404313Mhz, 8x508.9255391FSB
1.675V, 4107.878875Mhz, 8x513.4848594FSB

My guess is right around 1.475V at my current temps i'll hit the 60C mark under full load. But I really think my IHS is warped badly since the temps I'm getting right now, is nearly 10C hotter then at a higher voltages and same speed. So my real results and guesimation results might be off slightly as well til I get a chance to sand her down the IHS to a nice flat surface. Let alone stock speed temps where considerably higher then I'd say what is acceptable.

I am testing 3.4Ghz at home currently at the rated speed, should it go i'll go for 3.6 and see if my gustimations are actually correct for speed.

deathman20

11-20-06, 09:30 PM

Well for some reason, don't know why but my system just does a reboot (did it like 30min after I went to work today) when it did the 3.4Ghz test @ 1.425V, wierd.

Anyways with that being done I deciede to lap the sucker. Looking at a 2-3C drop in temp on the high end and idle 3C. For some reason, I just don't understand this, why its running actually hotter then my E6600. Can anyone thing why that would be? I mean its not going to drop 5C during AS5 break in im sorry I never really noticed any drop in temp with AS5 breaking in.

Edit: Testing 3.3Ghz currently 30min into test 1.375V and 54C temp. Its only running oh 5-6C warmer then my E6600. Anyone have a suggestion to why is that?

deathman20

11-21-06, 08:41 AM

Well 3.3 stopped after nearly 4 hours last night with 1.375V. Trying it at 1.3875 when im at work today.

Tried a few things this morning though, and 2 of them let to a full reboot of the system. I really thing Vista is "screwing" with me with testing stability in some form or another. What would cause a system reboot. For instance there cases...

3.4Ghz w/ 1.4V (orthos fails)
3.4Ghz w/ 1.4125V (orthos fails)
3.4Ghz w/ 1.425V (system reboot sooner then when orthos fails under 1.4125V)
3.6Ghz w/ 1.5V (system reboot) I just gave it a whirl this morning for fun

Could use some insite into this one guys.

greenmaji

11-21-06, 09:18 AM

Have you tested your Vdroop with DMM?
Try memtest..
Whats are your other voltage settings?
Have you tryed bumping the SB voltage a little?

Try dual PCmark04 for stablity testing, all that orthose would drive me nuts :p

have you checked your HS mount?

Ya got to give a little more info DMAN ;)

deathman20

11-21-06, 10:29 AM

Vdroop is .05V under load. I tested it again to make sure I wasn't nuts and nearly fried the board (shorted connections on the board the first time nearly a month ago).

Memtest I haven't memtest yet. By any chance got a link for the CD version on that? I could just take memory out of the equasion and ramp up my timings at least. I've had it running 485Mhz though with 2.25V with my E6600 so I know its good at high speed but guess better safe then sorry for testing to make sure i eliminate that.

One thing I didn't try was bumping the SB voltage any yet.

Why dual PCMark04? Why not just PCMark05? I haven't tried that yet gotta redownload it since i didn't put that on my backup drive when it crapped out.

Heatsink is definatly mounted good. 5 times 3 different configs on fans in the area (going to go back to my original one I had before on my E6600 when i first started). Besides that I lapped it temps dropped slightly so I know im getting good contact on the heatsink.

More info.... Ram as said running 4-4-4-12 30-10-10-10 if not mistaken are the other settings in the bios. I've never formally tested the ram, hate not being inside windows ;)

I haven't played with is SB if not mistaken. Its been sitting at 1.5. I have used 1.6V in it at one time but not on E6400.

ICH I've used both 1.0575 and 1.2V one to no new results (BTW what does this one even do?)

FSBTerm. 1.3V I haven't moved it from that but starting to think 1.4V might be a thing to try next some have said it increases stability.

NB, funny thing on this one. Normally i've had it at 1.45V, it lasts longer in orthos at 1.25V and definatly a very short time with 1.55V. I'm totally confused on this one. I do have cooling in the area now but it just doesn't make scene. I'll have to touch it when I get home to really feel the temp, maybe when I remounted it, it didn't make the best contact but it hasn't improved or decreased preformance since I remounted it.

CPU voltage self explanitory ;)

The PCI-E bus I've played with 100-105 nothing. Truely think going to put ti back to 100 again since I haven't seen much of any results even in benchmarks with it.

greenmaji

11-21-06, 10:58 AM

http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.2.iso.zip

If you already have PCmark05 dl'd use that :)

Vdimm? :p

30 seems louse for Tras.. try 20 to low 20's (D9's can be picky about settings being too louse IE overvolting the ram)

ICH is NB to SB Voltage IIRC (don't quote me on that) and no I havn't seen it help anyone on an Asus board. Abit on the other hand, different story.

Check your NB cooling (if it still has the stock TIM consider AS5 or similar)

Ive seen SB bumped all the way up to 1.8 and it actually helped FSB in those instances.

Your probibly fine locking PCIe down at 100 even with your card single DX10 might benifit from a bump more IMHO.

Of course YMMV

HTH
btw.. thanks, after posting this I now feel like a certifiable geek :rolleyes: :p

deathman20

11-21-06, 11:10 AM

Tim on the NB cooler has been fully removed. Originally I had it on there and slapped some AS5 ontop of it since it wasn't making conncetion and it was a rock. Well took a damn coin to it the other day to clean it off. Reapplied and used it.

I said my vdimm ;) Its 2.25V currently (never had an issue with it) But intrestting about the tras i've had it at 30 so far and well no issues with the E6600, but i'll drop it tonight. I do typically use 2.15V for anything under 900Mhz though. As soon as it hits 980Mhz i need to go for higher V which I haven't put more then 2.25V into them. Mind you as well I do have 4 sticks, don't know if you seen anything with FSBTerm voltage helping 4 sticks of ram or not.

Would you recommend extra cooling for adding more voltage to the SB? I should have a 120mm fan blowing in that area after I move the fans again so at least its getting some decent airflow back to it.

ICH I'd agree, but normally i leave it at the 1.2V just to eliminate that extra equasion from it. I just play around with it at lower for S&G.

BTW Thx for the info Green

greenmaji

11-21-06, 01:37 PM

I would consider active cooling (a fan :p) at that Vdimm with four sticks in.

If you moved a fan from flowing on the SB, then thats always something you could try again :p

And if you have been playing with ram settings (timings and or voltage) and have had any lockups or reboots consider reimaging your OS and use memtest for playing with the ram.

Im inclined to think its going to be SB voltage (not enough), NB cooling or CPU cooling (your IHS is borked). Or a combintation of them.

deathman20

11-21-06, 06:41 PM

NB is activaly cooled already ;) as well the Vdimms aren't even warm to the touch and the chips are relatively cool as well (have a probe sitting next to them).

Got a fan on the SB again of course and will move the fan around a little for a better result in that area for airflow.

OS Reimage already done that since my last issue (a nice 40gig backup file).

Anyways I did get 3.3Ghz stable with 472Mhz on the ram (2.25V) as well lowered the TRD to 25 for now. Ran 1 hour of memtest passed no problems. Anyways heres a screeny of it. Bios voltage was 1.3875V on CPU... ICH was 1.2, FSBTerm 1.3, NB 1.45V, SB 1.5V.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2166/e640033ghzprime95hoursit9.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e640033ghzprime95hoursit9.jpg)

BTW I did try upping SB voltage to 1.7 and definat no go it locks the system up for some wierd reason. If anything 1.6V would be my option right now.

greenmaji

11-21-06, 07:05 PM

I'd memtest the ram at higher mhz (even drop the multi to 6 and ease up on Vcore to get those out of the equasion).
Run a single pass of Test 5 then go back and bump up the mhz again, once you get the mhz you want for your OC, run your hour of Test 5.
Then you can boot up Windows with Vcore to match (your estimations look pretty close to me) with your standard multi.
GL :)

bongopukerat

11-21-06, 07:37 PM

metloaf

11-22-06, 02:07 PM

deathman20

11-22-06, 02:56 PM

Well.... I didn't like the temps on my E6400 i just got, so feeling lucky I bought another. Testing her now 3.0Ghz w/ 1.275V bios, its running 10C cooler with room temp 2-3C warmer then when I was running the other. Future looks brighter for this chip. Its a L631A508 with a VID of 1.325V.

Booted her right up at 3.0Ghz fyi just from what I had setted before with my other CPU. So finally I can officially this CPU has never been officially booted at default clock... til I have to reset her or something :)

deathman20

11-22-06, 03:27 PM

And quick test here.... Screeny and moving up on the clock speed.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3909/newe640030ghz43minprimewc5.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newe640030ghz43minprimewc5.jpg)

Edit: Prelim tests showing already much better testing 3.2Ghz currently w/ 1.3325V. Only 44-45C, its 25C in room, and from my previous E6400, it was 20C in room and ran roughly 53-54C.

deathman20

11-22-06, 06:16 PM

I just installed my c2d 6400 last night and starting overclocking an hour ago. I'm at 3.2ghz.
I'm running prime95 and super pi at the same time and my temps (according to TAT) never go above 41c for either core. Should I keep pushing it? My memory is also pretty damn lose. 5-6-6-15

I'm also a noob. Does lowering the multiplier increase performance? Example: which is better?
3.2ghz Multiplier x8.0
3.2ghz multiplier x7.0

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/bongopukerat/cpuz.jpg

Antec P180
Asus p5b deluxe wifi
core 2 duo 6400 w/ Tuniq
corsair XMS 2x1gig

Sorry didn't respond to this post originally. What is that 1.3V Bios? Anyways i'd use you 8x multi and up the clock if the memroy can take it. I mean your at a pretty low temp if thats a TAT reading. When you say prime 95 and super pi at the same time is are you doing 2 instances of prime 95? If not i'd do that then test stability.

BTW my results moving up in the world 1.3375V worked for 3.2Ghz for more then 1 hour. Moved up the voltage and continued upward to 3.4Ghz with well playing with voltages here right now. I was using 1.45V NB but it eventually crapped out so now using 1.55V then added my NB fan to it again (since I rearranged my fans) its sitting 6-7C cooler according to the prop on the heatsink. SB is at 1.6V currently.

deathman20

11-23-06, 09:21 AM

Alrighty... Issues on the front.

The reboot messages I get is of course, CPU, motherboard, Powersuply or Ram related (according to MS).

Anyways heres my results thus far.

I did get 3.0Ghz stable tested..

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/1629/newe640030ghz85hourspriwi8.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newe640030ghz85hourspriwi8.jpg)

Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.275V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.25V, SB: 1.5V, ICH: 1.0575V

Moving on down to the next clock...
3.1Ghz and so far heres whats been tossed my way.

Unstable
Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.275V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.25V, SB: 1.5V, ICH: 1.0575V

Unstable
Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.3V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.25V, SB: 1.5V, ICH: 1.0575V

Unstable
Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.3V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.45V, SB: 1.6V, ICH: 1.215V

Testing
Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.3125V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.25V, SB: 1.5V, ICH: 1.0575V

Still trying to figure out this wierd error, thought maybe it was linked to my L2 cache since I had my E6600 in here first, fixed that and re-reconized the CPU's in the device config to read properly. Sometimes it just stops orthos still (if it fails quickly and even then sometimes not) and other times it will just give me the BSOD pointing back at the motherboard/ram/cpu/psu.

Both NB and SB are cooled nicely with temp probes on the heatsinks reading 34.5-36.5C on the NB and 36-38C on the SB. Definatly game for more suggestions since bumping even right now SB, NB or even ICH doesn't make a difference.

Rattle

11-23-06, 10:02 AM

ditch vista

deathman20

11-23-06, 10:07 AM

ditch vista

I'd do that if setting up XP wasn't such a pain in the ass for me getting the damn raid drivers installed. Since I have a little issue with that its very time consuming to even consider an XP install.

greenmaji

11-23-06, 12:37 PM

I'd do that if setting up XP wasn't such a pain in the ass for me getting the damn raid drivers installed. Since I have a little issue with that its very time consuming to even consider an XP install.

Check out unseen's slipstreaming thread.

*edit* here it is http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=486021 /edit

deathman20

11-23-06, 10:36 PM

Check out unseen's slipstreaming thread.

*edit* here it is http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=486021 /edit

I'll have to check that out.

BTW 3.3Ghz stable

Ram: 2.1V, CPU: 1.375V, FSBTerm: 1.3V, NB: 1.45V, SB: 1.6V, ICH: 1.215V

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4576/newe640033ghz13hoursprisf3.th.jpg (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newe640033ghz13hoursprisf3.jpg)

rainless

11-24-06, 04:05 AM

I wish you wouldn't use imageshack... too much spyware associated with their page (yeildmanager is always a good hint...) You could use photobucket or any number of other sites...

deathman20

11-24-06, 09:13 AM

Imageshack is the easiest site to use IMO and it doesn't put a nice limit that photobucket or alike to view the picture.

And what spyware? I have yet to come across any spyware from viewing pictures on there site or uploading for that matter.

Rattle

11-24-06, 09:15 AM

or you could just upload it here lol

nice chip

Jod

11-25-06, 06:31 AM

I had mad issues w/ floppy F6. Nlite hooked up the floppy drivers on a CD and worked like a charm. Xplode looks fun too...

GL on OC, my first P5B went up in smoke. :eek:

deathman20

11-25-06, 04:52 PM

Well haven't tried to push it any further and well finding out it is just a wierd issue being unstable and running orthos I'll live with it.

3.3Ghz is faster then what I was really running at before (3.2) with the occasional 3.4Ghz. Benchmark results basically dead on form what I can see (3Dmark06 that is compared to my E6600 chip. CPU mark scores a little higher then again im going 100Mhz faster but all other tests where right ontop of each other.

Now finally get a chacne to play some games and going to enjoy it for a bit then continue to OC :)

Rattle

11-25-06, 05:18 PM

I havnt had issues with floppy on either board, USB flash drive is easier tho

Jod

11-25-06, 06:38 PM

Now finally get a chacne to play some games and going to enjoy it for a bit then continue to OC :)

Same here bro. Don't care to game on a rig lest I see it's prime/orthos stable for 8hr min. Let it ride the other day and it hit 15 hours...killed it and jumped into Oblivion for the first time on the 8800...YUM!!!!

deathman20

11-25-06, 09:58 PM

Same here bro. Don't care to game on a rig lest I see it's prime/orthos stable for 8hr min. Let it ride the other day and it hit 15 hours...killed it and jumped into Oblivion for the first time on the 8800...YUM!!!!

Prime stable pssh I used PCMark05 sometimes if it ran i was good to game.

But works like a charm had to try out Oblivion again since last time I played it was with my 1800XL card, so much smoother and haven't even "tweaked" the ini file yet but of course just decided to start over.

Man have more mods come out since I played this shall be intresting with all the new texture tweeks woot.

Jod

11-26-06, 12:25 AM

Yeah, I haven't even messed w/ any mods. Got a couple good recs?

deathman20

11-26-06, 12:36 AM

Yeah, I haven't even messed w/ any mods. Got a couple good recs?

Don't know if I'd recommend them just started to use them and they looked good.

Book Placement (easier to place books on shelves)
Book Jacets Oblivion High (high res books so you can read them)
Modular Oblivion Enhanced (adds a bunch of stuff)
Potions Recolored (different potion colors so its easier to pick out and slight glow added for night time)

Then the big mods lots of revamped textures

Qarl's Better Tiling
Qarl's Parallaxed Textures
Qarl's Parallaxed Textures V1.1
Qarl's Texture Pack

Then as well adds more improvements, creatures, items, balances, etc

Francescos Optional New Items/Creatures
Francescos Leveled Creatures/Items Mod

In total added some 1.6gigs+ Gigs, all those files downloaded was ~1.28Gigs.

I started off by finding what was recommened by Fileplanet (editors choice mods) then in the readme's I got some of these other suggestions.

Anyways... Ya while it idles right in the low 40s, playing even oblivion if it hits 44-45C I'd be lucky.

Jod

11-26-06, 04:10 AM

My 6400@3.2/1.3250V hit 47C core temp in Oblivion w/ 26C Ambient. G80 got up to 79C w/ Auto fan. Orthos tops out at 53C. The Tuniq fan was replaced w/ an SFLEX E that puts out more air @ same noise level. Gotta have the quiet. :D

deathman20

11-30-06, 06:45 PM

Well for S&G I decided to go low voltage. Not all the way to the bottom but close.

1.15V @ 2.4Ghz. Been running orthos for nearly an hour. Idle Temp 29-30C and loads most of the time is around 34-35C and tips to 36C here and there.

Going to dabble around with some higher clocks i think tonight as well.

deathman20

11-30-06, 10:10 PM

Heres the results 4hours Orthos. Thats more then plenty expecially for such a low clock for me :) 2.4Ghz w/ 1.15V 750Mhz on memory running 4:5 ratio 2.1V. All voltage on everything else is bottomed out in the bios.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7876/3dmark06e640024ghz115vfb9.th.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark06e640024ghz115vfb9.jpg)

Neural Net

12-01-06, 02:59 AM

A very low clock deathman, but for sure beats my e6300 at the moment. 48 degrees C load at 2.27Ghz, can't wait to get that Ultra 120, the Scythe just refuses to mount steadily enough with those plastic pins. I'll start comparing my e6300 to your e6400 as soon as I get it. :)

What's the highest stable clock you've been able to get with your e6400?

deathman20

12-01-06, 08:59 AM

3.52Ghz seemed pretty stable last night orthos for 22min before failed at 1.475V so it will need ~1.4875V-1.5V. Man theres a huge jump in voltage needed after 3.3Ghz basically.

Tempature wise ran 54-56C. My guess under normal conditions it wouldn't be more then 50-51C.

deathman20

12-01-06, 09:23 AM

Well out of curiosity since working at home today because of bad weather, I decided to play a little with some testing.

I know back on my E6600 thread I posted my 3D Rendering time of a 3D Model I was working on back last year before I even got my AMD dual core rig.

Well you'll have to take into account a few things here. I'm running Vista on top of this. Which should cancel most of it out since I know there is a few running issues with 3D max and vista currently with the directX. (Edit Sorry i was using the same version in XP when I did the original test)

Anyways heres the old thread link
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4683268&postcount=2

If looking down at the bottom theres the 3DMark Test 3 it says 1min 23.1 seconds. Well with my current clock at 3.3Ghz, the test I just ran its 1min 23.6 as well as 1min 23.5 and 1min 23.6 seconds! I wanted to give it 3 run test and its consistant! I do have IE, and background apps open as well.

Going to do a quick reboot for similar clock speed differences and see what it gets for a time then.

deathman20

12-01-06, 09:56 AM

deathman20

12-01-06, 04:17 PM

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/332/3dmark06e64003464ghz146lh3.th.jpg (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark06e64003464ghz146lh3.jpg)

More info to follow shortly..

(Updated)

Another stable clock there, 6 hours seemed more then enough at that speed to test. Its good IMO.

2.15V Mem, 1.4625V Core, 1.3V Term, 1.45V NB, 1.6V SB, and 1.215V ICH. Temps where from 53-57 at its hottest with a 24C room temp. The 8-20k FFT's got it the warmest then it dropped off to 54-53C.

Decided to reboot and give it a try, doing 1.4375V right now and in 7min!! I'm shocked so far, since 3.4Ghz had issues with 1.425V itself crashing after say 2 hours, so well see what this brings. Currently temps are about 2C cooler then the higher voltage. And failed 17min in so really 1.4625V is the right voltage for it.

darkcow

12-01-06, 04:35 PM

As to continue with the post above I got as close to my results with my E6600 for speed wise (3465Mhz) right now at 3464Mhz. My results for this

1min 26.1sec (actually hit something when it did that test)
1min 20.5sec
1min 18.3sec
Did a restart to make sure everything was ok with it.
1min 25.0sec
1min 18.8sec
1min 18.6sec

Rather intresting results. This is much faster then me running XP and E6600 at the same speed nearly 6% faster. That seems very odd.

With this test running ~51-52C loaded in Max, with my 3.3Ghz result it was loading around 44-45C.

maybe its the fact that vista is running in x64 bit. because i didn't get any results like that comparing my e6400 with my e6600. the e6600 always beat the e6400.

(i've noticed significant performance increase from 32bit to 64bit even when im not running 64bit programs. it might not show it on artificial benchmarks, but in day to day life.. its a lot faster)

deathman20

12-01-06, 04:37 PM

maybe its the fact that vista is running in x64 bit. because i didn't get any results like that comparing my e6400 with my e6600. the e6600 always beat the e6400.

(i've noticed significant performance increase from 32bit to 64bit even when im not running 64bit programs. it might not show it on artificial benchmarks, but in day to day life.. its a lot faster)

Im running 32-bit not 64-bit.

I was running 64-bit in the past but alot of programs where having issues and some driver issues on my part but that was RC1 64-bit. Switched over to RC1 32-bit worked perfectly then upgrade to RC2. I'll wait til the release for the public to try 64-bit again. Truely I'd love to use it but I won't right now.

deathman20

12-01-06, 05:14 PM

deathman20

12-02-06, 10:48 PM

Never did show my case to anyone yet. Heres a pic of it. Going to try some new cable management tomorrow if I have the time.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9623/dsc00651kn6.th.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00651kn6.jpg)

warlock110

12-02-06, 11:48 PM

Heres some more results for ya.

Orange = My E6600 @ 3465Mhz
Red = My E6400 @ 3464Mhz

Sandra Tests
CPU Arithmetic Bench: 32,027 MIPS / 21,839 MFLOPS - 31,370 MIPS / 22,063 MFLOPS
CPU Multi-Media: 190,406 Integer / 103,082 Floating-Point - 191,574 Integer / 103,234 Floating-Point
Memory Bandwidth: 7,602 MB/s Int / 7,611 MB/s Float - 7,278 MB/s Int / 7,276 MB/s Float

Inpresive very close in Sandra scores.

that's pretty wierd.. but u do have a higher FSB on the E6400... it's almost 100FSB more on the E6400.. try and dump down the multipler on the E6600 and bump up the FSB... i bet u will get better scores :) however i'm not sure if u can do that with the E6600... i know u can change multiler on those 6800 but they're much more expensive.

deathman20

12-03-06, 12:02 AM

that's pretty wierd.. but u do have a higher FSB on the E6400... it's almost 100FSB more on the E6400.. try and dump down the multipler on the E6600 and bump up the FSB... i bet u will get better scores :) however i'm not sure if u can do that with the E6600... i know u can change multiler on those 6800 but they're much more expensive.

You can have the multi down on the 6600. Thats easy. But don't have the CPU anymore so can't test it. Then again im eyeing up an E6600 again lol, yes im crazy, im nuts and thank god my wife doesn't know about it :)

Edit: Second thought i got to stop buying stuff :) Need money for new video card early next year, and if I need a new CPU well you'll see this up in the for sale section soon enough.

warlock110

12-03-06, 10:48 AM

You can have the multi down on the 6600. Thats easy. But don't have the CPU anymore so can't test it. Then again im eyeing up an E6600 again lol, yes im crazy, im nuts and thank god my wife doesn't know about it :)

Edit: Second thought i got to stop buying stuff :) Need money for new video card early next year, and if I need a new CPU well you'll see this up in the for sale section soon enough.

it's addicting :)... my rig is up and running on monday when my ram arrives... those guys really know how to cut throat with their price when it comes to people like us... we're basically buying plastics for thousands of dollars (um silicon in case of CPU) look how much silicon people are getting for breast implant vs us... i think our are higher grades :)

deathman20

12-05-06, 07:23 AM

Rearanged some cooling in the case, only problem is I don't know if temps really even got better. I might just be limited because I'm only sucking in for the main section through a 120mm fan and exhausint out of 2. I'll have to take a picture of it going to play around a little more to see whats optimal at least on the HS since I have 2, yes 2 Sythce fans attached to it.

5x 120mm Sycthe fans
2x 120mm Antec fans that came with the case
1x 60mm AMD CPU Fan for the NB :)

So far load temp dropped 4-5C, but as well i cleaned up the case wiring quiet a bit as well its cooler in here by 2C right now.

deathman20

12-06-06, 12:40 PM

Doh forgot to post pics last night. I did manage to get my case all sorted out though. I did remove one of the fans that I had up there (i had 2 on the CPU heatsink pushing/pulling).

Temps at my speed now and what they where from, just focusing on load temp, idle is very similar.

Was: 55-57C Orthos
After cable reorginization.
Now w/ 2 Fans on CPU: 52-53C
Now w/ 1 Fan on CPU: 51-52C
Now w/ 1 Fan 7V exhaust/cpu fan: 54-55C

Either way its lower overall what ever way I want to swing the temps. I also was about to remove another fan also and heres the results I got on with that.

120mm fan that was over the video card/southbridge and I have a thermal probe stuck between the SB heatsink fins.

No Fan: 48-50C!!! after a few min idle
Fan 7V: 41C+ after a few min idle
Fan 12V: 33C with HDD's loaded and video card running strong.

Amazing the temp differences, only giving it 1.6V in bios not much at all and was mainly just to give it a little better stability just incase.

Layout from my pervious picture is similar. I have slightly better wire managment below in the PSU/HDD area, as well the fan is nearly flat instead of angled down there. This fan is running slower now (Med setting) its a fan I got with the case.

Above main motherboard power and PCI-E cable are tucked further back against the board, and running flatter to the bottom of the case. The 8-pin connector to the top, I ditched one of the plugs and put my extension on it. Ran it up along the front side of the case there up over the fan and into the plug. Zero differences in stability! I had used 4-pin prior and didn't gain anything with 8pin so I'll go back to a slightly better layout there. As well sound card I put into the bottom PCI slot, slightly better airflow between the GPU.

I still wish I could get the fan in the lower compartment in its fan holder but oh well maybe if i putz with the power cables to the HDD's a bit more it might fit but it would be close to the fan itself so who knows, I'd definatly need a guard on it.

Neural Net

12-06-06, 01:50 PM

Very nice. Currently I'm running my e6300 at about 49 degrees load at 3.05Ghz. The front intake fan isn't really cutting it, think I'm getting low pressure in the case. Nice reduction in temps there.

Thankfully temps for me aren't an issue anymore, but the RAM doesn't want to seem to go much higher. I'm have to run memtest at somepoint trying out different speeds and latencies.

deathman20

12-06-06, 09:32 PM

And case pics with the improved cooling... These will be moved over into my new thread I'll fire up soon ;) X-Mas supprise mwahahah

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1972/dsc00652ce1.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00652ce1.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/777/dsc00653xn8.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00653xn8.jpg)http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5227/dsc00654qv3.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00654qv3.jpg)

Jod

12-06-06, 11:09 PM

No wonder it was hot, you're in a P180.

deathman20

12-06-06, 11:22 PM

I wouldn't call it hot from what others are getting temp wise which is usually in the upper 50's to low 60's it seems.

Neural Net

12-07-06, 03:40 AM

No wonder it was hot, you're in a P180.

I thought P180s were supposedly very good for cooling?!

Jod

12-08-06, 02:59 AM

I wouldn't call it hot from what others are getting temp wise which is usually in the upper 50's to low 60's it seems.
But now you've got a 120 gangbang up there. :beer:

I thought P180s were supposedly very good for cooling?!
It's relative. Compared to quite a few midtowers out there, it's top notch. But it just doesn't provide the flow a Stacker can deliver. The Stacker let me use quieter fans than the Antecs on Med and gave temps much cooler. My 3 HDD's used to idle @ 37-40C. in the P180 w/ fan on Med. W/ the Stacker, they're @ 25-28C.

If I were to build a non oced, non gaming rig, it'd be the P180 hands down. It's got the potential to be stupid silent. :) That and it looks much better than the Stackers if you get it in black. :D:D

Neural Net

12-08-06, 06:59 AM

But now you've got a 120 gangbang up there. :beer:

It's relative. Compared to quite a few midtowers out there, it's top notch. But it just doesn't provide the flow a Stacker can deliver. The Stacker let me use quieter fans than the Antecs on Med and gave temps much cooler. My 3 HDD's used to idle @ 37-40C. in the P180 w/ fan on Med. W/ the Stacker, they're @ 25-28C.

If I were to build a non oced, non gaming rig, it'd be the P180 hands down. It's got the potential to be stupid silent. :) That and it looks much better than the Stackers if you get it in black. :D:D

Ah interesting, as I was going to buy a P180 but it was slightly too expensive for my budget. Now got a Xion II case which is alright, but I have to replace the two intake fans as they're not really up to the job, although my 3Ghz e6300 is running at 48/49 under load. :)

deathman20

12-08-06, 07:25 AM

But now you've got a 120 gangbang up there. :beer:

It's relative. Compared to quite a few midtowers out there, it's top notch. But it just doesn't provide the flow a Stacker can deliver. The Stacker let me use quieter fans than the Antecs on Med and gave temps much cooler. My 3 HDD's used to idle @ 37-40C. in the P180 w/ fan on Med. W/ the Stacker, they're @ 25-28C.

If I were to build a non oced, non gaming rig, it'd be the P180 hands down. It's got the potential to be stupid silent. :) That and it looks much better than the Stackers if you get it in black. :D:D

Its my top compartment that has the 120's really and the CPU only has 1 again (very little gain putting a second fan ontop of it. Really I mean yes I do know its running but I really can't tell my damn X1900XT is so loud even really idling its hard to say exactly where the noise is coming from. And I know the antec fans it comes with is definatly noise on high, but i got 1 on med thats it rest are sycthe fans.

Neural Net

12-08-06, 07:45 AM

Its my top compartment that has the 120's really and the CPU only has 1 again (very little gain putting a second fan ontop of it. Really I mean yes I do know its running but I really can't tell my damn X1900XT is so loud even really idling its hard to say exactly where the noise is coming from. And I know the antec fans it comes with is definatly noise on high, but i got 1 on med thats it rest are sycthe fans.

Wish there was more space for fans in my setup, there's only (officially) space for one 80mm and 2 120mm fans. I may however attempt to fit a 80mm fan to blow out air through the vacant PCI slots just below my graphics card to improve the GPUs temps a bit. I think I'll have to get the front 120mm and side 80mm fans replaced with better ones though before I do that.

What do you reckon?

deathman20

12-08-06, 08:24 AM

Wish there was more space for fans in my setup, there's only (officially) space for one 80mm and 2 120mm fans. I may however attempt to fit a 80mm fan to blow out air through the vacant PCI slots just below my graphics card to improve the GPUs temps a bit. I think I'll have to get the front 120mm and side 80mm fans replaced with better ones though before I do that.

What do you reckon?

I reckon get on MSN its been a few days.

Neural Net

12-08-06, 09:59 AM

I reckon get on MSN its been a few days.

True true.:beer:

Jod

12-08-06, 12:26 PM

...but I really can't tell my damn X1900XT is so loud even really idling its hard to say exactly where the noise is coming from.
Hands down, worst pc noise ever. It's just that damn whine from the housing used. But there's options...I've had an Accelero and a Thermalright HR-03. Both of which silenced Mr. Sonic Engine. :)

Neural Net

12-08-06, 12:44 PM

The noise from my MSI 7900GTO is really loud as well. Thought the case was going to take off or something. :beer:

deathman20

12-08-06, 01:02 PM

Hands down, worst pc noise ever. It's just that damn whine from the housing used. But there's options...I've had an Accelero and a Thermalright HR-03. Both of which silenced Mr. Sonic Engine. :)

Ya I was but decided no due to upgrading when the new ATI GPU's come out. I can live another 1-2 months if I've lived 6 if not mistaken so far.

deathman20

12-11-06, 10:55 AM

Well some more updates on my chip and setup. When I was ordering some X-Mas gifts I got a E6600 by accident (my fault). Well of course couldn't resist so plugged it in and tried it out to hope and pray that maybe I got a good one. Errr wrong answer, its not horrible but then again its not the best as well. Well started doing some comparison tests in my 3D renderings.

While the E6600 was .5 second faster at inital rendering (getting the main light calcs) future renderings on it was 1-2 seconds SLOWER then my E6400 at the same speed, FSB, (nearly same CPU voltage) etc. I was baffeled again. I did have screens but my raid 5 failed (damnit) so there went those pics. Anyways looking back at it now maybe my motherboard is the main issue to why the E6600 for some odd reason was running slower.

Well I decided to check more temps on the mobo to see if it was overheating anywhere. I placed theraml probes all over the board in areas where there was power. Mofets where good and damn cool for no air flow (under 35C), Ram perfectly fine (bearly warm to the touch), NB Low to Mid 30's with a small 60mm fan blowing over it + a 120mm fan helping feed air in the area. Now the southbridge, this shocked me at first (on a note this didn't help stability or speeds) stock voltage on the SB with no air directly blowing on it the heatsink itself was hitting 50C. Damn thing was very hot to the touch, of course I had a fan in the area most of the time but I didn't to see what it would do affecting temps but I put my 120mm in the area and it dropped instantly to low 30's. Shows you how easy it was to cool but also how either crappy the heatsink is or the lack of airflow typically there is on that spot of the board.

Second thing I noticed as well I was getting a 8C increase in temps. The IHS looked fine on the E6600 so it wasn't that, contact on the HS was great. Well then of course thinking it does have 2meg more of L2 to power, as well as it might not have the best contact with the IHS. Ignoring that there was no way I could run 3.6Ghz in my rig (i want sub 60C) without it hitting into the mid to upper 60's. Oh well I moved on.

But before I switched out my chip and went back to the E6400, of course my RAID 5 failed again, and it wasn't a rebuild fail it was a total failure. Doh so there went all my pictures I had from OC tests again. Now im just running the drives as single drives til I decide what to do when Vista comes out. This might be a question for the storage section but can you hot swap SATA drive's power? I know the SATA cable is suppositly hotswap but I was thinking of adding a switch for the power of the HDD so I can more or less just plug it in when I was a backup and turn it off otherwise. Similar to an external drive but yet I want it to be all internally enclosed any suggestions? What I plan to do with my 2 other drives when I reinstall for the final release of Vista have a 100gig or so partition for my main programs and the rest I'll probably just leave unraided for storage. I have no idea why I have so many issues every time I try raiding I seem to get failed raids.

greenmaji

12-11-06, 11:21 AM

deathman20

12-11-06, 12:03 PM

Run checkdisks on drives before putting them in raid configs, errors or bad sectors are fine for runing a drive by itself, but too many in Raid5 you'll have problems.

ram subtimings in the bios should help with :burn: just bump the vdimm up a little

Well it was first Raid0, then Raid5 but only on the back half of the disks and even then I was bearly using 120Gig out of the 600+ I had to start with. I'll have to run a disk check. Was trying to run smart well figured out it wouldn't do it to RAIDed drives *duh* but as well it wouldn't run in Vista. Maybe I can find a newer version of it out now. Oh and I'd only get a curruption, figure this one out, when I was playing Quicktime movie and even then the install nor the movie file was on the hard

My timings in the bios are if not mistaken how it goes down the list. I haven't tweaked them yet at least not to anything faster til I finish OCing my CPU :) Currently just running 3.0Ghz just because well it might be slow but is surely quiet fast, gotta play around with all my nice speeds :)
4-4-4-12-4-20-10-10-10-10

deathman20

12-11-06, 11:25 PM

Well got a sector checker (Stellar Smart) besides it does other things but working on checking my drives going to take a while but at least the system is in operation when checking. Should finish my first drive here in the next 30min and beable to do the second drive over night.

Oh ya side note lucky me got a evaluation copy of Vista RTM from the IT guys at my work :) WOOT. They knew I was testing it so here I am got it up and running (just upgraded from RC1). And what can I say im amazed CPU usage dropped DRASTICALY!!! from RC1 or RC2 even instead of using 10-15% of the CPU idling its using if 2-4% with IE, a harddrive checker, burner, IMs and downloading. Ram usage is still ~ the same from what I can tell.

Oh and I finally decided to weigh my case if anyone was curious to what a system like this weighs. *Drum roll* 47.8lbs, and a good portion of that is my case I know that for a fact.

Also added note I did order a hotswap bay for one of my HDD's so hopfully that will be hear a little later this week. Oh joy more cable management to putz with.

deathman20

12-13-06, 09:31 PM

Update... All drives passed, all sectors on the HDD's are great. Everything in SMART is OK and drives don't even break 40C. Only thing thats sort of concern is some of the percentages, but if some of thats taken from when I was having issues I can totally understand that then.

deathman20

12-18-06, 11:19 PM

Heres an update :)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/951/e64003760ghz1575vbenchys3.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e64003760ghz1575vbenchys3.jpg)

Impressed here just stuck it with 1.575V booted and ran tests flawlessly in Vista RTM 3.76Ghz :) Idling at 46-48C. Think im going to up the juice in a few seconds and hit 4Ghz. I want into the club :)

Update: 4Ghz unsuccessful. Going to play around to see what I can pull off here tried a few settings and just wanted to see if it would be an easy push guess not.

Any suggestions? As well with the board whats the max volts before it doesn't supply enough voltage? I know someone told me giving it 1.7V and it definatly wasn't supplying anything near that. Settings I shoved into it....

Ram: 2.35V (just decided to up the juice just to be safe 2.25V is stable for 481Mhz)
FSB Term: 1.3V (giving maybe 1.4V?)
VCore: 1.675V (also 1.65V just incase)
NB: 1.45, 1.55, 1.65V (Note my 3760Mhz clock was with just 1.45V and was at least bootable into windows I shouldn't expect to use more then really 1.55V truthfully).
SB: 1.6V (never have tried higher, yet)
ICH: 1.215V

amenx

12-19-06, 10:53 AM

deathman20

12-19-06, 03:00 PM

Re case cooling, the best are cases with exhaust fans on top which take advantage of the hot air rising principle. And all you need is 2 fans in your case, one in the rear and one on top. This arrangement (vs the 2 intake, one exhaust I had before) brought down my case temps by 7-8 degrees.

Adding more fans to your case will not necessarily help, in fact it may hinder proper airflow. Check out this article on fan placement tests and case cooling:

http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=230

:beer:

Well in my case so far adding fans does help cooling (more or less like doubling up on the heatsink and such) but theres no other spot I can even think of adding another fan if I even wanted too. I need more air input into the case if anything.

I have the 3 main case fans in the top half and 1 below for the HDD's. 1 On the CPU, 1 hovering over video card, SB, NB for more cooling and a small one on the NB as well. If I remove the 2 fans the SB jumps from 30 to 50C and the NB jumps from mid 30's to mid-upper 40's.

deathman20

12-19-06, 08:14 PM

Well for the quest of more speed unsuccessful :(

I booted into windows very breafly at 3.84Ghz (8x480) with the following...

Ram: 2.25V
FSB Term: 1.3V
VCore: 1.625V
NB: 1.45,
SB: 1.6V
ICH: 1.215V

Retried up to the following
Ram: 2.25V
FSB Term: 1.3V, 1.4V
VCore: 1.625V, 1.65V
NB: 1.55V , 1.55V
SB: 1.6V , 1.7V
ICH: 1.215V

All fail, first got partially through load of windows, second had issues in the bios of even thinking of loading :( I also removed 2 sticks of ram just to see if that would help a no go. DOH

Seems like cranking up the voltage is doing worse, yet I need it what a counter productive issue.

BMac420

12-20-06, 10:31 AM

deathman20

12-20-06, 10:58 AM

kind of off topic, but have you run into any ati or asus driver issues with Vista? i have the full RTM but haven't installed it because i'm worried some drivers may be flaky and also software compatibility issues. run into any of these?

EDIT: also why is it that your 3.7 ghz doing superpi 1m in 16.13, thats about what my e6600 did at 3.2 and it does 14.5 at 3.6 (mine were all ran with all software installed not just a clean os). is that the L2 cache difference?

Only thing I had to install to get my computer running properly that wasn't included with the RTM.

1) ATI Beta Vista Driver Release 2
2) Soundblaster Beta Driver Release
3) Updated (beta if not mistaken) driver for the network card

Thats it otherwise it was up and running.

As for SuperPI, why its slow. First its 2megs less cache, second its Vista. There are so many services running in the background its not funny. Its just like my best 3D Mark I was getting 400-500 points less at the same speed in XP Pro. And since Vista scores low and I live with it in that respect anymore. Can just hope for updates, and fixes to improve preformance some more, oh ya and tweaks, can't forget the tweaks. I'm not going to try to tweak it til I get my actual retail release.

BMac420

12-20-06, 11:13 AM

hmmm didn't know vista ran that much slower, i think i'll workout a dual boot thing and see how i like vista before upgrading completely. thanks for the info!

deathman20

12-20-06, 11:28 AM

hmmm didn't know vista ran that much slower, i think i'll workout a dual boot thing and see how i like vista before upgrading completely. thanks for the info!

Game wise and actual non benching software it seems to work better though. Some games are actually faster then in XP as well. Mind you this is beta video drivers and last I checked any major games was on RC2.

If you can dual boot is nice if you want to mess with it. Me personal I'll just make the switch and just put a commit in saying its been done under Vista.

jtjuska

12-20-06, 11:33 AM

I am with ya DMan, I will be going over to Vista because I personally like it better than XP and I am only running RC1. I am really pumped to get my DX10 GPU and Vista ultimate!

~jtjuska

deathman20

12-20-06, 12:09 PM

I am with ya DMan, I will be going over to Vista because I personally like it better than XP and I am only running RC1. I am really pumped to get my DX10 GPU and Vista ultimate!

~jtjuska

Indeed...

Soo anyone have any suggestiosn on my post back a page?

http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4844328&postcount=85
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4845681&postcount=88

Still wondering what is the issue with going higher sicne I can't seem to pin it exactly whats holding it back.

jtjuska

12-20-06, 01:04 PM

If you already said this I apologize, but whats the highest FSB that your board is known good at... maybe drop the multi and jack the FSB to see what its good for.

~jtjuska

deathman20

12-20-06, 01:35 PM

If you already said this I apologize, but whats the highest FSB that your board is known good at... maybe drop the multi and jack the FSB to see what its good for.

~jtjuska

Na haven't tried it yet, all I want is maybe a little more then 500FSB just to make it certain to break the 4Ghz barrier if thats possible. I'll try that if I get a chance tonight.

jtjuska

12-21-06, 03:00 PM

Any updates on the 500 FSB???

~jtjuska

deathman20

12-21-06, 04:12 PM

Any updates on the 500 FSB???

~jtjuska

Na not yet didn't get a chacne to play with it last night. Tonight *crosses fingers* Results would come in around 10pm CST.

jtjuska

12-21-06, 06:22 PM

Na not yet didn't get a chacne to play with it last night. Tonight *crosses fingers* Results would come in around 10pm CST.

Ill be waiting... lol ;)

~jtjuska

MadMan007

12-21-06, 11:19 PM

deathman20

12-22-06, 06:43 AM

No idea, you've tweaked it more than most people would have.

I was wondering though, regarding your RAID errors and rebuilds, what do you think those are from? Just general 'too high CPU overclocks,' and if so did it rebuild successfully? I got the P5B-D specifically to set up a Matrix Raid 0/5 for eventual media server uses but if the Raid is that sketchy :-/

Not sure if it was high OC's or what not but its screwy. I've checked my drive for errors, and there all OK (just to see if it was a bad sector). But everytime a raid failed it was with quicktime in Vista when it was loading. If I didn't notice it quick enough (as in doing a hard restart) something happened, either it was flawless restart by Vista, or I was able to kill it. I'm 2 for 6 on that. 1 Raid 0 failed and 2 Raid 5 failed for a rebuilt and 1 Raid 5 totally failed.

BTW Grr damn thing I didn't get a chacne was out celebrating last night, tonight doesn't look much better. Might not get a chance before the holiday now to try the 500 FSB.

deathman20

12-23-06, 12:59 AM

Ok had to post this after I got my new drivers installed and was able to run 3D mark 06 :) Much better results there coming up on preformance very very close to XP Pro in benchmarks.

My E6400 Currently New Drivers for Vista: 6491
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=831809

E6600 Running in XP Pro: 6605
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=570003

E6400 Running Vista RTM Beta 2 Drivers: 6240
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=696760

Nearly neck and neck in preformance! But I don't know what the Vista RTM drivers are based off of. The XP Pro should of been 6.10 Drivers.

Ok got that working, and tomorrow should try the 500FSB thing. I just had to fix my issue in Vista had to do a backup recovery and seemed to work so im happy.

greenmaji

12-23-06, 01:16 AM

You might want to PM bing about the rebuilds.. its a fail safe measure with the matrix raid drivers now to rebuild after certian events.

If your still questing for 4Ghz.. I would recomend running 2gigs of ram and bumping up the SB to 1.8V and see if that helps. Mid. 1.6'sVcore after droop is all that should be needed.

btw DMAN this thread is getting out of hand :p :sn:

deathman20

12-23-06, 01:26 AM

You might want to PM bing about the rebuilds.. its a fail safe measure with the matrix raid drivers now to rebuild after certian events.

Ya I figured that, and if not mistaken I've seen his thread but I'll ask him that since I'll go back to Matrix Raid again after I get my version.

If your still questing for 4Ghz.. I would recomend running 2gigs of ram and bumping up the SB to 1.8V and see if that helps. Mid. 1.6'sVcore after droop is all that should be needed.

Ya im going to try the 500FSB to make sure at least it will go, then I'll step my way up and really see whats going on and why its not breaking the threshold. I got all next week on vacation :) so I should have some time inbetween some gaming hehe.

btw DMAN this thread is getting out of hand :p :sn:

Thread outta hand? Na :)

deathman20

12-24-06, 12:22 AM

Well tried 500FSB using the 7x multi (no go)
Tried 490FSB using 7x multi (no go)

I was able to boot into windows with 480FSB (3.84Ghz) I didn't do any tests with it but that was a one boot wonder. I restarted and had to reset the bios to do anything.

And adding more volts to the chipsets did nothing :( from my 470Mhz (1.45V NB and 1.6V SB) all the way up to (1.65V NB and 1.8V NB) for 480Mhz. It didn't seem to add any benifit to loading since I was able to 2 seperate occasions boot into windows with 1.45V NB and 1.55V NB both with the exact same end result. BTW This was using 2Gigs of ram using both slots to make sure.

Wonder if a bios update will help, I'll have to check around to see if theres a better bios out there.