VapoChill.... How is it & How much?

[Joeteck]

As most of you people know by now, Cooling you CPU via FANS is the only practical way of cooling, which is my outlook. But I just started to look at this vapochill concept.

I need to know if anyone has it, and if so where did you get it.

Plus, how well it works to warrant a high price tag.


-Joeteck

[flounder43]

I think that a lot of people here would tell you that water cooling is also very practical...

Vapochill is expensive, look at it here: www.vapochill.com.

I believe that The Doctor has one...They work well from what I have heard.

[nikhsub1]

Except the main place that sells them will no longer sell the socket A version! They say too many Athlons have been cracked with the piece that attaches to the CPU. Oh well... maybe Vapochill will revise it.

Oh yeah, the average temp of the CPU with Vapochill is -10 C! Now that is cold:eek:

[Joeteck]

What is the cost of it?

[Silversinksam]

$700-$800+ depending what add ons you get

http://www.minotaur.com/index.php?go=vapochill&page=pricelist

[mEKbOY]

I have a vapochill. Here are my thoughts on it. Ultiamte in performance hands down. Very expensive. Not only does the unit cost a lot but most poeple break a few athlons with it. I killed 3 with it. Very quiet. If you learn how to properly mount the evaporater right you can install it without any harm. Unofortunatley it took me 3 dead athlons to learn. results can be somewhat amazing. Right now mine is just sitting in the corner of my house because im to scared and cant afford to break another cpu. I think its more of a practical design for the pentium 4 as they have protective shells on them.

[nikhsub1]

I suppose a shim would help in the Vapochill case?

[mEKbOY]

Nope. The evaporater is no bigger than the actualy core itself. The shim only covers the hole chip but not around the core. The only thing i have seen is some people make mini pads that fit around the core out of a credit card. I may try this or just use a pentium4 on it. BTW nikhsub1
.. i see your selling that system on ebay...why?

[Silversinksam]

mEKbOY,

Are you a Psychic?? How did you know nikhsub1 was selling his awesome system on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1303203761)


:p

[mEKbOY]

Originally posted by Silversinksam
mEKbOY,

Are you a Psychic?? How did you know nikhsub1 was selling his awesome system on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1303203761)


:p

LOL....I am an Ebay adict. I was browsing around when i noticed his system. Such a small world.

[nikhsub1]

I am not actually selling my system, I built another one that is for sale.

[Colin]

Perhaps the biggest drawback with the current Vapochill is the cooling ability with high wattage CPUs. I know of a fellow running an XP at 2 GHz with socket thermistor temps at 38 C full load. Unless Vapochill upgrades their design, pelts or a Kryotherm are what will be needed in the near future.

[ol' man]

Originally posted by nikhsub1
Except the main place that sells them will no longer sell the socket A version! They say too many Athlons have been cracked with the piece that attaches to the CPU. Oh well... maybe Vapochill will revise it.

Oh yeah, the average temp of the CPU with Vapochill is -10 C! Now that is cold:eek:


I got this setup running -15 deg. C right now but not on my system. I am testing the new H2O block I made for it to see if it will handle two days worth of coolant flow. Seems good so far. Block has ice froze to it and I licked it just.... you know... cause:D My tounge stuck to it. Well I am fine now:D

[mEKbOY]

Originally posted by Colin
Perhaps the biggest drawback with the current Vapochill is the cooling ability with high wattage CPUs. I know of a fellow running an XP at 2 GHz with socket thermistor temps at 38 C full load. Unless Vapochill upgrades their design, pelts or a Kryotherm are what will be needed in the near future.
Are you sure he has his evap is mounted properly. I know of a few people that are using vapo's with athlons around 1.9ghz+ and there temps are below 0 still. They have off course added some extra fans to the condensor but still 38c is high. Have you checked out the forums down at vapochill.com lately to check others results. I had my athlon at 1.72ghz and temps will very low about -10c. That socket thermistor is probaly false. Put a probe on the edge of the core and let me know if temps are the same because the heater pad may trick the socket temp into thinking it hotter. What voltage is he using to. As fas as upgrades im not sure what Asetek is planning on doing. They could upgrade the danfoss compressor's to the 50 model. But it seems that they are moving away from AMD"s because of how fragile they are and heat they put out. Pentium 4's seems to be doing very well with the vapo setup so that may be there move.

[Colin]

If I recall this correctly, the XP was running on a volt modded board. From my conversations with Minotaur, the Vapochill is limited to cooling 100 watts effectively. Even with an XP, adding a volt mod is pushing the Vapochill's limits. I suspect this is the reason behind pushing for P4 use. Why else would Vapochill suddenly withdraw from the AMD market after a year of successful marketing? There are to many folks that have had good results with a Vapochill and Athlons, core crushing or not. I believe CPU heat is the real reason.

[ol' man]

Originally posted by mEKbOY

Are you sure he has his evap is mounted properly. I know of a few people that are using vapo's with athlons around 1.9ghz+ and there temps are below 0 still. They have off course added some extra fans to the condensor but still 38c is high. Have you checked out the forums down at vapochill.com lately to check others results. I had my athlon at 1.72ghz and temps will very low about -10c. That socket thermistor is probaly false. Put a probe on the edge of the core and let me know if temps are the same because the heater pad may trick the socket temp into thinking it hotter. What voltage is he using to. As fas as upgrades im not sure what Asetek is planning on doing. They could upgrade the danfoss compressor's to the 50 model. But it seems that they are moving away from AMD"s because of how fragile they are and heat they put out. Pentium 4's seems to be doing very well with the vapo setup so that may be there move.

If they really wanted to goto some smokers they would try the new celeries. They only put out about half the watts of heat that the athlons do at 1600MHz. If they can get the chips to -30 I bet they could usually do 1800MHz or higher.

[mEKbOY]

Originally posted by Colin
If I recall this correctly, the XP was running on a volt modded board. From my conversations with Minotaur, the Vapochill is limited to cooling 100 watts effectively. Even with an XP, adding a volt mod is pushing the Vapochill's limits. I suspect this is the reason behind pushing for P4 use. Why else would Vapochill suddenly withdraw from the AMD market after a year of successful marketing? There are to many folks that have had good results with a Vapochill and Athlons, core crushing or not. I believe CPU heat is the real reason.

Sounds about right to me. What i dont get though is that they get so many sells of the unit for athlon users why not upgrade the model. they are using the danfoss 35 model right now. They would have to upgrade to the 50 model which is the one kryotech uses to achieve the -40c. Im sure that the higher model cost more but how much. It must be so much that they couldn't market the vapochill effectively just like kryotech cant with there system.

[ol' man]

Originally posted by ol' man



I got this setup running -15 deg. C right now but not on my system. I am testing the new H2O block I made for it to see if it will handle two days worth of coolant flow. Seems good so far. Block has ice froze to it and I licked it just.... you know... cause:D My tounge stuck to it. Well I am fine now:D


Coolant in the above system is now down to -20 deg. C.