View Full Version : Something wrong with my allendale?
Alright, my superpi seems way off, it's similar to my own Prescott and I'm using the 1.86GHZ Core2duo, my Prescott normally had 43 sec superpi, this C2D, which everyone raves about, gets 37 super pi.
Though something MUST be wrong because I have heard people get 27sec super pi with a stock 1.86ghz.
My system is as follows.
Asus p5nsli 570 chipset mobo
1.86GHZ C2D
2GB OCZ ddr2 ram
80GB 7200RPM WD
XFX 7900GS
Rosewill 550W PS
Also, are people just lucky on certain 1.86ghz? Mine won't overclock AT ALL.
This mobo is meant to overclock decently as well, I do everything properly, I could overclock my Prescott to 3.2ghz from 2.8 pretty easy. My temps are 42, around 48-50 with F.E.A.R on max settings and a long gaming session. I can't get this 1.86ghz to overclock even a miniscule amount without becoming extremely unstable.
might be the chipset, you got anything running when your testing it ?
BTW thats a conroe, allendales arent out yet, your chip has 4 mb cache with 2 disabled, that makes it a conroe, the allendales will only have 2 mb cache period
Nope, not running anything while testing.
Hm, I called it Allendale because I am always corrected when I say Conroe for my processor, but you sound correct about the whole deal.
FeuerFrei
12-03-06, 04:15 PM
BTW thats a conroe, allendales arent out yet
Uh? If allendale isn't out yet, what are E6300 and E6400?
ALL 2Mb desktop C2D are Allendales
ALL 4Mb desktop C2D are Conroes
Stop giving wrong info plz
This mobo is meant to overclock decently as well, I do everything properly, I could overclock my Prescott to 3.2ghz from 2.8 pretty easy. My temps are 42, around 48-50 with F.E.A.R on max settings and a long gaming session. I can't get this 1.86ghz to overclock even a miniscule amount without becoming extremely unstable.
I know the nForce series for Intel to bad OCers, but not THAT bad... There must be something, because the Merom in my sig does under 30secs...
1. Is it on a clean Win32 install?
If yes:
2. Reset the BIOS
3. Check your RAM timings and voltages
4. Can you test it with another power supply?
5. Does your motherboard supports Conroe (correct PWM)?
dicecca112
12-03-06, 05:07 PM
Nope, not running anything while testing.
Hm, I called it Allendale because I am always corrected when I say Conroe for my processor, but you sound correct about the whole deal.
Jesus Christ how many times do we have to correct this. Allendale is not out till th E4300 comes out in 07, probably January. Allendale according to Intel is a chip based on the Conroe Architecture that has 2mb Native cache. The E6300 and E6400 chips are conroes with 4mb of cache, 2mb of which is disabled. CPU-Z inncorretly thought those chips were Allendales because of the 2mb of cache. The Allendales die will be smaller because of the less cache.
For a very long time, it was considered that stripped down versions of the Conroe processors were code-named Allendale. In actuality, Allendale is a code-name for a different processor. Many suggest that E6300 and E6400 are actually code-named Allendale, however, the E6300 (1.86 GHz) and E6400 (2.13 GHz) processors are not code-named Allendale because they physically have 4 MB cache, same as their big brothers E6600 and E6700 - it is just that half of their physical memory is disabled. Traditionally, CPUs of the same family with less cache simply have the unavailable cache disabled (this allows parts that fail quality control to be sold at a lower rating). The fact that E6300 and E6400 are not code-named Allendale and actually code-named Conroe has been confirmed by Intel themselves.
Quoted from The Tech Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tech_Report):
You'll find plenty of sources that will tell you the code name for these 2 MB Core 2 Duo processors is "Allendale," but Intel says otherwise. These CPUs are still code-named "Conroe," which makes sense since they're the same physical chips with half of their L2 cache disabled. Intel may well be cooking up a chip code-named Allendale with 2 MB of L2 cache natively, but this is not that chip.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#_note-4)
The real Allendale processors, including the E4300, will be released during Q1 2007.
To the OP I'd tend to lean that the problem here is power. Rosewill PSUs aren't exactly the best. Did you manually set the Vcore or is it set to Auto? What are your ram timings? What is the stepping of your Chip? Gaming is not a good idea of what your load temps are. Get CoreTemp and use Orthos or TAT to stress your chip.
MadMan007
12-03-06, 05:22 PM
Rattle is correct, the e6300 and e6400 are really Conroes because they have 2MB cache disabled, native 2MB cache Allendales will come out with the e4300 and revamped e6300 and e6400 around February. These will eventually form the further cut-down cache versions as well. It used to bug me too but it's just a technicality and sort of depends on how you look at it.
Now, to help the OP...there's a few standard things to try before assuming you just have no oc potential. From some quick scans of reviews it seems as if you should expect somewhere in the 300-333MHz FSB area.
My list ;) in addition to Feuer's
easy things-
1) Update to the newest BIOS. If you're running an older BIOS I'd bet my money that the newest one will help a lot.
2) Make sure all your settings are correct like locked PCI and PCIe bus.
3) Make sure the Ram is set to a 1:1 ratio.
3) Check voltages for Ram and chipset, make sure the chipset isn't overheating - good case airflow etc.
Please give the exact Ram you're using too.
You shouldn't be limited by your PSU with a 7900gs. Do a BIOS update if you haven't and see if things improve just from that.
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