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Dissolved
11-28-01, 08:51 PM
well i was wondering whats the best water mix to use for just a basic water cooling setup?

i have res/pump>cpu>rad back to res/pump.
z4 block, 300gph pump, 12x5 rad alum w/ 2 120mm fans.
39C idle/46~49C load.

ive been told 30% antifreez, and 70% distilled water. as one way. would that be good enough?

also is the copper block & alum rad gonna be a problem?

thanks.

Warlord2
11-28-01, 08:57 PM
thats too much anti-freeze
go for about 10% anti 90% distil
or 5% water wetter and 95% distil (better)

I ran 5% water wetter and 95% distil with a alum radiator and copper block with no problem for more thin 5 weeks
I checked the radiator yesterday and had no corrosing so you shouldnt have a problem

Wicked Klown
11-28-01, 09:41 PM
I use 15% anti-freeze and 85% distilled water in mine and my temps are rnage from 22C-30C. You might want to change your set-up tho go res/pump, rad, block then back to the res/pump. You'll get better cooling that way.

Dissolved
11-29-01, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Klownin79
I use 15% anti-freeze and 85% distilled water in mine and my temps are rnage from 22C-30C. You might want to change your set-up tho go res/pump, rad, block then back to the res/pump. You'll get better cooling that way.

yea, thats the way i had it in the first place.. im trying to figure out how i could mod in my rad, and my pump in my case. im thinking of mounting the rad on the bottom of the case with the 2 120mm fans on top of it sucking the air from under the case. and ill have to find a continor to but my pump in small enough to fit. i have the antec sx1030b, and i removed the second hdd tray. but i think ill try a mixture of the anitfreez and distilled water very soon.


does it matter what type of antifreez to use?

Wicked Klown
11-29-01, 02:18 AM
Go with any brand of Glycol coolant make sure it`s green and not red I repeat not red.

Dissolved
11-29-01, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by Klownin79
Go with any brand of Glycol coolant make sure it`s green and not red I repeat not red.

aight. so antifreez and distilled water should be ok then right? cuz i do have a alum rad., and my water block has a copper base.

id like to be 37C under full load. right now im 43C, room is 23C and res~water is 26C.

any other tips?

thanks alot!

ol' man
11-29-01, 02:36 AM
Yeah I would say if you are not hitting cryo temps like me then you ahould be fine with even maybe 5% glycol 10% better but if you could only add around 5% then that would save you some cash. That should be enough and you may have that much sitting around there some place maybe.

I runa 40/60 but my temps alos get down into the -20 deg. C range.

Dissolved
11-29-01, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by ol' man
Yeah I would say if you are not hitting cryo temps like me then you ahould be fine with even maybe 5% glycol 10% better but if you could only add around 5% then that would save you some cash. That should be enough and you may have that much sitting around there some place maybe.

I runa 40/60 but my temps alos get down into the -20 deg. C range.

yea, well ur useing a different method of cooling. i just have a basic rad/waterblock setup.

please read my post above this one thanks members ;)

ButcherUK
11-29-01, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by Klownin79
Go with any brand of Glycol coolant make sure it`s green and not red I repeat not red.
Hey mine is blue! :)

It's definitely Ethylene Gycol stuff though.

Hoot
11-29-01, 06:34 AM
I just bought a gallon jug of distilled water, poured out 4 oz. of water and poured in a 4 oz bottle of Water Wetter. My setup is all copper, so it is not exactly like yours. With that mix, running a 1.0G Tbird at 10x150, in a room at 19.5C, case temp is 20.5C and CPU core idles at 22C(halt-on-idle enabled). Under load (Prime95 Torture), case temp goes up to 21.5C and core is 31.5C. Hard to break the 10C differential without a peltier, no matter what you use. The Tbird core just can't move more heat for its surface area in contact with the water block, without active cooling. My setup is fairly new, so I don't have any corrosion observations to pass along yet.

Hoot

UnaClocker
11-29-01, 09:07 AM
Wow, 50/50 water wetter? I'm amazed that works at all, I've seen other people try that before and get horrid cooling results.

Intraveinous
11-29-01, 09:19 AM
No, Gallon = 128 oz, minus 4oz = 124oz, plus 4oz waterwetter = 1 gallon again... shake it up, and bam, you've got a premix to fill your closed system, or if you were feeling saucy, a resivior... :D At least this is what I got from Hoot's description.
Kinda like takin a gallon of OJ, using 8 oz of it to make a screwdriver, then dumping 6 oz of vodka in and shaking it up... Goto the football game and you're set.. :D
:beer:
Peace
John

UnaClocker
11-29-01, 09:29 AM
Doh! I see now.. I thought he meant he poured out 4ounces of water to use, and put the rest of the gallon away. :) Now it makes more sense.. ;) Still a stronger solution than I use, but not too much. ;)

The Overclocker
11-29-01, 11:53 AM
there is infomation here http://www.overclockwatercool.com/coolant.html however i dont know how good this is

Dissolved
11-29-01, 04:35 PM
would 2 rad's help cool the water more?

like>
res/pump>rad1>cpu>rad2
?

Warlord2
11-29-01, 05:34 PM
I had a 2-3c temp decrease under load when I put on my sec radiators fans

Dissolved
11-29-01, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Warlord2
I had a 2-3c temp decrease under load when I put on my sec radiators fans

whats that suppose to mean?

when u put a 2nd rad on?

Wicked Klown
11-29-01, 07:16 PM
in other word he might have had it go like this. Res/Pump, Rad, Block, Rad then back to the Res.

UnaClocker
11-29-01, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Dissolved
would 2 rad's help cool the water more?

like>
res/pump>rad1>cpu>rad2
?
I have a setup just like that, and when I have my fans going full tilt I don't really see an improvement, but when I turn my fans down to the point where I can't hear them, I definately see the second radiator's benefit. But then, I'm not running any pelts, so I don't have a massive heatload, I just wanted a quieter setup. :)

Warlord2
11-29-01, 09:37 PM
whats that suppose to mean?


I have 2 radiators with 2 fans on each and switches on all the fans so I can turn thim off when I dont need thim

if I turn on all fans there will be a 2-3c temp decrease thin when only one of the radiators fans are on (under load)

during idle it doesnt change

I only put 2 radiators in because I am going to use pelts later on

ButcherUK
11-30-01, 10:26 AM
better to use Ys and split to go through two rads than to have a series arrangement, rads work better with slow flow.

Wicked Klown
11-30-01, 07:44 PM
If you want to do a two Rad set-up try putting one rad at the bottom of the case. Have that one go to the block then have the other Rad at the top of your case and have that going back to the pump/res. I hope the pic helps.

Stephen Castles
12-01-01, 01:19 AM
use Zerez or Prestone antifreeze, zerez is blue, prestone is green. DO NOT use havoline dex-cool or anything orange or red, this will eat-dissolve-kill a PVC style resivior and could do other junk to your system

ol' man
12-01-01, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by Dissolved


yea, well ur useing a different method of cooling. i just have a basic rad/waterblock setup.

please read my post above this one thanks members ;)

Umm yeah I did dude. That is why I was saying even 5% anti freeze to protect from corrosion would be enough if that is all you had laying aorund:rolleyes:

Stephen Castles
12-01-01, 11:00 AM
i'm just gonna use some water wetter.