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Stoner51
12-10-06, 03:33 PM
My son wants this for xmas. He wants the burning crusade which says it is an expansion pack. So I need the orginal world of warcraft and then the burning crusade. Correct?
thanks
steve
Burning crusade isnt out till jan 16
--pak
Jacobman
12-10-06, 03:55 PM
When you create your WoW account it will ask you for either a game card or credit card to continue, even though the game gives you 1 month free. So just be ready for that.
Okay first of all...a few things.
I can guarantee your son gets hooked. Establish rules now while you still can.
Second: I would strongly reccomend your son chooses something that he really wants to play, it sucks leveling to 60 and realizing you should have rolled a different class.
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Yes you need a copy of World of Warcraft (I think Wal-Mart had it for 19.99) and then you would and SHOULD pre-order World of Warcraft:The Burning Crusades if you want it on release day or even that week, you can pre-order at gamestop/ebgames not sure where else. But I highly recommend you pre-order because it does come out January 16th and if it's anything like World of Warcraft was it will be hard to get the first week, due to sell outs.
Like 7 said, you should limit the time I don't care even if he is 18... the game is a HUGE DEMAND of time. He will skip class or "forget" his homework, get "sick" when it's time to work etc etc. Your son might be more responsible than most of the people I played with (I quit and sold my account) and not prone to this but it's just a friendly warning. Please do not be offended.
We have a number of people at work who skip days because of this game. I hope you know what you're getting into.
bobthemoo
12-10-06, 05:09 PM
Yeah, some advice, Limit him to around an hour a day. Hopefully, he won't get as hooked.
I got obsessed with it, and managed to go cold turkey......
Toasty_Squirrel
12-10-06, 05:14 PM
I'm a reformed player myself. Hooked me in like crazy until I eventually realized I was playing right into Blizzard's game design. You know they've got an entire team devoted to figuring out how to make the game as addictive as possible.
That being said, it's one of the best damn MMO's out there and if you can get your son to excercise discipline on how much he actually plays, more power to him (and you.) Just keep it at like a couple hours a day, or something like that. If he doesn't like the idea of a time limit and he plays himself to obesity anyway, just mention to him that he's allowing himself to be a pawn of a multi-billion dollar corporation and the best way to screw them back is to "play responsibly"; or some junk like that.
But to actually answer your question, "Yes" you need the original WoW game to play the Burning Crusade expansion. I know the former comes with a free month, game cards cost $30 sixty days; and it's possible that the Expansion may have some time with it... but that's speculation.
And yes, the time is cumulative.
grumperfish
12-10-06, 05:25 PM
Having lost 3 friends now to this game, I'd say just don't, or at least take the time to realize what you may be helping your son get into. I understand that my friends are the ones to blame for this, but I can't help but hold Blizzard partially at fault due to their development strategy.
We have a number of people at work who skip days because of this game. I hope you know what you're getting into.
ARRRRHHHHHHGGGGGggGGg! How do people get into a game that much! I play WoW and I only play it like 6-9hrs a week. I guess you have to be like incredibly bored and have nothing to strive for I guess.
Well, not really.
Once you get into endgame raiding, the game becomes at least 5x as time consuming.
Getting NEW GEAR is addictive. Trust me, I would sit for weeks on end just hoping for 1 new purple item out of the few instances we ran a week.
Until you're in a guild where you get defaulted everything you want, you have the best gear in the game, and that gear drops every time, you probably won't be fully satisfied.
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Gregory_WE
12-10-06, 06:30 PM
The end game was actually what put me off... I loved the game and played it A LOT up until it came to 40 man raid type things. It just didn't seem fun anymore, and it would take sooo much time to get anything, and you just think to yourself, what's the point?
I know some people love the end game, but I was "addicted" up until that point... when I got there, I kind of lost interest. I did the smaller instances and PVP'd a ton though @ 60.
I was playing WoW for about 6 months, and I wasn't the least bit addicted even though I was doing endgame raids. Its all about discipline and self control. With a younger child, some enforcement is almost sure to be necessary. They dropped the price on WoW to $19.99. You can even dl the software online and then just activate your account. I'd recommend getting the cds because its faster. Then you have to get BC on top of that. I'd preorder it.
OkydOky
12-10-06, 06:48 PM
WoW comew with parental control settings.
Very useful to limit play time.
If it is a younger child or even a teen, set some rules. and use those parental controls, you can limit what times he can log on that way.
hitbyaprkedcar7
12-10-06, 07:12 PM
This whole WoW thing is redicilous. Its like the new gateway drug. First, your killing boars, then you dress up as a troll and run around at night terrorizing your town. I refuse to pay 15$ a month (180$ a year) PLUS the 30$ for the game itself. I know of like 5 of my friends who do not leave there house ever, all they do is play this game. Wake up, go to school, come home at 2:00, play untill 1:30 in the morning, go to sleep, wake up at 6:30, repeat. Its redicilous. Thats 11.5 hours a day
Im not saying the game isnt fun, its just redicilous how popular this is becoming. BTW, people are now adding "Reached Level 60 in World of Warcraft and *insert crazy super powerful items and what not here*" to college and job resumes
Def. limit his playtime.
Stoner51
12-10-06, 07:46 PM
well right now they play runescape forever on the weekends. so this should be about the same they don't play too much during the week.
what is this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832127115
VinnyTAMU
12-10-06, 07:53 PM
BTW, people are now adding "Reached Level 60 in World of Warcraft and *insert crazy super powerful items and what not here*" to college and job resumes
Def. limit his playtime.
Not if they want to find a job in RL.
OkydOky
12-10-06, 08:04 PM
what is this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832127115
That is the Burning Crusade, the Expansion to World of Warcraft, that will be released in Mid January.
For the love of god, please limit his play time. :p
Maybe watch the WoW episode of south park.... :D
BlitzPuppet
12-10-06, 09:23 PM
Please please please let him only play on the weekends if at all possible. I know many many kids who have destroyed their education with that damn game because it eats up so much time.
mOtH3r_bUrN3R
12-10-06, 09:28 PM
How old is your son. I would not recommend the game to anyone under 13-14 years old. There is too much interaction with people of all ages. I recently told my one pal to not allow his kids to get it yet. I have to agree with the other posters about the addictive nature of the game. I play all the time and find myself 'hooked' at times.....but I have been better about lowering its' priority.
Do your homework and make sure you establish rules. The expansion will need the original as well.....so you will need to buy both as most people claimed. With regards to the computer, be ready for a lot of wasted downloads for mods and etc. Be sure to check what he downloads the last thing you need is a keylogger or virus.
burn3r...
I would definately not have your son play this game if he isn't ready for it. Trust me, you're up for a lot of ridicule if your voicebox hasn't developed yet, but generally people don't like playing with 13 year olds.
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Tall_Dallas
12-11-06, 08:55 AM
I had a neighbor that bought it for his two teenagers.
They have two computers so they play together all the time.
The best Idea I ever saw was that he created "wow-bucks" little monopoly money that he printed and laminated. $1 = 1 hour of game play.
Depending on how his kids behave during the week (there is no playing during the week) they earn bucks based on behavior, chores, etc.
They then can pay to play.
The WOW now became the reason to keep their rooms clean, help in the kitchen, etc.
He said basically he's exploiting the addictive nature. But like he said, "the house has never looked better, so I’m not going to complain about a good thing"
He also limits the amount they can earn to $2 per day. So a total of 10 hours per child MAX for a weekend. But he said they also loose money they have earned when they do badly. ... He admitted he's never handed out more than $6 a week.
To prevent accidental playing of the game. He personally keeps the account passwords secret except for him and his wife.
That keeps them in control of when they play.
Plus, that gives mommy & daddy some time while the kids play.
I think that is a bit extreme. I do think limiting is fine to 1-2 hours on the weekday but the weekend providing thier homework and chores are done is kind of free game...
To be honest I liked when I played WoW I spent a lot less money now I usually go to the bar or a concert/movies on the weekend.But yes I know they are kids.. and they should also socialize.I just remember hating when stuff got limited and eventually they gave up and let me learn on my own when I was a teen :P
SeasonalEclipse
12-11-06, 03:10 PM
I tried a private server of WoW and it wasnt too fun.. I guess the rates were too high or something.. I just didnt get much enjoyment out of it.. Not as much as Raganork online.
My son wants this for xmas. He wants the burning crusade which says it is an expansion pack. So I need the orginal world of warcraft and then the burning crusade. Correct?
thanks
steve
yeah and you'll be paying $15 per month as well. This game is the best game i have ever played in my life, it has also been known to ruin many relationships, lost jobs/careers so be prepared to yell at your son alot cuase he will never get off the computer again. He will skip school to play, never go out on weekends, will never have a girlfriend so if this is what your son wants then this is the game for him.
satandole666
12-12-06, 03:28 AM
Don't get it for him.
I was 21 when I bought the game "for my brother" in March for his B-Day. My 6 month subscription expired last month (thank God).
I played it for about 3-4 hours a day. It ruined my sleep schedule (maybe that's why I'm posting at 4:20 in the morning?). That's all that happened to me...my bro is much worse.
As the family computer wasn't good enough to play WoW, I told him he could use the system I have to play the game. It was located in my room. I told him I didn't care that he was in playing as long as he was ready to get off when I got home from work/school/drinking.
Soon I found my room was a mess. Drinks, chips, food, etc, everywhere. On top of that he wouldn't leave when I got home at midnight and needed to sleep.
He didn't get his driver's license for 5 months because he was too busy playing the game I bought him for his birthday. When he eventually got it, he didn't go anywhere.
He was hired and fired twice from local jobs because he slept in late (aka past noon) from being up all night playing while I was trying to sleep.
He had a successful garage band that performed at parties locally. Mainly high school stuff. This ended about 3 weeks after he started playing WoW.
He went from being an A- student to a C- student at best.
He quit hanging out with his friends all together. This includes his band, the friends he's had since elementary school, and the girlfriend that broke up with him about 2 weeks into playing WoW.
I changed the password to the account and he threw a fit. He tried for over an hour to guess what I changed the password to. Eventually I couldn't deal with it anymore and had the password reset.
All of this from a previously responsible 16 year old. Quite a transformation.
I recently moved out of my parent's house and he was screwed. No more WoW. Low and behold, his grades are up...he has a girlfriend, a band, and a job.
Don't get it for him.
It is the greatest game ever and the worst game ever at the same time. Maybe if I won the lottery or something I would install it again...but as long as you have responsibility or want to teach responsibility this game will ruin it.
WeezleXX89
12-12-06, 02:54 PM
dude WOW sucks. Too much money to have fun. I spent sa total of 130 bucks and it was fun at first but got really boring really quick. Go for Warcraft 3 frozen throne which battlenet is free and you verse other people that are skilled. personally its better than WOW. WOW SUCKS.
Maviryk
12-12-06, 03:04 PM
Actually, WoW is a great game.
It's just that it's TOO great. Very addictive.
Moderation is key. You will NEED to limit his time playing.
jtjuska
12-13-06, 12:21 PM
I personally wouldn't get it for him for the reasons mentioned here. I do not personally own an account but I have a friend that let me make a couple characters on his account (he is ADHD with games, lol). It was a lot of fun but it did get very old very quickly and wasn't my cup of tea. I have other MMO's that I play and they suit me for the time and money I put into them which is about an hour to two hours a week tops.
~jtjuska
WoW is hard to get into if you haven't leveled up a character yourself and seen it grow.
It's kind of like planting an apple tree. It sucks for the first few months of it's growth, but once it's fully grown you basically reap the dividends, which requires time.
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uzibear
12-13-06, 09:09 PM
ARRRRHHHHHHGGGGGggGGg! How do people get into a game that much! I play WoW and I only play it like 6-9hrs a week. I guess you have to be like incredibly bored and have nothing to strive for I guess.
i don't get it either; i played for a month and got bored of it; i guess i never gave it much of a chance, but i tried out all sorts of character combos and the game just has no interest for me; i can't even fathom this "addiction" thing....
uzibear
12-13-06, 09:10 PM
Well, not really.
Once you get into endgame raiding, the game becomes at least 5x as time consuming.
Getting NEW GEAR is addictive. Trust me, I would sit for weeks on end just hoping for 1 new purple item out of the few instances we ran a week.
Until you're in a guild where you get defaulted everything you want, you have the best gear in the game, and that gear drops every time, you probably won't be fully satisfied.
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don't you realize how absolutely BORING that is? to crave, lust, and spend all your energy so you can have some shiny pixels on the screen? unbelievable
That's why I quit, buddy.
I should have made myself clear though. The whole point of getting new gear, in the end, is to PvP better. In comparison to CS, it would be like if everybody else was running around with glocks and USPs, but you were the only person carrying an AK or a Colt.
Also, raiding gets very social sometimes. I've made pretty good friends with people I will probably never meet in person, in addition to just playing with a few of my friends.
Boredom was really not a big deal for me. I find WoW much less boring than say, watching TV or something. I have friends, trust me, I used to miss raiding to go party or chill with friends, but when i was at home, WoW was basically all I was doing besides lifting, sleeping, or eating.
The game really isn't all too hard to quit. Just one day, get into the mode that you're going to quit, start selling your stuff, and just keep pushing yourself out.
I still have 1800g sitting on my character (now dormant) because I just sold all of the useful crap at the end of my playtime (it's going to go down in price anyway).
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Wolverine690
12-14-06, 12:25 AM
I won't get into your questions as they've been answered a few times over...but I will tell you that as other have also said it is a fun & addictive game. While this could be a good or bad thing depending on your sons age & responsibilities.
Personally I don't see a problem with getting this for him...as it is a really good & enjoyable game. But the nice thing is Blizzard has added some nice parental features such as a time schedule thing for it. You can set the password on this to be different then the acct password which your son needs to know to log in. Also make sure to use your email address for setting up this acct.
Anyhow this parent thing will allow you to set times during the day Mon-Sun that he can play & can't play, there are in 30 min blocks & you just chose the time frames each day he can play & can't play, works great & is easy to set up I used it for my stepson when he played it before he got his 360.
Bad thing is my wife wants to set it up for me... :mad: LOL
I still have 1800g sitting on my character (now dormant) because I just sold all of the useful crap at the end of my playtime (it's going to go down in price anyway).
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Feel free to send me this gold :) lol
And the point of the game is different to different people...it's not all about getting better gear to pvp better for everyone...I really have no care for pvp I'll do it from time to time if the need arises. It could be so you can raid better in PVE or maybe they have no interest in pve & just likes to do 5 & 10 mans with friends & just chill...everyone is different & peoples preferences for playing with be all different.
SpliT71
12-14-06, 12:56 AM
Yeah, some advice, Limit him to around an hour a day. Hopefully, he won't get as hooked.
I got obsessed with it, and managed to go cold turkey......
You and me both! :bday:
Wolverine690
12-14-06, 04:14 AM
You and me both! :bday:
just have to remember what in life is really important...WoW is not....Wife & kids are...it's ok to get lost in the game for a while but not 5 or more hours a day when you have a family....
yu777yu
12-14-06, 04:57 AM
I really can't get myself to like it. I'm so amazed by the fact there's "Addicts" in this game. How can you be addicted to that boring grind?
That's why I quit, buddy.
I should have made myself clear though. The whole point of getting new gear, in the end, is to PvP better. In comparison to CS, it would be like if everybody else was running around with glocks and USPs, but you were the only person carrying an AK or a Colt.
Also, raiding gets very social sometimes. I've made pretty good friends with people I will probably never meet in person, in addition to just playing with a few of my friends.
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Think about it if you pve you get gear to beat harder encounters (which is fun the first couple times for each new boss) which gets you more gear to beat more difficult encounters it's an endless cycle. Up until the last few months (rank 13 buff) You had to pve to get the best pvp gear then for a while it was you had to do both to get the best pvp gear.. Now you can finally get the best pvp gear...from what?? You guessed it PvP that is the best change they have ever implemented and it was soooooo overdue.
I quit and sold my account because I didn't have the schedule to allow me to raid 4 nights a week and 3 of those days being on the weekdays. So in turn I wouldn't be able to maintain equal grounds in pvp.. albiet it bg's or roaming but since they added arena which gives me my roaming fix,for the most part.They put in great pvp rewards and rightfully so. One should never have to step foot in an 40 man to get great pvp gear.It's insane to expect you to spend 20 hours a week learning every encounter until you got it on farm status and then it still taking you 1 5-8 hour day to clear that instance. Just for the high end pvp gear.
For the longest time I wish they made people hit GM/HWL (before it became ezmode) to get attuned so all the carebears would see what it's like.If you wanted the best you had to raid and still maintain your rank. But finally it's over and needless to say I will be starting a new toon come expac, since I will be able to get a few buddies together to clear the 10 mans and 5 mans they are adding that actually take a bit of thought.. Don't get me wrong I also love PvE but not as much as PvP.But I will be able to play alot more casual compared to the 10+ hours I was forced to do if I wanted decent gear.
If you didn't know or you actually cared the next best thing they did was remove honor decay and the entire new revamp in general.
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