Which rad to buy?

OCnewbee · Dec 21, 2006

Ok so i read the sticky on the wc parts but which one do you think is the best out of these three

Danger Den Black Ice GT Stealth 240 X-Flow Radiator - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4...40_X-Flow_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s160

Danger Den Black Ice GTX Xtreme 240 Radiator - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5...treme_240_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s160

Danger Den Black Ice Xtreme II Dual 120mm Radiator (Black) w/ Customizable Fittings
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...ck_w_Customizable_Fittings.html?tl=g30c95s160

I was thinking of running the x-flow. But will change if it is not that great.

thanks

4od · Dec 21, 2006

At that price range you could afford about 5 heatercores...

now while that wouldn't be very effective, a single 77 bonneville/impala heatercore would be just as effective as the 50$ one, but cost something between 10 and 20 dollars...

i would go with a bonneville, plus shrouds and yate loons (considerable power + super low price)

meionm · Dec 21, 2006

What fans will you be using?
Good radiators for low to mid cfm fans are BIP2, MCR220, BIGT 240

OCnewbee · Dec 22, 2006

meionm said:
What fans will you be using?
Good radiators for low to mid cfm fans are BIP2, MCR220, BIGT 240

need 3 fans please recomend 2 for the rad and one for the exhaust of the case. silent if possible.

4od · Dec 22, 2006

yate loons

hands down, best for the money, because they can be found OEM (unbranded) at various stores. Go to Jab-tech.com and look under 120mm fans. They cost something like 3 or 4 dollars, and are quiet and powerful.

QuietIce · Dec 22, 2006

4od said:
yate loons

hands down, best for the money, because they can be found OEM (unbranded) at various stores. Go to Jab-tech.com and look under 120mm fans. They cost something like 3 or 4 dollars, and are quiet and powerful.

You think 28 db is quiet/silent? Even at 7v I find that hard to believe. My S-Flex "E" makes a tiny bit of noise @ 20.1 db ...

OCnewbee · Dec 22, 2006

Well the 3 120mm fans that came with my Thermaltake Armor LCS are rated at 78 CFM max but they don't run at max, so im guessing around 34cfm.

voigts · Dec 22, 2006

4od said:
At that price range you could afford about 5 heatercores...

now while that wouldn't be very effective, a single 77 bonneville/impala heatercore would be just as effective as the 50$ one, but cost something between 10 and 20 dollars...

Based upon what?? Do you have any data or testing to show this to be the case?

If you are going to spend the money, buy a Thermochill 120.2 instead of the Black Ice GTX. The Thermochill is the best rad money can buy hands down. I would buy the MCR 220 any day over the GTX (http://jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCR-220-Radiator-Black-pr-3199.html). As far as I am concerned, the GTX rads are merely overpriced.

Whatever you do, do NOT buy an Xflow rad. At the flow rates we operate at, it performs about 20% less than the same dual pass rad due to a major design flaw in the XFlow. Dual pass rads have the inlet and outlet on the same side of the rad.

For fans, go with the Yate Loons. They are about the best fans for silence, performance, and cost you will get.

OCnewbee · Dec 22, 2006

i called tt tech and ask them i couldn't get a manufacture of the fan out of them.

here you go
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...m_Blue_LED_Smart_Fan_A2018.html?tl=g36c15s518

minus the controller and thats the fan i have.

OCnewbee · Dec 26, 2006

ok so i decides to go with this setup is it good enough, what would you guys change?

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3349
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200&products_id=3985
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=240&products_id=20757
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=3112
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=318&products_id=3615
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=203&products_id=20509

on the tubing im on the edge of either tygon or clearflex???? what about primoflex all in 1/2"

voigts · Dec 27, 2006

The parts you have listed are very good parts. You could trim some money off of it if you want to go with Apogee over the Storm. With an IHS, it doesn't make much difference although theoretically that Storm is the better block. You can use some Yate loons with that rad for low noise.

One thing I would change is the fillport. I would get a Delrin one from http://www.petrastechshop.com/madeficap.html instead. The plug on the DD ones corrode after a pretty short time.

Tygon is the best tubing you can buy. Clearflex is good tubing, but it clouds up very quickly and easily. A lot of people like the colored Primoflex.

QuietIce · Dec 27, 2006

Tubing? If not Tygon then Masterkleer ...

OCnewbee · Dec 27, 2006

voigts said:
The parts you have listed are very good parts. You could trim some money off of it if you want to go with Apogee over the Storm. With an IHS, it doesn't make much difference although theoretically that Storm is the better block. You can use some Yate loons with that rad for low noise.

One thing I would change is the fillport. I would get a Delrin one from http://www.petrastechshop.com/madeficap.html instead. The plug on the DD ones corrode after a pretty short time.

Tygon is the best tubing you can buy. Clearflex is good tubing, but it clouds up very quickly and easily. A lot of people like the colored Primoflex.

Well i just placed the order for all the stuff, i went with the tygon 1/2"id 5/8"od tubing and i got the dd filport can always change them later on. got everything on 1-2day usps hopefully should have it by the end of the week. Cand wait huge revamp coming up. New mobo and brand new setup on the WC. Hopefully i get much better temp over my TT kit i currently have. I will be doing some comparing off the two temp.

QuietIce · Dec 27, 2006

If you got 1/2" thin-walled Tygon you'll probably need some SmartCoils/CoolSleeves to go with it. I love the thin-walled Tygon and have used it inside all my cases (with Masterkleer for the external runs) but any tight bend is gonna' make a slight kink ...

OCnewbee · Dec 27, 2006

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! Already got an e-mail saying that they were out of the rad So i asked for the thermochill instead and i told them to give me a deal on it cause there dumb website said they had it in stock and still does say it. And if they could not do that then i asked them to up my shipping to next day for no additional cost. Damn Incorrect websites shops.

ARCJr · Dec 28, 2006

If you truly want silent fans, the S-Flex as mentioned or, slightly more exotic, Noctua 12cm fans. I could only find the Noctua fans in Canadia at ncix.com. The Noctuas have a VERY high CFM/noise ratio, and are in the 19-20dB range for noise, without undervolting them.

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