Cryo cooling made easy. Pics inside.

[ol' man]

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/cryo.jpg
http://hhrol.bobsville.com/BII.jpg


Well after running this today I got the temps down to -20 deg. C. Not sure how they are getting lower than yesterday but it is better anyway. I tested the block with a 120W bulb and the temps rose to -12 deg. C over a 5 hour period from -15 deg. C.

If you look in the above pic you can see I have a fan blowing on the compressor and condensor. I guess that is essential. Without it they will over heat in this situation. I am running the fan on the lowest setting which is practically inaudible. It is alot quieter than a 6000rpm delta that is for sure or even a intel retail fan. I am not absolutly sure this will withstand 24/7 operation but apparently some people with refrigeration knowledge say it will work. I have had it running for almost 48 hours like this. The submersible is a 12v boat bilge pump. Some say it it will die in 2 months time but we will see I guess. If it does I guess it will be time to order a 120v fish tank pump. Tell me what you think. I made this all for under $100.

[ol' man]

Should have added that I am cooling a celery 1.2GHz chip so it is only going to be cooling half the watts a athlon would put out. If you have a athlon this setup may not work.

[mw521]

Originally posted by ol' man
This is a 750Kb file so it will take awhile.

http://hhrol.50g.com/cryo.jpg

Here is how I made the block if you haven't seen it already.

http://hhrol.50g.com/h2ob3.jpg

Well after running this today I got the temps down to -20 deg. C. Not sure how they are getting lower than yesterday but it is better anyway. I tested the block with a 120W bulb and the temps rose to -12 deg. C over a 5 hour period from -15 deg. C.

If you look in the above pic you can see I have a fan blowing on the compressor and condensor. I guess that is essential. Without it they will over heat in this situation. I am running the fan on the lowest setting which is practically inaudible. It is alot quieter than a 6000rpm delta that is for sure or even a intel retail fan. I am not absolutly sure this will withstand 24/7 operation but apparently some people with refrigeration knowledge say it will work. I have had it running for almost 48 hours like this. The submersible is a 12v boat bilge pump. Some say it it will die in 2 months time but we will see I guess. If it does I guess it will be time to order a 120v fish tank pump. Tell me what you think. I made this all for under $100. 1.5 sec file down. I am going to water and am checking different ideas. Thanks for the input!:beer:

[Wicked Klown]

1.5 sac down would've been faster but I was running Norton`s Anti-Virus. Nice set-up seeing things like this makes me feel like I can mods to the extreme. You see I use to have a custom lowrider but had to sell it ( not legal in the town I'm in). So now I do Computers. Is there a web site I can go to and learn more about this?

[KLowD9x]

Originally posted by Klownin79
1.5 sac down would've been faster but I was running Norton`s Anti-Virus. Nice set-up seeing things like this makes me feel like I can mods to the extreme. You see I use to have a custom lowrider but had to sell it ( not legal in the town I'm in). So now I do Computers. Is there a web site I can go to and learn more about this?

What town is this? and what is their reason for this law?

[Wicked Klown]

Sheboygan Wisconsin. Wit the law not really sure. Up here you must have mufflers on you car as well and mine didn't and I wasn't goin to put any one.

[mw521]

Originally posted by Klownin79
1.5 sac down would've been faster but I was running Norton`s Anti-Virus. Nice set-up seeing things like this makes me feel like I can mods to the extreme. You see I use to have a custom lowrider but had to sell it ( not legal in the town I'm in). So now I do Computers. Is there a web site I can go to and learn more about this? Sell me that Lowrider and I will personally come over and show you!

[Wicked Klown]

You really want it. I still have it.

[ol' man]

Here is how I made the block.
http://hhrol.bobsville.com/h2ob3.jpg

[Wicked Klown]

have you had this in a rig yet. if so how did it run and problems.

[ol' man]

Originally posted by Klownin79
have you had this in a rig yet. if so how did it run and problems.

Not yet, soon though but not for a couple days.

[Wicked Klown]

Oh ok when you do let us know how it handles it.

[Sonny]

Now I know what the "Mint Jello" was for:eh?:Here are the Pics of ol' man;

edit = Had to take it down:eek:. Just click on the link by ol' man:eh?:

[ol' man]

Originally posted by sonny
Now I know what the "Mint Jello" was for:eh?:Here are the Pics of ol' man;



Hey thanks for that. I used to be able to find good pic hosters for free but they are running dry.

[ol' man]

Hey dude my site does not allow pic hosting like this. They will kill it. Please remove it if you can ASAP. Tommorow I will find a a note on my site saying

NO HOT LINKING


PLEASE REMOVE IT ASAP or I will have to change its name ASAP.

Thanks anyway:)

Sure is some nice eye candy huh.

[Sonny]

Originally posted by ol' man
Hey thanks for that. I used to be able to find good pic hosters for free but they are running dry. No problem. I just linked it to where you uplaoded it:beer:

edit = Now it's gone

[ol' man]

Originally posted by sonny
No problem. I just linked it to where you uplaoded it:beer:

edit = Now it's gone

I know how you did it;) Thanks for removing it. I am going to try and find a place that host pics for free again. Got any ideas?

[Sonny]

Originally posted by ol' man
I know how you did it;) Thanks for removing it. I am going to try and find a place that host pics for free again. Got any ideas? I havent even tried uploading pics to a free server yet. But if I hear of one I'll let you know. Does your ISP give you a few Mb for free to make your own webpage? Mine does but since I am new to the computer world I got no clue how to make one. I'm really more of a gearhead/car guy:cool:

[ol' man]

EDITED for new eye candy above;)

[ol' man]

Here is the block done from the other pics you have seen.

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/block2.jpg

Yeah I could have cleaned it up a bit but it is highly effective where it counts;)

[ol' man]

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/block3.jpg

[Sonny]

What is that JET-ALERT? Did that help you stay awake while you were Burning-In that chip?

[ol' man]

Originally posted by sonny
What is that JET-ALERT? Did that help you stay awake while you were Burning-In that chip?


:D

[Sonny]

LOL!!! A hyperactive ol' man:D

[ol' man]

Originally posted by sonny
LOL!!! A hyperactive ol' man:D

Yeah I ain't that old. I got finals comming up soon:D

[Sonny]

Originally posted by ol' man
Yeah I ain't that old. I got finals comming up soon:D :eh?: ;) :D

[ol' man]

And the end result. Ready for coolant and a chip. I got the coolant:D


http://hhrol.bobsville.com/block7.jpg

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/block8.jpg

[ol' man]

Can you guys see my pics?

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by ol' man
Can you guys see my pics?

yup, and they sure are pretty :).....looks like uyoure putting some nice torture oin that Celly....good lcuk man, i know you can hit the big 2.0

[ol' man]

Well I have been running this cooler on a PII 233@ 315Mhz with prime and a vcore of 2.9v. L2 cache is enabled. At this speed I calculated the watts produced are about 45w~50w. Here are the specs for the older PII.

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/PIIspec.jpg


As you can see at 300MHz it is producing 43w and since I upped the vcore a little and am running the speed a little over 300MHz is where I came up with the calculation of 45w~50w. I did the slope between the two points of x=233 and y=34.8, and x=300,y=43. With this I found out the slope and got the watts produced to be 44.9 @ 2.8vcore but I am running 2.9 so that is where I figure in the extra watts produced. I know there is a formula for this but I am too lazy to find it. I figure this will be good enough to get a better estimate of what my cooling system can handle. Anyway here is a pic of the setup. It is highly GHETTO right now as it is only a test and I see no reason to set it up inside of a case for this.

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/PIIblock.jpg

The reason it is so bulky on the chip is because I have a C clamp holding the block against the PII cold plate.

It had ran for about 8 hours before I turned on the computer about 4 hours ago and the temps so far have not gotten higher than -15 deg. C in the coolant res. I have no way of finding out the temp of the block and cpu right now cause I guess with this mobo the on board thermistors quit working when they hit 0. and the PII does not have a internal thermistor.So far there have been no leaks and condensation anywhere but this is a slot cpu and things will be different when I set it up on a sock370 mobo. It for one should be alot neater of a set up than what I have here. I am going to make a special cover for the block and that is the reason my block to socket attachment is so high. It is to allow the insulation to fit under it.


Well folks I am about done for now here and I will keep you updated as too how well it keeps up with this chip. Before I set this up like this the highest stable speed I could hit with this chip was around 266~280MHz at same vcore. These older PII's were hindered by the L2 cache speed by I think the max being 150~175MHz. Someone tell me if I am wrong here. This is why I cannot get it go higher I guess. If I disabled the l2 cache I probably could but I have not that yet as I know how slow it makes the computer and I am using it right now so I don’t want to do that. The watts being produced are enough.

Here is a pic of the tools I used to make the block above(stove included).

http://hhrol.bobsville.com/blocktools.jpg


So as you can see you do not need a whole lot of tools to do this. One item I noticed I forgot to add was a socket for tightening up the barbed fittings. You could use a wrench or vice grip for this also. Some may want to use a pliers even and strip the fittings but I opted against this.


One other note is that this is a very quiet setup and currently I am running the coolant pump at 7v and it seems the loudest things about this setup are actually the two PSU fans.

Now only if my chip would come in the mail we would get some real figures.

[ol' man]

Update

I used the utiliy radiate to find out exactly the amounts of watts this system is dissapating and here is what I found out.


http://hhrol.bobsville.com/cool.jpg

I am sitting at 48.4 watts usually. I have been running this chip now for a good ~9 hours now at load and the temps have stayed at -12 deg. C and that is where they seem to stop. So when my celery gets back to me it should do just fine keeping the chip around -10 deg. C.

I am not sure but is this amount of watts supposed to be load or idle?

[Pinky]

So, dinner at your place, say Tuesday ;)

can have arctic silver salad and lime-green coolant coffee :p

you + job = less time to burn out old P2 chips! lol

Awesome job. You're schooling me for sure!

[Yobbzz]

Where did you get that radiate ulity?

[ol' man]

Originally posted by Yobbzz
Where did you get that radiate ulity?



http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index27.asp#UTILITIES

[Tiger]

ol' man (without disrespect) I am setting up a similar system at present and wanted to know how you went about the insulation of the w/b and proc. Did you you go about it in the same way as a pelt? How have you protected the traces on the proc? I'd appreciate some guidance - thanks.

[ol' man]

How about the old saying a pic is worth a thousand words.


Will this do?

[ol' man]

Prelim results.

[Stephen Castles]

cool, you got a 400+ Mhz overclock. NICE JOB !!!

[Tiger]

Thanks ol' man. Looks like you have some serious perma-frost lying on the neoprene at the bottom. Are you running 24/7? Whats the black wrapper you used around the ?neoprene insulation?