Speed up Torrent downloads

[RIPSTER]

Im currently downloading a few torrents and they are at quite low speeds despite the numerous seeds and peers they are connected to, im using Utorrent. Normaly I get very good speeds 20-30kbps+ but now its 0-6kbps

any tips on speeding up downloads?


thnx

[Karbon]

1) upload at a higher rate, BT protocol is supposed to let those who upload faster also download faster

2) make sure port is forwarded

3) if your router can handle it, set the max # of connections per torrent, and global, higher. It sounds like this isn't a problem though.

That's all I can think of. If you wait a couple hours you should start downloading faster, which you probably know (or have already done)

[RIPSTER]

2) make sure port is forwarded

what does this mean and how do I do it?

[DvBoard]

Are there many leechers/seeders?

[RIPSTER]

Are there many leechers/seeders?

There are 6 seeds and I'm connected to them all

I'm assuming your referring to peers as leechers there are 50 and I'm connected to 23

[Neuromancer]

If you are running XP SP2 then you need to hack your tcpip.sys file to allow more half open tcp connections.

I usually set mine at either 100 or 200

Get it here (http://www.lvllord.de/?url=tools)

[RIPSTER]

kk done that just gotta restart ill tell you how it goes

[RIPSTER]

I left Utorrent on overnight and I awoke to 0.1kbps, the download was at 20% so at one point through the night the download speed must have been reasonably high, Im just not used to such low speeds. Any more help?

[asusradeon]

If you are running XP SP2 then you need to hack your tcpip.sys file to allow more half open tcp connections.

I usually set mine at either 100 or 200

Get it here (http://www.lvllord.de/?url=tools)

if your using bitlord it automatically sets this to 500

[RIPSTER]

ic, im using Utorrent. I just dont understand why the speeds are so low since I got up about 3 hours ago the speeds havnt reached 5kbps right now theyre at 2.3kbps and the other at 0

[PhysX]

i guess it mainly depens on how many seeders there are, i belong to this one torrent site which is private now, anyway 10 seeders = 1MB/sec for me to dl even if my upload were set to 1kb/sec but usually i hae it unlimited for the ratio thingy.

[RIPSTER]

anyway you can invite me :P?

[RIPSTER]

I'm convinced that there is a problem not with the seeders/leechers but with my net connection and PC, files that would normally download fast are not going above 2kbps. What could be the problem?

[RIPSTER]

Could it be possible that my ISP is restricting torrent downloads I dont know if this is possible but I remember some ISP's restrict P2P networks. Is torrenting classed as P2P?

[Smokeys]

numerous seeds and peers

There are 6 seeds and I'm connected to them all

I'm assuming your referring to peers as leechers there are 50 and I'm connected to 23

6 Seeds and 23 peers is not numerous in the torrent world, you just don't have that many sources to download from.

Other then making sure your upload is at a maximum of 80% of your upload speed, forwarding a port, and not using 6667 (very likely to be throttled by your isp) there's nothing you can do.

[David]

2 seeds, 280 Kb/s on a torrent I'm on just now. It may just be that all the seeds are saturated with other downloaders.

[RIPSTER]

how can I determine what my upload speed is?

How do I forward a port?

How do I make sure Im not using 6667? which port should I use

[Neuromancer]

Run through all these steps (http://torrentfreak.com/speed-up-bitcomet-and-%C2%B5torrent/). I am not familiar with uTorrent, but once I tweaked BitComet to run properly on my system limited connections per IP and such, twekaed max upload and set max connections to just under what I set tcpip.sys too it really made an improvement. I was actually able to achieve max download speed of my broadband connectino.

However, this is not a rule, but an exception you are still limited to what the seeders upload speeds are divided by number of peers.

(peers are not leechers, they are people that are also downloading but do not have 100% of the file yet, as long as the peers have more of the file then you do, you should be downloading from them as well).

[RIPSTER]

what should my "number of connections" setting section be set to?

[FireMogle]

You havent said that your ports are fwd yet so make sure you do that if you are behind a router wtih a nat device. Log into the router and you should find it under applications or somthing like that, if not look at the manual. Now look in your torrent apts prefs to see what ports it uses, and plug those into the port fwding page. Should get some better speeds by doing so.

Also in the area of p2p filtering, call your isp and find out if they do. If it is port filtering there are ways around that(check your ULA) that are fairly easy to fix. If they use some sort of packet shaping its a little tricky.

[RIPSTER]

I dont use a router so I dont think port forwarding applies to me, I connect directly through an ADSL USB Modem, its a crappy "Voyager 105" modem that came free from my ISP.

[RIPSTER]

Ive finally got limewire installed after a big JRE problem and it wont connect, Ive gone through all the settings and I've tried using the "use UPnP" option and also specifying a certain port then adding that port to allowed list under NIS rules for Limewire but I still cant connect.

what can I do?

[Murdochs_mad]

I dont know much about uTorrent's settings, but have been told to enable transfer encryption, as it is supposed to get round most ISP filtering. I used Azureus, which has the option for encryption. But never experienced slow down.

[Enablingwolf]

This is a rather small but healthy torrent. See if it goes fast for you.

Endian Firewall (http://linuxtracker.org/download.php?id=3364&name=EFW-COMMUNITY-2.1-200701010332.iso.torrent)

Home page for the firewall distro
http://www.endian.it/en/community/


I was in by 25 second. It was heading upwards over 100K/bs. If it is still slow after a few minutes. You know for sure it is on your side.

I will help seed it with my line, just to make sure it is healthier. There will be a for sure 80kB/s+ in the mix for a time. Least the share you can grab anyways.

[RIPSTER]

When I start a torrent with azureus I get the error

Error: Index: 26, Size: 26 (start)

whats that about, also I previously downloaded 20% of a file with Utorrent, when I start the same torrent with Azureus and point it to the folder containing the partially downloaded files it gives me the error

Error: Existing data file length too large [60000000>0]: C:\Documents and Settings\Maryam\My Documents\Downloads\Half Life 2 [Pal Multi 5 Fr.Eng.Ger.Ita.Spa] by DME\Half Life 2 [Pal Multi 5].part09.rar

If I delete the RAR file it no longer gives me the error but switches to the first error.

what to do?

[RIPSTER]

When I start a torrent with Azureus I get the following error:

Error: Index: 26, Size: 26 (start)

This same file I am trying to download was previously partially downloaded by Utorrent, when I add the torrent and point Azureus to the folder containing the partialy downloaded files I get the following error:

Error: Existing data file length too large [60000000>0]: C:\Documents and Settings\Maryam\My Documents\Downloads\*File Name* part09.rar

If I delete the problematic "part09.rar" file the error message goes away and the first error message comes back.

what to do?

[killermiller]

I would just start the torrent over, you would hate to actually finish that download to find out that switching cliets corrupted your data.

I have relativley good luck with azereus, but what it looks like you are explaining is that there are 6 seeders who all have their upload for that torrent to 1k or something. Divide that by 20something leachers who all have there upload set low and that sounds like an unhealthy torrent. This would be a good time to practice that one thing, what do they call it... oh yeah, patience:)

Azereus show that average swarm speed, what does it say?

[RIPSTER]

its not too bad now, im getting around 8kbps it went up to 20 a while ago so im hoping if I leave it on overnight it will reach 20 again

[Femto]

Here is an excellent website that helped me a lot when setting up forwarding my ports.

http://portforward.com/routers.htm

[RIPSTER]

Thanks I was on that website earlier when I was trying to configure my connection settings to allow transfers from an IRC Channel couldn't do it in the end :(, the reason I gave up was because I figured that the port forwarding website was for Router configuration ONLY, all the connection devices listed are routers, so I'm guessing the reason I encountered problems while following them is because they dont apply to ADSL USB Modems, also my modem wasn't listed so the guide I was following was the closest model to it.

[don256us]

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I'm assuming your referring to peers as leechers there are 50 and I'm connected to 23
Leechers are not peers. They are people who download only and return nothing to the community. 23 people are uploading data from you. They'll take ALL of the bandwidth you give them.

I know that this goes against BT logic however, limit your upload to 80% of your total upload bandwidth. Seriously. What ever your upload is (E.G. 384 kb) take 80% of that (307 kb) and make that your limit. You'll find that everything on your network to the Internet is happier including BT.

[Enablingwolf]

Actually in terms of BT. The 384kb/s is really 48kB/s. You divide by 8 to find the real speed. At least for torrent usage.

So that 80% would translate to around 38kB/s for the upload. If he has a 384 upload. :D

[archangelgabe]

its not too bad now, im getting around 8kbps it went up to 20 a while ago so im hoping if I leave it on overnight it will reach 20 again

I've getting very similar speeds at my settings. Granted I'm working off 1500kbps download and 278kbps upload courtesy of www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/. I don't bother with the calculations myself, I just plug it into the AZ calculator (http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html) and plug in the settings it gives me. The only difference is that I cap my max download speed at 50. (FYI I've never reached 50 ever)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Dragoon1/azureus-upload.jpg

My settings from the calc.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Dragoon1/azbot.jpg

I also did the lvllord tcp connection hack since I run XP SP2. I set it to 50 since having too many isn't good either.

What is everyone else's settings?

[crazed]

For the love of God please uninstall Limewire if you still have it on your system. Also I noticed you said that you're downloading a "few" torrents at once. If your ISP is in fact limiting BitTorrent traffic, you're going to want to take it easy and download as few torrents at a time as possible. By doing this you increase your Upload : Download ratio on the tracker and in return will be given more connections to other sources and hopefully faster speeds.

As far as BitTorrent clients go, I recommend Azureus because it has a robust plug-in system and features decentralized tracking by getting sources from other peers.

[Mr.Guvernment]

Use an encrypted torrent client as many ISP's now block or slow down p2p traffic.

bitcomet is my preference.

[RIPSTER]

For the love of God please uninstall Limewire if you still have it on your system

Why, I still use Limewire occasionally for media I cant obtain from other sources, will it affect dload speeds even if it is not running or is it just your preference to not use Limewire

[crazed]

Personal preferences, I guess that came out a bit harsh. However it is my experience that the Gnutella network is full of dupes and mislabeled songs (wrong artists, titles, etc.). If you're looking for hard to find music, I suggest SoulSeek or probing around for an invite to a private tracker that specializes in music. I'm currently not a member, but I here Kray tracker is excellent in that field.

[Xenocide]

Personal preferences, I guess that came out a bit harsh. However it is my experience that the Gnutella network is full of dupes and mislabeled songs (wrong artists, titles, etc.). If you're looking for hard to find music, I suggest SoulSeek or probing around for an invite to a private tracker that specializes in music. I'm currently not a member, but I here Kray tracker is excellent in that field.

please do not discuss the downloading of copyrighted materials on this forum

[emceepecks]

please do not discuss the downloading of copyrighted materials on this forum

Heh, I was wondering what happened to my thread :shrug:. Sorry about that, I'll make sure to read the rules before posting. :thup:

But to stay on topic, there are a few things you can try to improve your speeds. First, try using a really high numbered port, like 55555 and see if speeds increase. Also like most other people already said, make sure you limit your upload to about 80%.

[crazed]

please do not discuss the downloading of copyrighted materials on this forumI understand that rule and I will heed your warning, but I never talked about downloading copyrighted music, just music in general. Not all music available for download through p2p is copyrighted. I was simply giving him some examples about the pros and cons about each network.

[Xenocide]

I understand that rule and I will heed your warning, but I never talked about downloading copyrighted music, just music in general. Not all music available for download through p2p is copyrighted. I was simply giving him some examples about the pros and cons about each network.

the shady thing was you supplied names of places to go for those sources (a certain tracker site). i understand you never said anything about copyrighted music, but that whole general topic is very shady and watched with a close eye on these forums by the moderators and admins.

Personally id rather hear from a member than a mod :beer:

Just lookin out bro!

[RIPSTER]

ok now im realy FRUSTRATED I just started the same torrent Ive been trying to dload for 2 weeks at my friends and immediatley the speed went up to 12kbps, whereas the speed on my pc wont reach anywhere near this it doesnt have any more seeds or peers than when I was tryint to dload it, it wont even reach 1kbps. So now I know there is definitley something wrong with my connection. The following is a list of all the things you guys have told me to do.

1- Max open connections thing (I dont have a SP installed so it doesnt apply to me)

2- My ISP does not limit P2P networking and I have not exceeded any bandwidth limits

3- Transport encryption, I tried this anyway to be sure does not make a difference

4- Internet security software cant be the problem, before I was using norton and now im using kaspersky on both pieces of software I made sure my torrent client was fully permited access

5- Ive tried various torrent clients Utorrent, azureus etc

6- I dont have a router so port forwarding is not an issue I connect through a USB DSL modem.

thats about it

pleeease help

[emceepecks]

Maybe your USB port is on dieing? If you can, try connecting by ethernet. At this point I have no idea.

[RIPSTER]

hmmm I dont think so, all other internet related tasks are up to speed, web browsing etc, another problem that may be related is problems with limewire, it takes very long to connect and most of the time it doesnt connect at all, also the speed on limewire is very slow.

[RIPSTER]

btw my modem doesnt have an ethernet port

[RIPSTER]

any more info welcome I still am experiencing same problems

[RIPSTER]

So I finaly contacted my ISP and me and a very nice well informed advisor had a chat, In the end he said that PlusNet my ISP does not priorities P2P downloads.

So seems like im stuck with bad P2P download speeds. Any way I can get around these restrictions?

[klingens]

Yes: get a new ISP.

No ISP ever "prioritizes" P2P, but they can and probably do throttle it actively.

[grumperfish]

Either get a new ISP, drop limewire and get a bittorrent client that is better about encryption .. the newest version of bitcomet does this along with giving you manual control over your tcpip.sys settings (utorrent also offers encryption).

Since you're on adsl it might help to actually reduce the number of active and global connections available, and your usb connection might be messing you up as well- if you're going to stay with that ISP try and get a dsl modem with an ethernet connection sent to you. I've had problems with usb connections that way when I was on bellsouth dsl, but switching to ethernet helped matters. I have to agree with changing your ports as well, and making sure your modem is forwarding them correctly (does it have a built-in firewall and web interface that you can access?). I always use something around port 35000 or so since it's not a usual BT port.

Heh... I just tried that AZ calculator... it's telling me to set 288 max peers per torrent... I know the university connection here is fast and all, but this many connections would kill my browsing, and not to mention put up all kinds of red flags to the local isp.



Edit:
Ahh ok- makes sense
VVVV

[RIPSTER]

I just done a fresh install of XP from an ooold disc I couldnt find my XP with SP2 slipstreamed

[RIPSTER]

How can an ISP tell what is P2P traffic and what isnt, I could be downloading a 300mb file via a web browser from a website or via a torrent how can they be diffrentiated

[grumperfish]

It's just a different kind of protocol- certain ISP's look for BT protocol and prioritize it differently from http (web browsing)/ftp protocol and so on.

That's where encryption is useful when using bittorent.

[RIPSTER]

so encryption is a sure fire way of disguising P2P activity from an ISP?

[Mr.Guvernment]

currently yes, but then an ISP can just look at the amount of traffic from x user and if they think it is too much throttle you back anyways - and you would never even know about it.

ISP's can track every last byte of data you see or send if they wanted to.