Powerleap Review

[funnyperson1]

I. Overclocking


Nous n'avons pas été très loin dans l'overclock du système ainsi équipé. En effet, le PL-iP3/T n'empêche en rien l'augmentation du FSB, mais en revanche interdit tout réglage du voltage processeur. Celui-ci est fixé à 1,475 volts et impossible à modifier. Contacté à ce sujet, PowerLeap nous a expliqué qu'un système de modification du voltage sur la carte adaptatrice aurait posé des problèmes d'intégration, ce que l'on peut facilement imaginer.
Déception donc ? Pas vraiment. Il ne sera évidemment pas possible de battre des records d'overclock, mais le core Tualatin est susceptible d'atteindre une fréquence moyenne entre 1,3 et 1,4GHz à son voltage d'origine. Cependant, notre Céléron a peu de change de passer la barrière des 1,6GHz.



basicaly it says you cant change the coltage, but the Celly can still reach speeds of 1.4 without upping it (mine can boot at 1500 without voltage boost)....

[DocClock aka MadClocker]

Huh??? Me no speaky french

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by funnyperson1

basicaly it says you cant change the coltage, but the Celly can still reach speeds of 1.4 without upping it (mine can boot at 1500 without voltage boost)....

[Yodums]

Hmmm no voltage change? Blah I would just get a Tualatin ready board and the chip itself.

[CrystalMethod]

Hmmm... wonder if the wire wrap works with the adapter...
Anyone got a couple of bucks so I can do some testing? ;)

[ol' man]

It is bull s*** to think you can get above 110fsb without a vcore bump with this adapter. I have known many and 110fsb is the highest it will go. There was a article at [H] that showed how the powerleap adapter only sets the vcore to 1.32 by default. You could wire trick it just fine but

WHY IS THE VCORE SO LOW IN THE FIRST PLACE?


That is bull s***!


I still stand by the possibility that the vcore and the vtt voltages are on the same circut.

Which could possibly be the case with the ASUS also.


Thank God I cleaned my hands of that ASUS junk.

Not sure why more people think making something to run that out of spec as the power leap adapter is doing is kind of odd. That is really odd in fact. It points to one thing and you know what that is.

That tells me that most likely they had to do some kind of weird hack to get it too work.

There is no way you are going to hit 1400MHz with only 1.32 vcore. Like i said the highest I have heard anyone hitting with it was 110 fsb and even then they said it was not stable. 105fsb is about where the average is.


So funnyperson your chip will not hit 1600MHz on the ASUS huh? Not a good board man.

[funnyperson1]

no, its hitting 1450 stable at default voltage, i will flash the new bios that will allow voltage upping and see how high i can hit...if at 1.5Vcore if can boot at 1500, thats pretty nice....my dad's NIC is having problems though....

[ol' man]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
no, its hitting 1450 stable at default voltage, i will flash the new bios that will allow voltage upping and see how high i can hit...if at 1.5Vcore if can boot at 1500, thats pretty nice....my dad's NIC is having problems though....

Yeah I told you it would cause of the TUSL2 instability above a certain FSB. I thought your Dad was not going to OC:D You are now paying the price. What are your temps like. 1450 is normal for any tualatin chip at default. If you can hit 1500MHz stable then that is not bad but I doubt you will be able to. How do you know it is your dads nic card that is causing the problem. i found 1450 about the point where the TUSL2 pooped out cause of weird unknowns. This was before the cryo cooling. That kinda scared me at first. I noticed that when I first had the chip on the TUSL2 it booted at 1600MHz and 1.475vcore but not windows. I then got the OC'n bug and started upping the vcore after I flashed the bios but it was hot. I then cryo cooled it to hit big numbers. I then took all that off and it sitll would boot at 1.475v but a couple of days later that quit working on me. Of course at this point I was running the temps at around 50 deg. C and the fsb at 134 with the vcore at 1.85. Hmmm, sounds like a nice way to make FRIED CHIP???????? Especially if the vtt is on the same circut. Hopefully you can get all FSB's up to 134 with that chip at low vcores cause if not and you try and run the chip like I did you may quite fast infact burn it up to be able to only run it at a little over 1400MHz cause of the buggy FSB limitations of the TUSL2.

[ol' man]

Also I was saying above you were talking about the powerleap adapter like it should hit 1400MHz at default. Well I thought that was clear the powerleap adapter at default is 1.32v.

Didn't you start this thread talking about the adapter. Am I missing something here???????

Once again the powerleap adapter runs the vcore at 1.32v and not where it is supposed to be. You will not hit 1400MHz with this unless you have a freak chip but I have heard about 5 people now say the same thing. The adpater poops out around 105~110 fsb. No way it is going to hit 1400 on 1.32v.

[funnyperson1]

i convinced him to let me play with it a little, no wire tricks for me though....

[ol' man]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
i convinced him to let me play with it a little, no wire tricks for me though....

ARGGGGGG, you are not listening?

What was the FRENCH stuff about up top. Like I can read french;)

What you said in your first post was wrong.

[funnyperson1]

i was replying to your post when you said "i thought you dad wasnt overclocking", and my first post was a summary of the french stuff....

[ol' man]

Originally posted by funnyperson1
i was replying to your post when you said "i thought you dad wasnt overclocking", and my first post was a summary of the french stuff....

Yeah dude I know that but the info you gave is wrong up there. You cannot hit 1400MHz with these adapters running 1.32v. There is no way. Try it your self and tell us what you think. O yeah I forgot you don't have voltage adjustments that low;)

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by ol' man


Yeah dude I know that but the info you gave is wrong up there. You cannot hit 1400MHz with these adapters running 1.32v. There is no way. Try it your self and tell us what you think. O yeah I forgot you don't have voltage adjustments that low;)

well the review didnt say anything about the voltages being that low, and i just summarized what i understood....now if i could only get an A in french...:p

[DaveB]

I just got a PowerLeap to play with and ol' man is right. There's no way you're gonna run it at 1400 MHz. The best it would do was 1260 MHz (105 MHz FSB) and at that speed couldn't run Prime95 for more than a few minutes. It could run it all night at default though. Mine's either going to a friend with an old Dell, or back to PowerLeap. I put back my old PIII 700 @ 994 MHz since it scored 50 point higher in 3DMark2001 than the 1.2 GHz Tualatin Celly did.

[Yodums]

Oh man thats sad news!~

You can't even hit 105fsb stable!?

[ol' man]

Originally posted by tsunami
Oh man thats sad news!~

You can't even hit 105fsb stable!?

Well the vcore is at 1.32v! How do you expect to OC with that vcore:confused:


But if I was to OC I would want to knwo if the vtt/AGTL bus is on the same circut. Seems that they may be and this is the reason for the low intitial vcore. It owuld be nice if I was wrong. If I am then I would mayeb in the future get a couple adapters only without the chip.

Hey Dave, what markings does the chip have. Is it a Phillipines made chip? OEM?

[Ruiner]

Ouch! That suxors! Was that with the stock crap HSF?
Time for the wire-trick methinks. :burn:

[DaveB]

I didn't take it off. I never tried it with my Alpha PEP66 since it's obvious it isn't O/C'ing due to insufficient voltage. I've been doing this long enough to know. I use SoftFSB to play with the FSB and the minute you change the FSB to 100 MHz or higher, it locks right up. Heat doesn't work that fast, so it has to be the core. Anyway, if my friend buys it for his old Soyo SY-6BB, maybe I can convince him to take off the heatsink to take a look.