A new concept

[bluetoast]

Forget about submerging your computer in liquids!. Why not just hook up a couple radiators and submerge thoes. :santa:

[[O-CuK]Marci]

Been done MANY times in the past. Works fine... but then you need to cool the liquid that you've submerged the radiators in.

[batboy]

Yeah, for this to work good, you need to circulate cool water. For example well water around here averages 16 degrees C. Pump this into a tub with an overflow drain and you have some great cooling.

[bluetoast]

I see, so this wont work in in lets say... a pool of 10 gallons of (any still liquid)?

edit: Im thinking of going watercooling, using a different concept, No pumps.

[bluetoast]

sry double post.

[Clockwork_Apple]

edit: Im thinking of going watercooling, using a different concept, No pumps.
No pumps? No chance :rolleyes:

[Mycobacteria]

Maybe there is a chance... it would be like a massive heat pipe... there are no pumps in a heat pipe system yet liquids flow in them via convection (apparently)....

[Mycobacteria]

Its strange but it takes a lot of energy to heat water up 1 L of water by 1 degree C. (I think this is the units that cals are based on)

If you have say 100 L of water it will now take an eternity to heat the water using a PC.

[bluetoast]

Maybe there is a chance... it would be like a massive heat pipe... there are no pumps in a heat pipe system yet liquids flow in them via convection (apparently)....

My idea exactly, Think it would be possible?

[hitbyaprkedcar7]

My idea exactly, Think it would be possible?

So basicialy, your describing a massive heatpipe system that can cool your cpu? In otherwords, a heatsink? Like.. The scythe ninja? Or the tuniq tower? Even then, those are hard to run fanless with an overclocked system. Youd have to underclock your CPU most likely, or have it in a very cold ambient.

[bluetoast]

...sorta, but im talking about emerging a radiator in water, and running tubes from the radiator to a water block on the cpu. Without using a water pump.

[Moto7451]

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1211/

Pumpless has been done too. With a 10 Gallon container, depending on the surface area of the container and its construction (i.e. relatively thin plastic or metal and not insulated), you could run without a radiator and let natural convection do its thing.

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1218/
http://www.overclockers.com/tips1218/index02.asp

[QuietIce]

I suppose if the pipes are big enough and the heat differential is large enough you might flow enough water to keep your CPU cool ...

[bluetoast]

I've been doing some reasearch over the net. It seems its not possible =(. BUT thoes did work on old processors such as low budget durons or p3's. Unless anyone has another idea. Im giving up on this idea for a while..

[billb]

I've been doing some reasearch over the net. It seems its not possible =(. BUT thoes did work on old processors such as low budget durons or p3's. Unless anyone has another idea. Im giving up on this idea for a while..It can be done. Just a sampling of work by others.
http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/papers/2002/thermosyphon.pdf
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=12706&highlight=passive+cooling
http://overclockers.com/tips1215/
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=12045&highlight=thermosyphon (http://www.overclockers.com/articles1246/)
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=336871&rl=1

[Immortal_Hero]

For a heat pipe to work there has to be a quick phase change. The liquid in heat pipes has to turn into a gas when heated then cool back to a liquid when cooled. This is usually some alcohol based substance. How do you propose to evaporate all that water with a CPU?

If you just put a vat of water on your CPU the water around the CPU will get hotter and hotter and casue thermal meltdown.

[bluetoast]

It can be done. Just a sampling of work by others.
http://www.hpl.hp.com/research/papers/2002/thermosyphon.pdf
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=12706&highlight=passive+cooling
http://overclockers.com/tips1215/
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=12045&highlight=thermosyphon (http://www.overclockers.com/articles1246/)
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=336871&rl=1

Any other ideas?

[Moto7451]

I've been doing some reasearch over the net. It seems its not possible =(. BUT thoes did work on old processors such as low budget durons or p3's. Unless anyone has another idea. Im giving up on this idea for a while..

It works on newer machines as well. The Duron in that example puts out ~60W of heat at stock which is very close to a Core 2 Duo or Athlon 64. 5-10 Gallons of water requires a lot of heat to raise its temperature.

[bluetoast]

Hmm, think my fish tank might work? It will keep them nice and snug at night =p.