Newbie needs help (The Dataman)

[The Dataman]

Hello everyone. I have a Duron 700 currently running at 850 (100x8.5). I tried running at 900 (100x9) and it boots but McAfee Virus Scanner throws up an error when Windows starts(98 SE btw). I have already upped the core voltage by .2 of a volt. Temps are 40c idle, 44c load (Prime95).

I have just tried FSB105 and Dram140 but it failed Prime95. :eh?:

Any ideas on how to make my little baby run faster?
I've got a Retail HSF rated upto 1.4Ghz and a 250w PSU.
Could the PSU be the limiting factor?

My friend 13oots2 says that if anyone knows the answer it will be you guys. :D

Cheers in advance.

The Dataman

[Jeniva]

Id get a higher wattage PSU...if your voltage is droping to much, that can cuase stability issues...please correct me if im wrong...

[PsYko420]

I totally agree spend the extra cash for a new 300w psu maybe even 350w. You could lower those temps to help stability alot if you put some resources into some case fans. Retail HSF's may be rated for higher cpu's but that means if you don't oc them at all, so i also suggest you get a new hsf try a sk6 or the new swiftech.

[nikhsub1]

First of all McAfee sucks! Get rid of it, nothing but problems! Yes I think a 250W PSU is very weak. Get a good PSU 400W or above and you'll have it forever. Enermax, Sparkle, Antec etc. This is truly the one piece of equipment that you keep a lifetime. Definately not the component to chince on IMO.

[minoukat]

if it's a temp problem, try getting a better HSF.

[13oots2]

Glad you made it Merrick:) . Now you are bitten by the bug a new PSU and HSF should be on the cards. Run Prime95 then post your voltage measurements from MBM, it could be the PSU is not up to the job.

Also you could try increasing your core voltage a little more, but I would think that is going to take your temps up a little bit close to 50 C. As an after though I know you are thinking of a new Graphics Card. That is really going to put some pressure on that 250W PSU, so I reckon that should really be your next purchase. Will let you know some prices tomorrow.

Mark:)

[The Dataman]

Thanks for all the advice. I hear what you're all saying about the PSU. Oh yeah, it is only 250w. It would appear I will have to get a new more powerful one.

I was wondering if before I get a new PSU, whether there is any scope for getting more out of my little beast in its current spec...perhaps by playing around with the core voltage. I've got .15v to play with on the MoBo.

I have included a pic of MBM's Dashboard, can anyone tell me what this all means please, as I am the newest of newbies!:o

[Hugo 59]

I would up the voltage. Then try running prime 95 again upping the voltage helps with stability. Just keep a constant eye on the temps.

[The Dataman]

I have just upped the voltage to 1.725/1.75, though MBM reads it at 1.81v for some reason.

I have changed to a 9x multiplier and this time I didn't get a McAfee error when windows started. However, I tried Prime95 and it couldn't take it.

Should I up the voltage to 1.775/1.8 or just give up and get a new PSU?

Here's what MBM has to say now with the voltage increased and running 9x multiplier.

P.S. Should CPU be reading 931MHz ?

Cheers, The Dataman

[minoukat]

your -12 volt is pretty low

[The Dataman]

Originally posted by minoukat
your -12 volt is pretty low

What does that mean? Will upping the core voltage more help? Or am I just getting a bit carried away with it all...:burn:

(13oots2, it's all your fault!:D )

[Hugo 59]

Most motherboards will actually give the cpu more voltage they are over spec so if you have it set to1.75 it will actually be higher. On my Iwill KK266 when I have it set at 1.85 it runs at 1.92.

If I were you I would keep upping the voltage till you're either able to run prime 95 or you run out of voltage.

Your 12 volt is a little low but the more important 5V is solid.

Just remember to keep an eye on your temps.

[13oots2]

This is great fun isn't it Merrick, no way would you have been doing this two days ago:D . How are your Temps, you could try some decent Thermal grease as I remember you are using standard gunk. Also don't forget you may have to leave your side panels off until we come up with a better cooling solution.

Mark

[The Dataman]

Mega Success...Just!

Wow, that was close!

Disconnected fan to get easier access to core voltage jumpers. Adjusted core voltage to 1.775/1.8 and then booted up on a 9x multiplier. Oops! Forgot to plug fan back in...desperately yanked power lead out whilst trying to keep the contents of my bowells entering my pants at a hundred miles an hour...:eek:

Once I'd stopped shaking I then connected everything back up and started the computer. Boot no problem, no McAfee Virus error on Windows startup. Am currently running Prime95 as I type this with no problems. Yippee!:cool:

Thanks everyone for all your help, couldn't do it without you... :D

Hugo 59, my temps read 43c at the moment, but that's case off, lying on side. Realistically add 4c giving full load temp of 47c. Don't want to push it anymore today, it's been fun. Thanks again.:)

Cheers,

Merrick (The Dataman)

[The Dataman]

A big public THANK YOU 13oots2, for introducing me to the Forum...

This is so much fun...:D

Merrick:)

[Hugo 59]

Congrats!

Now you just need to get a better HSF. So you can up it some more then a bigger powersupply. Then you will be ready for a new chip and mobo, you know something that is really overclockable so you can get a huge oc.

Oh man I think we have created another junkie.:D

Have fun!:beer:

Just remember that when you start spending all your money on overclocking who's fault it is and make him pitch in. After all it's 13oots2 fault.:cool:

[13oots2]

Hey congrats on that one, mind the close shaves though. Been there done it and killed it as you know:( Next step is to try upping your FSB in small steps, this again my require you to raise the Core voltage. This has the advantage of speeding up all cards as well as the memory.

Do you want to come over and see if you can get some more out of my Athlon?:beer:

[minoukat]

Only thing left for today, update your sig :D

[The Dataman]

Originally posted by minoukat
Only thing left for today, update your sig :D

Thanks:o