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COOLER MASTER CM Stacker STC-T01-UWK Black/ Silver Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119039)
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Motherboard
Bad Axe 2
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121059)
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Video Card
EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130072)
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PSU
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341001)
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Processor
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Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701)
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 70SB073A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102006)
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Heatsink
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I was looking at the Tuniq Tower 120 for heatsink but newegg was out so I just put the Zalman for now
So, what do you think
Also, this rig is for games mostly and i do plan to OC a little
lekyiscool
02-11-07, 01:22 PM
are you Ocing
squashfx
02-11-07, 01:25 PM
it would prolly be best to get another cooler if you are o/cing try a scythe
Circaflex
02-11-07, 01:50 PM
the badaxe2 is only 175 at microcenter
yea, i plan on oc'ing
also, these are all from newegg cause i just copied that from my wish list for the most part
i am looking at other stores if the price is significantly different
PSU
http://store.myaopen.com/hp26500pe.html
or
http://store.myaopen.com/gsm6600p.html
The OCZ seem to have a bad ripple and these Zippy are much more stable.
Memory
http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-1676.html
These are just a little bit cheaper and I've seen them get slightly better numbers than the Ballistix.
Switch the heatsink out with either the Tuniq Tower or the Thermalright Ultra 120.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 01:58 PM
PSU
http://store.myaopen.com/hp26500pe.html
Memory
http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-3338-p-1676.html
Switch the heatsink out with either the Tuniq Tower or the Thermalright Ultra 120.
yep and yep.
yep and yep.
nope and nope
at least for the power supply and ram
i do plan on getting the tuniq tower heatsink though
nope and nope
at least for the power supply and ram
i do plan on getting the tuniq tower heatsink though
Care to explain?
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 02:05 PM
nope and nope
at least for the power supply and ram
well that's my suggestion. take it with a grain of salt i guess....but i think i know what i'm talking about ;)
btw, i hope you know with that psu you have listed, you'll be paying more for a lesser unit (you can't just go by what wattage is slapped on the box).
the ram you originally chose is actually a good choice....however....i haven't seen any crucials that can do what my teamgroups can do. ;)
the ram i have researched a good amount and want to stick with it
i also have been told on these forums that the psu i had selected is nice
also, tell me why the psu sucks
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 02:11 PM
if all of your choices are set in stone, i really don't understand the point of this thread. :confused:
BUT,
yes, the ram is good.
the PSU....is well....it isn't the best you can get for your money. but hey, roll the dice....i hope you get lucky. :p
(i will just say however, that psu is very overrated IMO. the ocz powerstream 520w would be a better choice even)
Here is a review of the OCZ GameXtream:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=35
Here is the Zippy:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=14
I'm sure a lot of us would put our money on the Zippy. I myself have the OCZ and am recommending the Zippy. The only reason I have this unit is because I got it for a great price.
nvm here, both posted reasons
i will go look at others now
does anyone have anything better than a zippy?
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 02:16 PM
here is a review of the 700w version of that psu: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=35&page_num=2
allow me to quote:
Things were satisfactory until test 3. During test 3, I started to see ripple on 12V1 and 12V2 that was nearly 100mV. By test 5, the ripple was 100mV on 12V3 and 12V4 and had exceeded 100mV on 12V1 and 12V2. By test 6, the ripple on 12V1 and 12V2 had exceeded 150mV.
ATX specification has an "allowance" for 120mV. Mind you, test 6 was very stressful, pushing the power supply to it's limits, but it doesn't change the fact that the ripple exceeded spec and this is the first power supply to date I have had do this.
for comparison, a review of the 600w version of the psu we are recommending: http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=14
Wow! No existent ripple on the 3.3V and 5V and only about 45mV ripple on the 12V rail, even under a full 40A load.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 02:17 PM
thank you inkfx for giving me a legitimate reason to switch, unlike humanbeatbox just saying switch
i will go look at others now
wow.....you gotta give me more tha 1min to respond...
have fun with your new rig.....hope all goes well. :beer:
well, how many watts do you guys suggest also - cause if i dont need to go up to 600 i really dont want to pay the extra cash
sorry humanbeatbox,i guess i posted rather fast
Zalman ZM600-HP 600W
this one looks great but price is high, but when i froogled it, there are a lot of places that have it as same price as the zippy
That unit is basically the FSP Epsilon and it got a pretty good review by jonnyguru, 9/10. The only thing that I would think may be a problem is with your 8800GTX. I don't see many people using this PSU but I do see a lot of people with the Zippy.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=46
why would 8800 gtx be a problem? From what i know those power supplies are nearly the same, except the only difference is heat. Is that what you were referring to?
listen to them about the PSU they do not lie. as far as the hard drives are concerned look at the seagate perpendiculars they rival raptor performance in many areas.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 06:14 PM
if you don't mind, i'll reply to your PM here, because it could help others that may have the same questions..
I think i have found a nice one that may be a little better than the zippy
Zalman ZM600-HP 600W (http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=46&page_num=1)
it got same review at that site you showed and is up for 120 dollars at various sites
is there anything that you notice that really makes one better than the other
that psu does seem solid. BUT, it has 4 +12v rails, only rated at 16a each. and to quote from the review:
It seems to me that the CPU is on it's own rail, as well as PCI-e #1. CPU-2 or PCI-e #2 is also on it's own rail. Everything else is on a fourth rail. In this sense, the rail distribution is very much like other FSP Epsilon based power supplies, like the OCZ GameXstream.
so, your 8800gtx will only have a max af 16a available to it. i think this will be cutting it a bit thin, but i could be wrong. but, if you don't have a second videocard running, that is a whole 16a wasted right there, because you will never even touch one of the rails. plus, i don't think that all of the other compnents will use up the 16a they get on their own rail, so there is more wasted wattage.
to me, these dual/triple/quad rail psu's are just an easy way to boost the rated "watts" of a psu. the zippy's that were recommended have a single +12v rail, with the 500w rated at 36a and the 600w rated at 40a. IMO, this is a MUCH better approach, but it also requires heavier duty compnents.
zippy is one of the finest names in psu's you can buy. it is rivaled only by PCP&P. they traditionally make psu's used in server applications, and they have been doing it for years. the zippy G1's we have been recommending are their first foray into the "gamer" market, and IMO, you would be hard pressed to find a better psu for the money.
to be totally honest with you, i am no PSU expert. but, i have been around here long enough, and i know who's opinion to trust. the zippy's have been recommended time and time again, by respected members of our forums, and for good reason. hopefully others can pop in to give you more opinions, as Rattle has done, but i think you'll just hear echoes.
*EDIT* also, take a look at Rattle's sig. his OCZ Powerstream 520 has a single +12v rail rated at 30a. it seems to be handling his e6600 and 8800gtx just fine, and the 500w zippy is rated at 36a (as said previously a few times).
if you don't mind, i'll reply to your PM here, because it could help others that may have the same questions..
that psu does seem solid. BUT, it has 4 +12v rails, only rated at 16a each. and to quote from the review:
so, your 8800gtx will only have a max af 16a available to it. i think this will be cutting it a bit thin, but i could be wrong. but, if you don't have a second videocard running, that is a whole 16a wasted right there, because you will never even touch one of the rails. plus, i don't think that all of the other compnents will use up the 16a they get on their own rail, so there is more wasted wattage.
to me, these dual/triple/quad rail psu's are just an easy way to boost the rates "watts" of a psu. the zippy's that were recommended have a single +12v rail, with the 500w rated at 36a and the 600w rated at 40a. IMO, this is a MUCH better approach, but it also requires heavier duty compnents.
zippy is one of the finest names in psu's you can buy. it is rivaled only by PCP&P. they traditionally make psu's used in server applications, and they have been doing it for years. the zippy G1's we have been recommending are their first foray into the "gamer" market, and IMO, you would be hard pressed to find a better psu for the money.
to be totally honest with you, i am no PSU expert. but, i have been around here long enough, and i know who's opinion to trust. the zippy's have been recommended time and time again, by respected members of our forums, and for good reason. hopefully others can pop in to give you more opinions, as Rattle has done, but i think you'll just hear echoes.
*EDIT* also, take a look at Rattle's sig. his OCZ Powerstream 520 has a single +12v rail rated at 30a. it seems to be handling his e6600 and 8800gtx just fine, and the 500w zippy is rated at 36a (as said previously a few times).
33amps !
:beer:
alright, looks like that one is out of the running
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 06:26 PM
33amps !
:beer:
hah, sorry, i just googled it, and the first site i found with the specs, was this: http://www.3dvelocity.com/reviews/powerstream520/ps520.htm
i just looked at the wrong line in the spec sheet. :beer:
its all good buddy
this psu has served me very well, I cannot complain.
woca for real its one of these 2 0r 3 for me in that price range pal, really nothing else is worth looking at in the $120-$140 range
http://store.myaopen.com/hp26500pe.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817163111
its all good buddy
this psu has served me very well, I cannot complain.
woca for real its one of these 2 0r 3 for me in that price range pal, really nothing else is worth looking at in the $120-$140 range
http://store.myaopen.com/hp26500pe.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817163111
and since the Zippy is only $119 I would definitely pick it over the Silverstone. For under $150 you can't do any better.
Shelnutt2
02-11-07, 06:48 PM
I'm going to question your motherboard choice. Why go with it? Why not a P5B-Deluxe or probably a P5W-DH is more your style (better choice for the E6600 as you don't need as high of a FSB for a E6600 and the 975x chipset offers 8x-8x PCI-E lanes for an Xfire setup). Maybe you'd consider an 680i based board if you think you might ever want to run SLI.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 06:54 PM
I'm going to question your motherboard choice. Why go with it? Why not a P5B-Deluxe or probably a P5W-DH is more your style (better choice for the E6600 as you don't need as high of a FSB for a E6600 and the 975x chipset offers 8x-8x PCI-E lanes for an Xfire setup). Maybe you'd consider an 680i based board if you think you might ever want to run SLI.
the one he picked is one of the best mobos for the money right now, for a 9x multi cpu. it, just like the p5w-dh, is a 975x board, and will do 8x/8x crossfire (and also SLI with hacked drivers ;)). mind you the price he's got there is way outta line. i think Gautam mentioned it is available for like $170 somewhere.
I'm going to question your motherboard choice. Why go with it? Why not a P5B-Deluxe or probably a P5W-DH is more your style (better choice for the E6600 as you don't need as high of a FSB for a E6600 and the 975x chipset offers 8x-8x PCI-E lanes for an Xfire setup). Maybe you'd consider an 680i based board if you think you might ever want to run SLI.
Don't get me atarted on mobos again
at first i was looking at sli, then others pointed out that id need a new monitor and another card adding 1000 dollars. instead, ill get one 8800 gtx and get one of the next and best card to come out
so i went looking at 975 chipset mobos
i learned that i would want one cause like you said it will be good for my processor for reasons you posted
now i was looking between some mobos and i liked the asus p5w but people said the bad axe 2 is better
if you think id be beter off with bad axe 2 , asus p5w, or other please tell me
looks like you got me started on mobos:rolleyes:
but it will be worth it, gotta get a good mobo :)
haha poor guy, too many desicions
I never messed with the badaxe, but apparently it maintains a 1066 strap till 450 so its faster than the p5w at over 400. The p5w is a nice mobo and was stable as a rock for me at 3.6 with a 6600. Since it dont OC fsb/ram very well it ended being a boring board for me, so I am going back to a p5b deluxe rev 1.03g, I started with the same mobo, just the first rev.
Other mobos you might wanna consider is the abit Ab9 pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127004
it is the cheapest 965 mobo that has the ICH8R and full feature set aside from another pci-e slot
Really I would recommend intel mobo over nvidia, much more stable and easier to tweak. As far as SLI is concerned if you can afford 2x8800's and have a 1900x1200 or higher screen and ABSOLUTELY NEED THIS then SLI/NV mobo it would have to be.
Dont kill yourself over 975/965. If you want to overclock your ram and mess around alot then go 965 if 400 1:1 is fine for you and you dont care about 500mhz ram then get a 975 p5w or badaxe, although the badaxe is higher clocker as far as fsb/ram.
Im going to chime in and say the Badaxe2 gets my vote hands down. Like stated before, it's only $175 at mircocenter, is 975x chipset, and is a great overclocker.
k, looks like its still the bad axe 2
also, if i go raid, do i need anything additional?
also, can I run ram that is ddr2 1000 on the bad axe 2
i thought no cause newegg says memory standard is ddr2 800
anyone know?
Other than two identical drives, no. I do suggest switching over to some Seagate 7200.10 perpendicular recording drives. Read up on Intel Matrix raid, it may be something you want. I wish I know more about it so I could tell you myself. However, to my understanding you are able to partition the drives and have one partition set to stripe and the other partition for mirror.
damn, the seagates are a much better deal
anyone know of a fan for an 8800 gtx?
and should i get a fan for RAM and mobo
SteveLord
02-11-07, 08:25 PM
the Seagate 320gb version is like $95....hot.
I would like to chime in as well, why not go for sata opticl drives? I just picked up a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106047 for my second drive.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 08:27 PM
anyone know of a fan for an 8800 gtx?
and should i get a fan for RAM and mobo
the gtx shouldn't need an aftermarket fan, unless you plan on going crazy with overclocking, and then i think only water might be better.
the mobo won't need a fan, the ram should be fine.
Shelnutt2
02-11-07, 08:54 PM
OK, well for $175 I guess the Bad Axe is the better buy;).
I just haven't seen much info on the bad axe 2.
how will sata dvd/cd help? is it really that big of difference or no
hUMANbEATbOX
02-11-07, 10:30 PM
no, its not a huge difference. for a HD it really helps, but for a dvd drive i doubt it. the small cables are nice tho.
also, i just saw post about price drops in april
if i do wait until then, should i go e6700 (will be same price as e6600 now) or go with e6600 which is 100 and some less and get something else?
JustChill
02-11-07, 11:59 PM
sorry to jump baack to old topic on this thread but WOCA these guys are only trying to help you make a sound dec. on a good quality PSU. As we all know the PSU is by far the absolute first thing that one should consider when building anything electronical, not to mention a $3k PC. You always start with the life-blood of the PC...POWER... and I do have to toss in my $.02 worth (even if it goes unread) IMHO and I will repeat the O part I think you would be making a major mistake if you do not choose one of the zippy's that were rec. by others. they are an amazing PSU and they will last you a very long time. Most imp. though, your PC will be rock solid and safe with this PSU. You may be thinking I say this cause I own one but it is more ...I own one because I belive this..... to me the best PSU's out there
also, i just saw post about price drops in april
if i do wait until then, should i go e6700 (will be same price as e6600 now) or go with e6600 which is 100 and some less and get something else?
Unless you plan on running like a Mach/Prometia, LN2, or DICE then get the E6600.
JustChill, well you may have missed ht posts, but the psu's in debate now are the zippy, a zalman, and a silverstone, all very similar. Its basically which one has that small edge and lowest price.
hUMANbEATbOX
02-12-07, 09:27 AM
...the psu's in debate now are the zippy, a zalman, and a silverstone, all very similar...
the zalman and the silverstone are similar....the zippy is TOTALLY different (one +12v rail vs. four +12v rails).
the zalman and the silverstone are similar....the zippy is TOTALLY different (one +12v rail vs. four +12v rails).
Plus you can have it for a great price, the Zippy that is.
i honestly dont want to order from them, just cause itd be nice just getting all from new egg, but seeing price and what not i probably will, especially since others havent seem to match price yet and ive been searching around
hUMANbEATbOX
02-12-07, 02:21 PM
that store is AOpen's web store. AOpen is a manufacturer of small form factor pc's, and motherboards. their regular site, with all of the products they make, is here: http://www.aopen.com/
they have even been so kind as to provide a $5 discount for any OCForums members, details can be found here: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=479745&highlight=zippy+discount
well, being that will handle a good chunk of shipping looks lie that is doen
also, do you guys think i should pickup a midtower or full tower?
i heard full cause of 8800 gtx and for cooling but ill ask
here is a nice midtower ive been looking at (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129154)
hUMANbEATbOX
02-12-07, 02:31 PM
personally, i would prefer a full tower, just for the extra space provided, but that case you linked is very nice, i've eyed it myself a few times. ;)
i think it would come down to if the gtx will fit...and on that i have no advice. sorry.
phantasm
02-12-07, 02:50 PM
well, being that will handle a good chunk of shipping looks lie that is doen
also, do you guys think i should pickup a midtower or full tower?
i heard full cause of 8800 gtx and for cooling but ill ask
here is a nice midtower ive been looking at (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129154)
That's a nice case. I went with this: Lian Li PC-A10B (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112122). Of course it doesn't look anything like this anymore. It's all been powdercoated (waiting for the tower still) and cut up to make wire managment easier.
I can understand wanting a full tower, i wanted one for years, then i decided against it for space reasons.
JustChill
02-12-07, 03:31 PM
full tower is the way to go. I have a mid tower and I wish I had got the lain-li v2000 rather than the 1000 it would have made sqeezing my water cooling setup into my case a non isue, instead there were major mods to be made and tons of head scratching as to what would work best.
If you care to look (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=481572) at what my packed out case looks like. Bottom 4 pictures are the way my system looks now.
As for the PSU's you are looking at, the only one you should be dec. on is the 500 or the 600w zippys.........single 12v rail is what you want. anything else will effect your overclocks. the 600w zippy has a 33A 12v rail... I gained about 200 MHZ on my overclock just from the instalation of this psu from a OCZ modstream 520
hUMANbEATbOX
02-12-07, 03:37 PM
the 600w zippy has a 33A 12v rail... I gained about 200 MHZ on my overclock just from the instalation of this psu from a OCZ modstream 520
the 600w zippy has a 40a +12v rail, the 500w has a 36a +12v rail. the ocz powerstream 520 is the one with a 33a +12v rail. ;)
Take the Zippy for sure, but one minor correction, the Silverstone actually has a single 38A rail. The only real reason to take the Zippy above it is newegg's unnecessarily high price. Build quality of the two is very close.
The Bad Axe 2 has my blessing...here (http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=25172 3) is where it can be had for $176.
nice price for a nice mobo
thanks for link, i remember seeing that and being told but forgot where
thats way too much to pass up
JustChill
02-12-07, 09:30 PM
oops thanx for the correction
lekyiscool
02-12-07, 10:26 PM
Justchill very nice lian li did u paint it yourself or is it powder coted
wow, you really packed that thing
ill probably stick with fulltower, it'll be easier for me most likely
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