The Burning Crusade: 30 Days Later

[OcX]

TwitchGuru Article (http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/02/14/the_burning_crusade/)

Pretty good read, a lot of ideas and observations that I agree with. Especially how smoothly the release actually went overall, which inspired me to share some things I discovered on my adventures in BC.
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Thoughts of mine...

The game was released on a Tuesday, the following Wednesday I hit 70. Not the first person by any means, but possibly the top 5-10% of the realm. So there was only a select few that were able to purchase the coveted "Flying Mount."

When you hit 70, the Flying Mount is just about all thats on your mind, hell even 69 for that matter. Not everyone had 6,000g to buy the insanely fast "280% speed Flying mount", Id go so far as to say less then 20% of the server population was able to afford the Epic flying lessons. So, the other 80% of the players on the server had to settle for a "60% speed Flying mount."

Heres the catch: The same people that could only afford the 60% speed flying mount, for the most part, already had a 100% Epic Land Mount before the expansion came out. Meaning their Land mount, was 40% faster then their new 60% Flying mount.


With that said, I was fortunate enough to be able to purchase the 6,000g Epic flying lessons + mount as soon as I hit 70. Simple math tells us that 60 goes into 280 almost 5 times.
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My Long Drawn out Point:

During this brief period of time I was not only one of the few people on the realm to be able to travel to higher level lands, but I was able to do so at 5 times the speed of others. I guess I should have mentioned my professions?

Mining and Herbalism

Think about that for a minute. The ability to completely clear out an entire zone of every single herb and mine plot, and using CT Timer as an estimate on when the veins/plots will respawn.

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All good things must come to an end, and it did. As more and more people reached 70, the amount of supply went up, which naturally caused the prices to level out. Now everyone "undercuts" their competitors auctions in order to "sell first' which drives the price demanded down, which hurts profitability; both long and short term.

Formula for WoW Success:

Epic Flying Mount + Mining + Herbalism + CT MapMod = Why is this zone always empty?

[Jacobman]

Well i dont have a 60 to go into outland but i made a Blood Elf priest and am loving it. All i know is it will be awesome going into outland when the time comes.

[zexmarquies01]

while i don't play WoW, so i don't know how much the stuff you mine and pick is worth and all...

i do play EVE-online. Which the game is based completly around ECONOMY! thats what the ENTIRE game is about...literally. LOTS of graphs, charts showing you the previous prices of any item you wish to know about. How much something is selling for across the galaxy, compaired to how much its selling for where your at.

And while it does suck when prices drop, and you lose profit ( which i know ALL about, i'm a miner in Eve...thats my profession ). its GREAT for everyone else. Surplus of items, plus ALOT of competition means low prices for everyone else!

but, don't feel bad man. This happens ALOT in eve. and by alot...hah, you have no idea. lets put it this way... every single item in the entire game is made by players. ( excluding the most basic of basic ships and equipment ). from the ship you buy, to the turrets you equip, to the ammo you shoot, the afterburners that increase your speed, the extra armor plates you add one....yeah.

prices fluctuate sooo bad in eve is insane. one day, an item will be going for 12 ISK ( in game currency ) per unit. the next day, it will drop to 6 ISK per unit, and stay like that for about a week. then when the huge supply is dried up, the prices shoot up to about 15 - 18 ISK per unit. People make money buying pure ore when its reached a low selling price. they but millions and millions of ISK worth of the stuff. and they hold onto it for about a week or so. when prices shoot back up they make such an insane profit!

so yeah, i know how you feel. this happens to us on a WEEKLY BASIS!


PS. Sorry, didn't mean to thread-jack your thread, and turn it into a topic about eve-online. just stating that i know how you feel when your a miner, and prices fluctuate badly due to insane supply, and alot of competition between other miners.

[Fireside85281]

I don't think the mounts are that huge of a deal. I do think the new items make a big difference, and the new heroic settings for dungeons that are just too easy.

Prices were certainly fluctuating with the BC release. On my server, stacks of copper were selling for 5g+ I made an easy 200g off all the early inflation. I don't sweat the crazy prices. You should notice a pattern to them, bank your stuff when its selling low, and AH it when it's high/out of supply. Too many people haven't figured out the economics yet, and I'll happily profit from their lack of knowledge :D

And don't forget the big change: Sockets, Gems, and actually useful endgame profession skills!

[OcX]

A mount that travels 298% (280% + Riding Crop[10% increase]) is about 5 times as Fast as the cheap mount.

What does that mean for a Gatherer? 500% increase in productivity. So if it takes you 1 hour to farm X amount of herbs and ores, it takes me 12 minutes.

So if your bringing in 20g per hour, with the Fast mount you could bring in 100g per hour, ceteris paribus.

This example really only applies for someone who gathers things like Herbs and Mining Veins. But theres also means to justify the cost of the mount.

1. The Bling Factor - similar to those people that stand on the AH bridge pedestals, for others to inspect them; to be admired. Why else are they standing there?

2. The Epic mounts are about 1% slower then taking a Gryph, however, the Grpyhs dont travel in a Straight line. So in essence, the Epic Mounts will help you arrive to your destination faster, and it doesnt cost you X amount everytime you fly.
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What does this speed equate to over the course of 1 week? 1 month?

Does it justify the cost? You know I never did mention just how much gold I was stacking in that 2 week period when I was one of the few suppliers of extremely high demand ingredients for Alchemists, Engineers, Jewel Crafters, Blacksmiths,etc.. To give you a hint, the mount has paid for itself twice.

Was it worth it?
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[Seven]

I got my human priest to 63, my main. It's a fun experience, but I don't think I'll be leveling much more until summer. I'm a Herb/Alch and it's a great way to make money and keep me equipped with potions and transmutes and things. Very easy to level as well.

My priest is kinda boring, so I'm thinking of leveling a gnome warlock on a different account (for dualboxing) once I get to 70 with my priest this summer.

The game is great though, I'll basically just come in 5 months late, pick up all the gear people are slaving over now with about a week of work, and be right up to date.

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[Careface]

The game is great though, I'll basically just come in 5 months late, pick up all the gear people are slaving over now with about a week of work, and be right up to date.

You're the type of person that made others make the DKP system. Lol.

[El-Scotto]

its not all that tricky to get money in outlands. I started the expansion with almost no gold and no epic land mount. Now i have about a 1000g and my epic kodo and I havent even really been trying to get money :p Then again im a druid so im not even sure if im gonna bother saving up for the epic flying mount when im getting my epic flight form sometime soon :p

[Seven]

It's not epic flight form though. The advantage is having it with almost 0 cast time and nearly for free.

Much like the old cheetah form in WSG and stuff.

I'm at 2500g right now (on all chars), with plans to level a warlock and my priest (currently at 63) to 70 within a feasable timeframe. Shouldn't be too hard though.

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[El-Scotto]

im pretty sure i read a blue post on the forums that druids are getting an Epic Flight form in a future patch :p

[Hambone0750]

We do and it will require the lvl 300 training, so start saving.

[El-Scotto]

Ha yea i just re read it, oh well im still not that worried. like i said gold is not tough at all to get in BC.

[Seven]

The training cost better be 200g for the skill :D

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