How do I run programs over a home network? [Archive]

grs

02-25-07, 01:31 PM

It's me again with more networking questions!!

I have:-

File server (Server)
Laptop (PC1)
Desktop (PC2)

I want to be able to have BitTorrent running on Server downloaded the torrent contents to Server, but I would like to do access it from PC1 or PC2. That way I can Server downloading all the time and freeing up processing power on PC1 and PC2.
Can this be done, if so how?

The_Jizzler

02-25-07, 01:36 PM

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=14565 heres how i do it. just use the built in http gui to control the torrents.

grs

02-25-07, 02:02 PM

Thanks for that. I'm guessing that I can't do it with Bittorrent, only utorrent. Is that right?
What does http GUI mean?

Albaholic

02-25-07, 02:14 PM

He's talking about utorrents web interface, you can go to a specific web address and control all your downloads from there

grs

02-25-07, 02:39 PM

That seems to be working great. Thanks alot.

YoMatta

02-25-07, 05:18 PM

i'm also a big fan of remote desktop =D

grs

02-25-07, 05:41 PM

I've heard a few people mention a program remote desktop but I don't know anything about it, where can I find good information about it?

Also, not really related to this thread, I'm trying the shutdown.exe command to remotely restar/shutdown PC's, when I type in "shutdown -i" the Remote Shutdown Dialog box opens next to the Computers box is a browse button, I click on that and I get an error message saying "The Directory Service Is Currently Unavailable" What does this mean and how can I make it available?

smokie mcpott

02-25-07, 07:37 PM

remote desktop was built into xp pro and with recent windows updates you can get it for home as well...

Albaholic

02-25-07, 08:14 PM

about shutdown -i, your computer is probably not a member of a domain. When you hit browse, the prog is trying to look through active directory. You can still remote shut down by entering the computer's name or IP address

nd4spdbh2

02-25-07, 10:20 PM

i'm also a big fan of remote desktop =D

thats what i do... i ahve a computer thats always on that i use for bit torrent downloading but also a web server and what not.... i just use remote desktop to access the magnet url file from say a networked folder or heck sometimes i use remote desktop and then browse torrent sites on the remote computers browser and what not.

smokie mcpott

02-25-07, 10:50 PM

my server is also my newsgroup grabber...i remote in and browse the newsgroup listings

YoMatta

02-26-07, 01:09 AM

thats what i do... i ahve a computer thats always on that i use for bit torrent downloading but also a web server and what not.... i just use remote desktop to access the magnet url file from say a networked folder or heck sometimes i use remote desktop and then browse torrent sites on the remote computers browser and what not.

this is exactly what i do.

in any case grs, remote desktop = start > run > "mstsc"

type in the name of the computer (which is in the same workgroup).

when you go to connect you have to enter a user name and password that is on the computer you're connecting to. sine i have the same username/pword on all my rigs it's not hard to remember what my login is.

just connect, and you'll be on the target computer's desktop as though it were directly connected to your monitor/kb/mouse.

have fun.

TalRW

02-26-07, 02:08 AM

What I do is I have a server running ubuntu linux. Then I share a folder using SAMBA so my PC can access it. I installed azureus onto the server and have it download the files into the shared samba folder so I can access it from my desktop. When I want to add a new torrent I use VNC to connect to the server and tell it to DL or if it's an HTTP download I can use putty and just use the wget command. Works well for me.

grs

02-26-07, 04:56 AM

I'm trying "mstsc", when I select Computer-Browse for more, then try to select MSHOME Workgroup I get the following error message:-

The MSHOME domain/workgroup does not containany Terminal servers.

Here is a screenshot of the message-
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p20/grsymes/Remoteaccess.jpg

But I have checked and all PC's are in the same Workgroup. However I am having password problems at the moment. The PC1 is able to see and full access Server but Server is not able to see or access PC1. This due to the username/password you put in when your installing Windows, which I don't have at the moment because I bought my PC from my Dell through college and they setup the system with a Ghost image. There is a good chaance I may never get the information from them, and reinstalling Windows won't help because of the Ghost image. If anyone know's how to crack/lookup Windows usernames/password can you let me know!! lol

Albaholic

02-26-07, 12:04 PM

you need to specify a computer name or IP address you are trying to remote to. In your situation, its not going to list terminal servers. I don't think you're going to find much help with cracking that windows password. At least not here. I believe we're not permitted to discuss things like that here. But there are plenty of other places you can look

grs

02-26-07, 12:13 PM

It's been suggested to me I should setup a Domain rather than a Workgroup, I really know what it is or how a network like that is structured.

Albaholic

02-26-07, 02:37 PM

I think a domain would be overkill for something like this. How many computers are on your network? If you do decide to setup a domain. You would need an aditional computer with Win2k or 2k3 installed on it and then setup Active directory. Quite a bit more involved. Are you still having problems with Remote desktop or remote shutdown?

MRD

02-26-07, 02:50 PM

I do this all the time, basically I just ssh into my server and start the torrent downloading. I don't even have a monitor or keyboard on my fileserver.

grs

02-26-07, 02:55 PM

At the moment I have 3 PC and plan 4th within the next month or so. I didn't realise I needed a different version Windowsto setup up Domains, I was under the impression it could all be done with XP PRO.
The problem is with Remote Desktop and also the Shutdown.exe command. The cause of the problem (I think is the same for both) is somewhere with the Administrative Tools settings, something about network permissions but I don't know what exactly and niether does anyone else.

TalRW

02-26-07, 03:30 PM

I do this all the time, basically I just ssh into my server and start the torrent downloading. I don't even have a monitor or keyboard on my fileserver.

Sorry Threadjack:

MRD what torrent program do you use? I use VNC and azureus to do the same thing but to accomplish that I have to run a GUI interface since as far as I know azureus doesn't have a CLI. It would be really nice to instead of running the GUI and wasting resources I could just use a CLI torrent program but I don't know of any.

Gunlance

02-26-07, 03:34 PM

shutdown -i won't work with a workgroup. Must be on a domain as stated before. I had a domain controleld by AD and all that snazzy stuff. Just grab VNC and install it on yoru server. Makes stuff a bit easier.

I currently consolidated all of my servers into 1. I created a user account specifically for utorrent. It has all the permissions stripepd except for the one folder all my downloads get to. I leave that Account logged in 24/7.

The good thing about win2k3 is that you can have more than 1 concurrent remote desktop conenction going at once. This meant I could log into administrator and do anything I needed to do without bothering with the downloading account.

So get a server and vnc. Plus vnc works with linux as well.

grs

02-26-07, 03:42 PM

MRD

02-26-07, 03:50 PM

MRD what torrent program do you use? I use VNC and azureus to do the same thing but to accomplish that I have to run a GUI interface since as far as I know azureus doesn't have a CLI. It would be really nice to instead of running the GUI and wasting resources I could just use a CLI torrent program but I don't know of any.

Actually, I usually use azureus too. I just forward X. "ssh -YXC" and it will forward to the X server on the client if you've enabled X forwarding in your /etc/ssh/ssh/ssh_config.

TalRW

02-26-07, 03:55 PM

So is VNC a program that works on XP PRO and has the features and tools of Win2K3?
At the moment all the PC's are setup with only one admin account on each as there is only my brother and I using them. The guest account is disabled.
Do you have a link of were I might get a copy?

VNC is a program used to do remote desktop. It's useful for servers because you can install VNC server (which is exactly what you want to do) and then you can access it with a VNC client remotely from your desktop. I recommend ultraVNC (http://www.uvnc.com/index.html)but there are other ones out there just a google search away.

So to do this what you are going to have to do in steps
1. Setup a VNC server on the computer you want to act as a server
2. Install the VNC client on one of your desktops and use it to remotely connect to the server and then you can access your torrent box remotely from one machine.

grs

02-26-07, 05:37 PM

I've just loaded UVNC it's working great, so straight foward and simple. At the moment I am using it over a LAN setup, will it connect over the internet too?
Thanks for the help again everyone. I'm learning something new everyday!!

Gunlance

02-26-07, 05:41 PM

You can run vnc via http as well. Just have to forward the right port to the right computer. (you can do this with remote desktop as well but barely anyone knows that)

grs

02-26-07, 06:00 PM

I'm not sure if I'll ever need to, but how would I connect to UVNC on my server by http? Do I use IE/Firefox?

Gunlance

02-26-07, 06:03 PM

when you setup the vnc server you can specify a HTTP port. Type in any port number there(that isn't used by something else) and then forward that same port in your router to your server. MAKE SURE AND SET A PASSWORD IN VNC. Otherwise anyone can get on your computer.

Then you just open up your web browser of choice. Type in http://ipaddress:port number that you picked. A box should open up asking for password. Type it in and your connected.

grs

02-26-07, 06:13 PM

I don't know too much about ports and how there assigned I do know applications pass through them to connect to the internet.
Is there a any way of finding out which ports are not been used?

smokie mcpott

02-26-07, 06:15 PM

the defaults arent used by anything else on your pc
5800 and 5900

TalRW

02-26-07, 06:30 PM

Just so you know if you ever plan on using VNC over the internet outside your external network it is seriously recommended that you encrypt your connection otherwise your data can be intercepted. You can do this by running VNC over a SSH connection or by using the plugin below.

http://www.uvnc.com/features/encryption.html - Encryption plugin for Ultra VNC

grs

02-26-07, 06:36 PM

Gunlance

02-26-07, 06:42 PM

on your internal lan it would be http://192.168.0.1:5800 Or whatever the internal IP address of your server is. Outside your house it will be your public IP. Outside your lan will only work if you forward the correct port on your router to your server.

TalRW

02-26-07, 09:07 PM

You mean I go to "Admin Properties" on the server, under "Incoming Connections" select "Ports-Main 5800, Http 5900" Then in college or someone else's house, I open IE/Firefox and type the address
"http://(MYIP) : (PortNumber)" with no spaces
and then a password box should come up?
MYIP = the IP address I get from "IPCONFIG/ALL" on the server
PortNumber = 5900
I've just tryied it like that and Firefox just times out.

No you don't use IE or firefox, you have to use the ultraVNC viewer. There are two seperate programs the server and the viewer. You install the viewer on the computer you want to access remotely. Then you download the viewer on the computer you will be using and you run it and put in the IP address of the computer running the server to connect to it.