Need a new pump.

[kylebussen]

I most recently found out that my water pump went to the toilet. That is after I thought it was all Vistas fault and re installed xp. I just want a simple replacement but dont want to spend a crap ton of money. Does anyone know where i can find a 1/8" pump for a low price? Thanks

[darkcow]

yea, this is why we don't suggest w/c kits.

what i would do is buy a good pump (ddc+, mcp655, mcp355 etc..) with some reducers, then go from there and start to upgrade the rest of system to something better.

[Moto7451]

Or if you want to spend less than $50, pick up a Via Aqua 1800 (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=8164&Ntt=via%20aqua&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=0&Nty=1) and pick up a pump relay and some new barbs.

[kylebussen]

Well unless there is a heatsink that can out perform my water cooling than I dont mind replacing my pump. Just didnt know if there might be a company that sold a cheaper pump. Moto thank you for answering my question without sarcasm.

[ahbroody]

Dont worry about darkcow he seems to thread crap on any kit question. Likes to argue to. Also since when do you speak for the community darkcow. Who is this we cause it doesnt include me and some others here. I sure hope you arent implying that other pumps dont fail or that kit pumps fail more than regular pumps.

Kyle did you try contacting TT for a pump replacement I was really suprised when I contacted CM how cheap some parts were?

[voigts]

I honestly don't know where to tell you to go to try to find a 1/8" replacement pump for that unit. The Via Aqua Moto7451 suggested might be a good way to go. That is really the only decent pump for that kind of money that I know can think of.

Dont worry about darkcow he seems to thread crap on any kit question. Likes to argue to. Also since when do you speak for the community darkcow. Who is this we cause it doesnt include me and some others here. I sure hope you arent implying that other pumps dont fail or that kit pumps fail more than regular pumps.

Kyle did you try contacting TT for a pump replacement I was really suprised when I contacted CM how cheap some parts were?

I don't see that Darkcow was threadcrapping. It looks to me that he was trying to give the best advice. And I would say that it makes more sense to me to get a decent pump than to throw money at a sub-par pump. The Thermaltake Big Water is a piece of crap and a waste of money. It is not a kit with quality components. If you don't think that is the case, then you need to do some homework.

Most kits DO suck, the notable exceptions being the Swiftech kits and Petras kits. Their kits are very good and use quality parts. There may be a couple of others out there I'm missing, but Thermaltake isn't one of them.

Before I would recommend dumping money into a cheaply made kit, I would say it is a better use of the money to go with a Tuniq tower and a Thermalright HR-03. Both of them new will run you about $100, or less if used, and you will have good, solid, quiet, reliable, overclockable, high-end air. I have seen them for a lot less in the classifieds. High-end air is better than low-end water any day, and frankly with the advancements in the last couple of years in heatpipes, air cooling has really come a long way. Now a good water setup is going to own air, but you get what you pay for. If you invested some time and researched and buy parts slightly used, you can get a really good water setup for $150 or less with CPU and GPU watercooled. If you don't have the time to build yourself a good water setup, then go with a good air setup rather than dump money into a low end thermaltake Big Water that is probably going to give you more problems down the road. Don't be satisfied with a band-aid.

[kylebussen]

Well I was new to water cooling and oc'ing and felt it to be the quickest and easiest route to get me started. It lasted for over a year and a half with out a problem. Don't get me wrong, I would love to go ahead and upgrade to a 1/2" system but i dont really have the money right now. I was just looking for a quick fix so that I could enjoy my new X2. I will probably take the route that darkcow suggested, I just dont think that the attitude was necessary for such a simple question. I just didnt even think of using a reducer so that I could leave all of my current equipment in there til I could upgrade the rest. Once again, thanks for the advice.

[dz_jad]

Well I was new to water cooling and oc'ing and felt it to be the quickest and easiest route to get me started.
I don't have a watercooled rig yet, but my first one will probably be a kit. Guess what all of you "1337 water c00lars", some people are new. This is just like some Linux forums, "I'm new, I want to start slow", and a response is, "YOU N00B. WTF!? You don't know **** yet!?! GO AWAY."
Even though they suck, they're the best option.
[/rant]
Sorry, no suggestions on pumps there, buddy :shrug:

[kylebussen]

Well dont feel too bad about getting a kit cause like I said, mine worked without a problem for a good while. I even ran my system constantly over night and through out the day. Never had any problems with mold, i didnt even change the water that whole time.

[voigts]

I don't have a watercooled rig yet, but my first one will probably be a kit. Guess what all of you "1337 water c00lars", some people are new. This is just like some Linux forums, "I'm new, I want to start slow", and a response is, "YOU N00B. WTF!? You don't know **** yet!?! GO AWAY."
Even though they suck, they're the best option.
[/rant]
Sorry, no suggestions on pumps there, buddy :shrug:

You are completely missing the point. I see nothing in this thread that has anything to do with bashing anyone. The point is that I for one hate to see people put their money into stuff that isn't of good quality and can cause a lot of problems. I like many others bought a kit when I first started, but really didn't do my homework. I ended up replacing the entire thing one component at a time, replacing those components because they didn't do what I wanted them to do, and in the entire process spent probably 3 times as much. Had I done my homework, I could have saved a lot of time and money.

All kits don't suck. It just doesn't make sense to buy kits that do. If you want a good kit, get one from Petra or Swiftech. Otherwise, it is good to take some time and read and learn and put together what you want so that it does what you want. And you can save quite a bit of money if you do so. I bought my last CPU block and the new Fuzion that I am using now out of the classifieds. I got a barely used Fuzion for 1/3 less than new, and it looks brand new.

[Maviryk]

Well, what temps do you get with that kit?

I'd be willing to bet a $60 aircooler will outperform it...

Forget the pump, go buy the new Thermalright cooler. :-)

But if you really want a pump, via aqua 1300 for $15 + shipping (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=8164&Ntt=via%20aqua&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=0&Nty=1), get some reducers.

[kylebussen]

Well idle it runs at 26c and loaded at about 46c. I never claimed that anybody was bashing anyone. I just think that the wording was a little rude. Maybe he meant nothing by it but I am pretty sure I didnt ask his opinion on wether water cooling was the way to go. All I needed to see was if someone knew of a quick fix for me and everyon has done well to help me. Voigts your response made it sound like I had just bought my water cooling kit without doing any research to see if it was worth it. I was just letting you know that I was young in the oc'ing business when I first bought it. Thank you again for the information and I will certainly take the steps to upgrade rather then try a quick fix.

I guess my biggest thing I was wondering if by reading some of the advice that was given that I might be able to go around locally and find a replacement rather than buying from the internet.

Ill use patience and just get a good upgrade.

[Kasso]

sorry to go off topic but where is the classifieds section? do you need certain post count before it appears on the main page?

to OP, i started with a thermaltake kit. its a good kit, just the pump is extremely weak. im going to upgrade to a swiftech mcp 350. hopefully i will get one with a petras head. the only thing im going to be re-using from the kit is the radiator for now. Get a good pump like the swiftech ones and reducers for now, then slowly upgrade.

[kylebussen]

Its funny that you brought that classifieds question up. I just asked that like 10 min ago. Yes you have to have 100 posts and a real Email address on your profile like from your ISP.

[darkcow]

I don't see that Darkcow was threadcrapping. It looks to me that he was trying to give the best advice. And I would say that it makes more sense to me to get a decent pump than to throw money at a sub-par pump. The Thermaltake Big Water is a piece of crap and a waste of money. It is not a kit with quality components. If you don't think that is the case, then you need to do some homework.

Most kits DO suck, the notable exceptions being the Swiftech kits and Petras kits. Their kits are very good and use quality parts. There may be a couple of others out there I'm missing, but Thermaltake isn't one of them.

Before I would recommend dumping money into a cheaply made kit, I would say it is a better use of the money to go with a Tuniq tower and a Thermalright HR-03. Both of them new will run you about $100, or less if used, and you will have good, solid, quiet, reliable, overclockable, high-end air. I have seen them for a lot less in the classifieds. High-end air is better than low-end water any day, and frankly with the advancements in the last couple of years in heatpipes, air cooling has really come a long way. Now a good water setup is going to own air, but you get what you pay for. If you invested some time and researched and buy parts slightly used, you can get a really good water setup for $150 or less with CPU and GPU watercooled. If you don't have the time to build yourself a good water setup, then go with a good air setup rather than dump money into a low end thermaltake Big Water that is probably going to give you more problems down the road. Don't be satisfied with a band-aid.


i totally agree.


a complete overhaul won't hurt you what so ever. in fact it will only help, but i say upgrading a mediocre w/c system isn't the best idea because it will only be as good as your worst part. but if you lack the funds, going step by step isn't a bad idea, i lack the funds defiantly, thats why i didn't go with a kit.


and water cooling kits are only good for the kind of guy who doesn't feel like doing his research and wants to jump into the water cooling world. its your gateway into the w/c world, and its a good gateway.. BUT its not your only option by far, if you would've done your research you could've saved yourself 120 odd bucks by not buying the w/c kit which is what i did, heck i went straight into buying used w/c parts. but im not bashing you because you bought the kit, im just laying it down that thermal take isn't that great of a company and can easily be outdone, as i can see your starting to realize that and thats great.




but buying that via aqua is a great idea, I've heard plenty of good things from it. but if you don't know much about electronics you might have to do a bit of research to make it turn on with your computer.