Gotta love those socket probes.... come on in guys

[Neco]

NOT....


hmm.. anyways I am running a Shuttle AK31 rev 3.1 motherboard now - it replaced my Epox 8KTA+.

on my Epox, @ 700 mhz I seemed to top out at 35C no matter what...

@ 733 mhz on the shuttle 35C was my idle and 39 C was load I think...


funny thing is, ok I figured maybe I don't have my waterblock on tight enough, or too much paste, or not enough water...

Well, I put a good dab on the CPU die, and put the block down, clamed that bitch real hard too..I can't phsycially turn it myself (I'm sure a stronger person could)... I do see to have sufficient water in my system, but I will get "air trapped" if I unplug it.


Welll... I ran Toast, Prime95 and played Winamp at the same time.

My temp didn't go past 45C @ 166FSB 1.7volts.. 913 Mhz

Aside form the fact I think its odd my DDR Ram is still running @ 266 DDR, It seems to me everything is on a-ok..

I let it sit for a good 10 or 15 minutes, then I shut everything off...
mind you the whole time I repeatedly felt the water block - not a hint of warmth.

Withing the first 30 - 45 second it dropped 2 degress C, and then another degree, and another over the course of about 4 minutes, and then I came to the board to post and I'm now at 40 C..

Wow that was a quick drop, so I assume my stuff is hooked up real nicely right ??

Anyways... how do you guys rate your temps taken from socket probes ? I hear most people subtract 10 deg C from it alot of times, is that really accurate ? I don't have the money at the moment, but I wanna get some kinda prove I can stick between my CPU and the Waterblock or something one of these days, it would be real nice..

I think I go live off a Duron for quite a while if I can push her past 1 ghz..

-Neco.

[Maximus Nickus]

Actuallt normally socket probes give out LOWER temps so people add a deggre or to, but at most its only 4C.

Is your radiator and pump up to it? How areu coolin the radiator, that hot for watercoolin.

[Neco]

Are you sure ? I alway shear people talk about how they're temps are high and they get a real probe and they are actually lower ??


Hmm..

Well my radiator and pump should be fine.. perhaps I need more water..

I'm using one fant on the radiator @7 volts - I don't notice and real difference when running it @ 12 volts, and I like the peace and quiet.

[Maximus Nickus]

How hots ur room?

Is ur waterblock copper? Did u make ur watercoolin or buy it, and if so from where?

What GPH is ur pump?

Oh and the reason why u have to add a few dgrees is the thermistor doesn't touch the core, it just measuring the air..

[Neco]

My room is not hot at all, it's usually pretty cold here in Maryland in the winter, and I leave my window open alot, or at least cracked.


I think my pump is like 120 or 150gph or something.

I got my kit from www.2coolcomputer.com

I think that's the correct website, it's been so long, heh..

my waterblock is copper as well..


I just can't see a connection or other parts being the problem, because my temps drop so fast after I take load off the CPU - I think faster than before I switched out motherboards and had to reseat the block.

-Neco.

[CrystalMethod]

Did you bleed the system properly? If there even the least bit of air trapped in the block, that'll contribute to high temps.

[Neco]

I use a submersible pump, so I don't need to actually "bleed" the system, but whenever I change the water or open the tank up to add some or something, I make sure that I "titlt" the radiator and block to the best of my ability (I have an odd mounting scheme that makes it hard, and not alot of hose length, the hose is also "firm" doens't bend easy)..

I think I will definately add some more water, thought as long as the pump is totally submersed it wouldn't matter that much... but you never know until you try..

-Neco.

[Maximus Nickus]

It could be your Epox giving bad temps.
Download a Bios update and see if that helps, also try using a thermal probe thingy that gives a accurate LCD readout.

Is your Waterblock Lapped? U using AS2? How is it being mounted? (Clips or bolts)

What sort of radiator do you have? How much airflow through it?

Try using diff fan combinations on the radiator (big room fan) as an experiment to see if it does something, if it does then cool your radiator better!

Also did u clean off the old Thermal Grease with Isopropyl Alcohol when you re-applied it?

[Neco]

I don't feel like getting my Epox out of the box again (I am selling it in a few days hopefully), but I would accept possibly bad temps..


I know I have been overclocking lately, the highest temp I seemed to get was 49 C @ 900 mhz..give or take a few higher.

I topped of my res the best I could as well. This shuttle board is nice but tricky enough, I still am not 100% sure what voltage I'm running at...I think 1.7v ...lol..


My Radiator is 12 x 5, in inches.

It has one radio shack fan, pretty big running @ 7volts sucking air through it - mounted to a cardboard shroud I made, to fit the shape of the radiator (no "aerodynamics, just "rectangle" )

Th fan is lous eough @ 12 volts and doesn't seem to do much, I can't find out the CFM for this thing either... I hope to mount a 120mm @ 100 CFM + fan to it sooner or later.

My Wateblock is mounted by two bolts and two clips, secured with wing-nutts. (a bar lays across the center of the block, two bolts on each side with feet to grip the socket like a HS/F)

I cleaned it with rubbing alcohol before mounting, and also the CPU (as I always do)

I doubt a house fan would help me too much..... :)


My waterblock is not lapped - but it was damn smooth and reflective... I really don't have the will/brains/or gutts, to tak emy whole system apart and yank it out to lap it at this point.

I have simple "silver" thermal paste.. I dunno if its any better than the white crap but thats what I ordered with my block..

I'm considering the New Arctic Alumina, since it is not conductive.


hope that can help you think of something.. heh.. hell I know 45 - 50 C is hot to some folks, but I personally know, that it isn't by any means going to kill my CPU, and am just happy my system is as quiet as it is now :)


-Neco.

[Maximus Nickus]

Its gotta be your board. Download a bios update and see what happens.

Also look @ the LED it SHOULD say FF when your in Windows if it don't then look it up you've got a prob...( When you first power on it will cycle through loads).

Let me know, i'll sleep on it.

[Warlord2]

I think you are right that your cpu is running hotter thin it says it is.

if you point a house fan at the cpu you should notice a up to 10c decrease in temps

your block you say isnt warm......can you see a imprint of the cpu codes on the back of the waterblock if you take it off? if so your making good contract

I think a nother radiator fan would help a lot. the radio shack ones I think are only rated at 65cfm or something. as you overclock at higher speeds you need to disapate more heat and you need more fans to do that

[mEKbOY]

I ouwld never trust a socket probe. There either to nice to you or to mean to you. Do yourself a favor and get accurate temps and geta temp probe.

[Neco]

FF codes ?? lol... 8KTA+ doesn't have LCD..

thats 8KTA3 and higher I beleive...


I've never bothered to look for an imprint of my CPu stuff.. however there are slearly marks where the CPU die has made contact with (rought outline of a square)... perhaps it does need to be lapped...ya never know I guess.. but... that's not my kinda work... :(

I'm not sure if I can get the thing any tighter, and I'm afraid I'll crack the core...heh..


-Neco.

[Warlord2]

have you tryed putting a house fans up to the cpu? that would give you a more accurate reading.

and you really do need to get more fans for the radiator if you plan on overclocking at higher speeds

[Maximus Nickus]

I thought he had a 8KHA+