Windows SMP client is now open beta.

[Macaholic]

Hot off the press! Announcement here (http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=18531&highlight=). Usual beta material disclaimers apply. Have at it! :thup:

[LandShark]

which version of client is that Mac? is it the "latest one (installer included)" or it actually is a "new one"?

just wanna see if need update.

good to see it went open beta!! now I could retired VMware+Linux and just run WindowsSMP on my windows rig then (including my GF's Yonah lappy)!!



p.s. for those running native LinuxSMP, the WindowsSMP client IS SLOWER than a native LinuxSMP client!!

[Macaholic]

which version of client is that Mac? is it the "latest one (installer included)" or it actually is a "new one"?

Installer included. If you have been running the latest, no need to update.

[pscout]

i think the PPD on the win smp client is pretty similar to the vmaware+ linux, and as gary says slower than the native linux.

Also, check your OC stability ... i had a few of mine need v bump/fsb reduction when i started running the win smp client ... it will run your rig at 100% whereas the linux client will not. My affected rigs were just a bit too close to the edge on the oc i guess.

[dmatko]

im getting "work unit has invalid address" keeps tryin to connect, just cant seem to do it.

[dfonda]

Checking it out now.:beer:

Which Windows can run this? 64bit only?

[marty9876]

Checking it out now.:beer:

Which Windows can run this? 64bit only?

runs on regular XP (32 bit stuff)

[stratcatprowlin]

Awsome! Just started the client on my 4200 X2.

[nikhsub1]

I just keep getting errors it wont run at all on my machine. I am running vista 64 bit maybe that is the issue?

[LandShark]

im getting "work unit has invalid address" keeps tryin to connect, just cant seem to do it.
try again, the server was down for a short while. it should be fine now.

[marty9876]

Never hurts to close/restart the client too for the 0.0.0.0 stuff. Server went down and the worst time possible... :D

[infinitevalence]

just wondering as i have not been folding for several mths now, should i run the SMP version or 4 single versions on my old 3.0 dual xeon?

[Jon]

VPNed into work and set up my system there to run this. My X2 3800+ (not overclocked) had some trouble with it, but an uninstall/reinstall appears to have subsided the errors for now.

I guess we'll see what happens by morning...

[dfonda]

runs on regular XP (32 bit stuff)
Thanks

Time to -oneunit the VM smp client.:)

Sure hope Stanfords servers are ready for all this traffic.

[dmatko]

SUCCESS!!! :beer:

[JDXNC]

Got it going on my X2 no probs, I've been off the SMP for a couple weeks, vmware was giving my system problems, so I'm really glad to see the windows client :D

[dz_jad]

Heads up too, it appears there are only 2k WUs on the server...that's assuming that Stanford only has the one server I was assigned to up and running.

[inkfx]

Downloaded. Installed. Got WU 2610 1/9/0.

[Mark620]

just wondering as i have not been folding for several mths now, should i run the SMP version or 4 single versions on my old 3.0 dual xeon?

The SMP will get you more points!

[inkfx]

Frames are a bit longer but I'm glad the points will go up. :) (20 minute frams)

[Audioaficionado]

When is the Linux client going 32bit?

This gives me more incentive to revive my old Xeon duallie for some 32bit windows or Linux SMP_FAH love.

[THEnumber337]

Have they made an announcement or an allusion to them making a 32bit Linux SMP client?

[dfonda]

So folks how are the frame times on say... a e6600 or e6400(OCed) and what are the points?

[Sorin]

... what are the points?


Currently we have dedicated win SMP work units. Three projects are being assigned at this time:
Project 2610: 1523 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2651: 1760 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2652: 1148 points, deadline 3 days

Particularly as this is a beta client, we reserve the possibility to adjust point values and/or deadlines in the future.

So folks how are the frame times on say... a e6600 or e6400 ... ?

Dunno. Will find out tomorrow when I fire it up on my own box after VMware finishes its current unit (did -oneunit). But on my parents stock X2 4400+ (2.2GHz), it gets 21 minutes per frame on project 2652. So on my box (#1 in sig), I'd guess a bit less than half that.

[dfonda]

Thanks Sorin. I may stay with VMware until I can tell if Win smp is faster....Also I'll meet you at the top of our page.:)

[zim01]

windows is slower

[jerseytomato]

I just started a project 2610 1/5/0 on a T5600 Vista. So far it is doing 31min/frame. Does that look right? If so it is going to be about 700ppd. :shrug:

[leelegend]

dont forget guys, the SMP core is really ment for Quad core/processors, so you are going to see the same sort of figures as running linux/vmware on a dual processor.

i am currently doing 25 minutes a frame on a 2651, with my X2 4400.

lee

[dz_jad]

:shrug: With the rig in my sig, I forget the times, but it turned out around 500ppd. So, right now, I'm gonna finish the unit, and go back to 1 uniproc and my 800-900 ppd GPU client.
I bumped it to 700 PPD with the GPU and WinSMP running together, they dont starve eachother, but there is a lot of fighting for the core.

[silent bob]

yeah I am geting 28ish per frame , so I am with you dz I will be going back to cpu and gpu on this FX-60

but I did look at teh dual AMD Quad core and I could get a setup running for @ 1000 bux-ish

[LandShark]

Thanks Sorin. I may stay with VMware until I can tell if Win smp is faster....Also I'll meet you at the top of our page.:)
the WinSMP client is roughly about the same speed/ppd as running VMware/LinuxSMP.

[Silver]

Loaded it up a few minutes ago on the 1.6 xeons. 2610 downloaded. Now waiting for some frame times.

[psyshack]

Frames are a bit longer but I'm glad the points will go up. :) (20 minute frams)

If inkfx is getting 20 mins. a frame on his sig. machine. Im staying vmware/winderz. My native nix box is @ 3.36, SMP is doing frames at the 10:30 mark and the E6600 @ 3.40 is doing them at 11:00 mark or so. Or am I missing something here?

psy

[ihrsetrdr]

When is the Linux client going 32bit?

This gives me more incentive to revive my old Xeon duallie for some 32bit windows or Linux SMP_FAH love.

According to dz_jad's reply here (http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic18540.html) on FC.org., there's no 64 bit hardware requirement.

That'll give my old Xeon duallie a new lease on life as well. ;) I'm hoping for some 32 bit Linux SMP_FAH love also. :D

[Audioaficionado]

According to dz_jad's reply here (http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic18540.html) on FC.org., there's no 64 bit hardware requirement.

That'll give my old Xeon duallie a new lease on life as well. ;) I'm hoping for some 32 bit Linux SMP_FAH love also. :DHmmm...

I wonder how well those 32bit nix SMPs would fold under BSD?

[Silver]

Will post my frame times as soon as I have them. Two 1.6 LV xeons at 3.0 Ghz.

Edit - 1 hour 15.5 mins on first frame. At this rate and assuming points at 1760 on the unit, looking at 337 PPD on the xeons (32 bit). Will let it run to see if this improves but a better solution may well be putting a gpu folder on the xeons with one cpu folder. Should get about 800 PPD on that setup or close to 4200 Points in the same time frame as a completed SMP.

[pscout]

Will post my frame times as soon as I have them. Two 1.6 LV xeons at 3.0 Ghz.

Edit - 1 hour 15.5 mins on first frame. At this rate and assuming points at 1760 on the unit, looking at 337 PPD on the xeons (32 bit). Will let it run to see if this improves but a better solution may well be putting a gpu folder on the xeons with one cpu folder. Should get about 800 PPD on that setup or close to 4200 Points in the same time frame as a completed SMP.

If those framerates hold, it won't make the deadline.

[dwschoon]

27:40/frame on 2610. 805@4.0

[ihrsetrdr]

Hmmm...

I wonder how well those 32bit nix SMPs would fold under BSD?

I have a feeling that the time is drawing near; it just makes sense, alot of sense to enable BSD-SMP 32 bit folding.







Win-SMP frame times:

P2610
@frame 11/12- TPF 43:08

XP-Home SP/2
AMD x2 3800+ @ 2.0ghz
1024mb ddr 400

[satandole666]

Will I see a noticeable boost between running this beta client and two seperate consoles? I never went through the effort of using VMware+linux but I'm more than willing to do this.

[dmatko]

my 2x265 stock clock opties are getting 20min a frame so far. the first time i started it up the unit eue on me, but i was running vmware at the same time. restarted it a few min ago and will see how it goes. wrk unt#2651

[Goshawk]

Got a 955XE working this right now, work unit 2610 just completed 1st frame - 25 mins... seems pretty decent for a Pentium D :P

~ Gos

[sno.lcn]

This is the best new I've gotten all week, can't wait to put it on the prestonia rigs :thup:

Rig in my sig is putting 1267ppd on p2651 at around 20min/frame :)

*Edit: OOOHHHH I just realized something. Office rigs FTW!!! :attn:

[benbaked]

I'm trying to run this on my 930 in Win2k, and all I keep getting is:

CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
Deleting current work unit & continuing...


EDIT: nevermind, I'm reading through the instructions now.

[leelegend]

remove/reinstall the SMPD and MIEXEC services and check your passwords

lee

[Sorin]

For me the Windows SMP is the same speed as VMware Linux SMP. 11 minutes per frame either way at 3.4GHz. Subtract 1 minute per frame if at 3.6GHz. Oh, and this is on project 2610.

Not having to use Linux and VMware is 5000000000% worth it. Though one thing that bugs me is the points for the projects, but it's ultimately no biggie.

[THEnumber337]

For me the Windows SMP is the same speed as VMware Linux SMP. 11 minutes per frame either way at 3.4GHz. Subtract 1 minute per frame if at 3.6GHz. Oh, and this is on project 2610.

Not having to use Linux and VMware is 5000000000% worth it. Though one thing that bugs me is the points for the projects, but it's ultimately no biggie.

What bugs you about the points?

I looked on Stanford's project summary page but I didn't see any of the proteins that you all are getting on the list. Is there a list somewhere?

[jerseytomato]

My Win SMP looks like it's running a little slower than Win/VMware/SMP :shrug:

project 2651 13.85 min/frame vs project 2605 12.85 min/frame

[drshivas]

LOL! I just did the Vmware-Linux-SMP thing for the first time Friday night! Oh well- so much the better.

Here's my CD2 @ 3.5Ghz, Win2k3, w/ a 2610- about 8 mins SLOWER a frame than in Ubuntu64 VM w/ a 2605. 20 mins vs 12 mins. They ARE different WUs so I wonder how much these 2610s really equate to the 2605s.

[20:13:56] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[20:13:56] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[20:13:56]
[20:13:56] Preparing to commence simulation
[20:13:56] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[20:14:00] - Starting from initial work packet
[20:14:00]
[20:14:00] Project: 2610 (Run 1, Clone 107, Gen 0)
[20:14:00]
[20:14:00] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[20:14:00] Entering M.D.
[20:14:19] 8 percent)
[20:14:19] - Starting from initial work packet
[20:14:19]
[20:14:19] Project: 2610 (Run 1, Clone 107, Gen 0)
[20:14:19]
[20:14:23] Entering M.D.
[20:14:29] Rejecting checkpoint
[20:14:30] Protein: Protein
[20:14:30] Writing local files
[20:14:31] Extra SSE boost OK.
[20:14:32] Writing local files
[20:14:32] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0 percent)
[20:35:12] Writing local files
[20:35:12] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps (1 percent)
[20:54:45] Writing local files
[20:54:46] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps (2 percent)

[Audioaficionado]

For me the Windows SMP is the same speed as VMware Linux SMP. 11 minutes per frame either way at 3.4GHz. Subtract 1 minute per frame if at 3.6GHz. Oh, and this is on project 2610.

Not having to use Linux and VMware is 5000000000% worth it. Though one thing that bugs me is the points for the projects, but it's ultimately no biggie.As long as the Windows SMP client has equal PPD and is equally useful to the science, I might consider running it as a service.

Otherwise I'm sticking to the VM/64bit Linux SMP client. It's more geeky too :D

I don't mind the VM thing as it's the best of both worlds on a non dual boot machine.

[Sorin]

What bugs you about the points?

I looked on Stanford's project summary page but I didn't see any of the proteins that you all are getting on the list. Is there a list somewhere?

There's only 3 WinSMP WUs right now, and I posted a quote from the F@H forums on the previous page (previous page for me anyways, I'm set to 30 posts per page) with project numbers and points.

At first glance it seems to me that similar-resource projects are worth less in Windows than in Linux. But in the end, it's worth it to not run VMware and Linux, since times per frame are the same either way for me.

Now if they could just get service installs working, after which Wedo the Magnificent could do a one-click, then everything would be perfect! :D

[THEnumber337]

Thanks Sorin, right after I clicked on the thread on the Stanford folding forums that contained the information I saw your post

[davekusa]

I got the error -1 . I had to create a user password for my computer.

631@4.5 2610/30 minutes a frame

[drshivas]

My Opty 170 @ 2.8 is getting 27min per frame on a 2610. This about 7 mins slower than my VM-Ubuntu-SMP w/ a 2605. It looks like the hit on the WinSMP client over a VM-Linux-SMP setup is about the same on a C2D and an Opty.

[22:41:24] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[22:41:24] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[22:41:24]
[22:41:24] Preparing to commence simulation
[22:41:24] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[22:41:29] - Starting from initial work packet
[22:41:29]
[22:41:29] Project: 2610 (Run 0, Clone 126, Gen 0)
[22:41:29]
[22:41:29] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[22:41:29] Entering M.D.
[22:41:50] 7 percent)
[22:41:50] - Starting from initial work packet
[22:41:50]
[22:41:50] Project: 2610 (Run 0, Clone 126, Gen 0)
[22:41:50]
[22:41:56] Entering M.D.
[22:42:02] Rejecting checkpoint
[22:42:03] Protein: Protein
[22:42:03] Writing local files
[22:42:04] Extra SSE boost OK.
[22:42:06] Writing local files
[22:42:06] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0 percent)
[23:08:34] Writing local files
[23:08:35] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps (1 percent)
[23:35:03] Writing local files
[23:35:03] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps (2 percent)

[inkfx]

I replaced my 80GB IDE drive with a 36GB Raptor last night. After the format I installed F@H SMP for Windows and got a new work unit. This time 2652. Frame times are much better now, ~11 minutes.

[dfonda]

I feel obligated to stay behind and continue doing the 2604 and 05's.:( Its dirty work but someone has to do it .:D

This too:
It's more geeky too :D

[davekusa]

I'm better off running GPU and CPU on the 631. Yields over 1000 PPD. XP/SMP yields 700 PPD. Moved the XP/SMP to a slower machine and see if it can complete a frame in under 57 minutes (57minutes x 100 frames = 4 days)

[172sp_driver]

For some reason I can't even open the install .exe file, I get an error saying that "the data sector of the self-extracting file has been damaged". Has anyone else gotten this?

[Pomegranate]

This thing is pretty lame compared to the Linux client. Maybe it will get better with later versions. What's really amazing is that it took Stanford this long to release it. It's like they just woke up and realized there was this wacky little operating system called Microsoft Windows, and a lot of people were using it, and maybe they should write an optimized client for it. It's baffling to me that Stanford did everything else first -- GPU, Linux, even QMD, which was a stupid waste of time, and they saved Microsoft Freaking Windows for last. Talk about doing things ass backwards.

[davekusa]

It is what it is. Another option for folders.

[drshivas]

It is what it is. Another option for folders.

Exactly. Although the Linux SMP client yields better PPD ATM, I do have an X2 running 2 instances of the regular client that isn't a VM-Linux candidate. Now I have the option to run that as an SMP rig. :clap:

[pscout]

For some reason I can't even open the install .exe file, I get an error saying that "the data sector of the self-extracting file has been damaged". Has anyone else gotten this?

Try downloading it again.

[Audioaficionado]

GPU, Linux, even QMD, which was a stupid waste of time, and they saved Microsoft Freaking Windows for last. Talk about doing things ass backwards.Not really. Windows wasn't as clean to code for as Linux so there was better performance possible with Linux and it could be released earlier. The bottom line is the Scientific advancements of the project, not the convenience factor.

As for the 64bit requirement, I think ChasR hit that nail square on when he said that was most likely to allow only that the latest hardware could be used. This would tend to ensure that the early results would be returned faster and more reliably. Since the 64bit Linux OS still has to have the 32bit-lib in order for SMP_FAH to work, most likely it will also work in 32bit Linux if coded to.

[Pomegranate]

Not really. Windows wasn't as clean to code for as Linux so there was better performance possible with Linux and it could be released earlier. The bottom line is the Scientific advancements of the project, not the convenience factor.

As for the 64bit requirement, I think ChasR hit that nail square on when he said that was most likely to allow only that the latest hardware could be used. This would tend to ensure that the early results would be returned faster and more reliably. Since the 64bit Linux OS still has to have the 32bit-lib in order for SMP_FAH to work, most likely it will also work in 32bit Linux if coded to.

Windows is by far the dominant OS on folding computers, and that should have been the overriding factor when assigning priorities for Stanford's programming staff. Linux should have been priority #2, and there's no way in hell the GPU client should have been put in front of Windows. QMD should never have happened at all. Even the receptionist at Pande's office had to know QMD was a dead end and a waste of time. I suspect Stanford's programming staff primarily likes to work on what's fun for them and not what's most important.

[ihrsetrdr]

Several months ago, there were only rumors of Win-SMP folding but no indication that such would come to pass. I was frankly surprised by the rapid deployment of the Win-SMP client; apparently work on Linux-SMP helped speed up development and release of Win-SMP.

We'll likely never see the likes of QMD's again, but I don't think Stanford is 'done' with the GPU project, by any means.

[Shelnutt2]

Why did they release a Windows SMP client? Why? This has greatly detracted from the attention Linux was getting. My only hope is that the Lniux client offers a great PPD incentive...

[Spion]

I'm giving it a try to see how it runs. I couldn't get it to run as a service so i'm disappointed about that :( i may just keep on going VM/Ubuntu so i don't have to see the console window in my task bar :)

[Shelnutt2]

Windows is by far the dominant OS on folding computers, and that should have been the overriding factor when assigning priorities for Stanford's programming staff. Linux should have been priority #2, and there's no way in hell the GPU client should have been put in front of Windows. QMD should never have happened at all. Even the receptionist at Pande's office had to know QMD was a dead end and a waste of time. I suspect Stanford's programming staff primarily likes to work on what's fun for them and not what's most important.

Please elaborate why the QMD was a dead end.


As for the rest of your saying, I refrain from responding as if I did I would get a 3 day vacation.

[WarriorII]

I believe this is a nice alternative to Linux Folding for those who run x2 - x4 rigs.

Makes it a bit easier IMHO for the joe 6er to jump on board. (Linux n00b/me)

Although, once folding VM/SMP the time/frame rates are a tad slower.
Must be a Winderz thing though. Compared to a native linux install. (my .02)

For now, I'll let you guys Pioneer the way.
I like the "quickness" of native Linux/Folding per WU.

:attn:

[dmatko]

i was having problems with the windows smp and decided to X it. it was running on my tyan k8we::2x265::4g ram and it kept getting errors. the closest i came to actually completing a unit was 15%. got an "Quit 101 - NaN detected: (ener[20])" error which pretty much made me end the attempt at using it for now. before i shut it down though i got a whole bunch of "stray file errors" as the client was trying to d/l and run some 2652 units. i stopped it and havent enabled it since so that i dont damage the possible units any further.

[benbaked]

I got it running on my 930 finally, 28min/frame, alot better then the 90min/frame or so I was getting with the vmware/smp method. I needed a password, all is good now. The X2 is doing quite well on the linux method so I'll leave well enough alone.

[dwschoon]

Yesterday I vpn'd into my work box from home and installed the win smp service. It ran great until I got into work this morning and rebooted. Something is using about 75% of the cpu cycles, but the fah logfile appears to be stuck. It hasnt moved past this point in about 45min. I tried stopping and restarting the services, but got the same results.

# SMP Client ################################################## ################
################################################## #############################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

################################################## #############################
################################################## #############################

Launch directory: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Service: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe
Arguments: -svcstart

Launched as a service.
Entered C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01 to do work.

[13:59:40] - Ask before connecting: No
[13:59:40] - User name: dwschoon (Team 32)
[13:59:40] - User ID: 612062427D07193A
[13:59:40] - Machine ID: 1
[13:59:40]
[13:59:40] Loaded queue successfully.
[13:59:40]
[13:59:40] + Processing work unit
[13:59:40] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[13:59:40] Core found.
[13:59:40] Working on Unit 01 [March 19 13:59:40]
[13:59:40] + Working ...

[leelegend]

Launched as a service.

doesnt yet work properly as a service, unless you have changed the account settings....

you should add the -forceasm flag as well

lee

[dwschoon]

I figured it out. I didnt realize that i need to restart the client when I reboot. Thanks.
Launched as a service.

doesnt yet work properly as a service, unless you have changed the account settings....

you should add the -forceasm flag as well

lee

[freeagent]

this has been my troubles, itll just sit here and do this, is there something im doing wrong? because this is kind of dissapointing :(



Launch directory: D:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: D:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[15:36:27] - Ask before connecting: No
[15:36:27] - Use IE connection settings: Yes
[15:36:27] - User name: freeagent (Team 32)
[15:36:27] - User ID: 36A616F13A046E44
[15:36:27] - Machine ID: 1
[15:36:27]
[15:36:27] Loaded queue successfully.
[15:36:27]
[15:36:27] + Processing work unit
[15:36:27] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[15:36:27] Core found.
[15:36:27] Working on Unit 01 [March 19 15:36:27]
[15:36:27] + Working ...
[15:36:36] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[15:36:36] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[15:36:36] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[15:36:44] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[15:36:44] + Attempting to get work packet
[15:36:44] - Connecting to assignment server
[15:36:44] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[15:36:44] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[15:36:44] Loaded queue successfully.
[15:36:57] + Closed connections
[15:37:02]
[15:37:02] + Processing work unit
[15:37:02] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[15:37:02] Core found.
[15:37:02] Working on Unit 02 [March 19 15:37:02]
[15:37:02] + Working ...
[15:37:11] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[15:37:11] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[15:37:11] Deleting current work unit & continuing...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

[jws2346]

It seems every where I've read the Win SMP client is slower than the native SMP client :eh?: . I don't know anything about the VWWare thing, because I've never tried it. I've always just run native SMP and I understand how someone would need Win on their production or borged machines. :shrug: Knowing the size and processes of WU's are different I've still been completely satisfied with the Win SMP client. Case in point: AMD X2 4200+ OC'ed to 2.40 GHz, p2652 has a tpf of less than 20 mins, native Linux (Ubuntu 6.10) more than 23 mins tpf for a p2605. Even with the point difference p2652, I believe, = 1148 pts and p2605 = 1760 pts of about 612 pts I still like having the advantage of using one of my four WinXP CD's (not to mention being able to use AIM with my sister in Conn.) Maybe if I'm lucky I'll get a p2651 as I've read has a point count of 1760 pts or a p2610 which I've read has a point count of 1523 pts

Anyhoo, that's my $0.02 cents worth :D

Edit: Oh yeah, thank you, thank you and more thank you Stanford for the Windows SMP client.
Thanks for making it so easy to install and use :clap:

Which ever Linux SMP client finishes first on one of my three C2D's (E6600, E6400, E6300) I'll see what, if any difference, the Win SMP client has on them. :confused:

[THEnumber337]

It seems every where I've read the Win SMP client is slower than the native SMP client :eh?: . I don't know anything about the VWWare thing, because I've never tried it. I've always just run native SMP and I understand how someone would need Win on their production or borged machines. :shrug: Knowing the size and processes of WU's are different I've still been completely satisfied with the Win SMP client. Case in point: AMD X2 4200+ OC'ed to 2.40 GHz, p2652 has a tpf of less than 20 mins, native Linux (Ubuntu 6.10) more than 23 mins tpf for a p2605. Even with the point difference p2652, I believe, = 1148 pts and p2605 = 1760 pts of about 612 pts I still like having the advantage of using one of my four WinXP CD's (not to mention being able to use AIM with my sister in Conn.) Maybe if I'm lucky I'll get a p2651 as I've read has a point count of 1760 pts or a p2610 which I've read has a point count of 1523 pts

Anyhoo, that's my $0.02 cents worth :D

Edit: Oh yeah, thank you, thank you and more thank you Stanford for the Windows SMP clent.
Thanks for making it so easy to install and use :clap:

You can always use a Linux AIM client such as Gaim or Kopete.

[jws2346]

You can always use a Linux AIM client such as Gaim or Kopete.

Yeah THEnumber337, I was aware of the Gaim or Kopete programs. I just like the convenience of Windows

[inkfx]

I turned in my first WU under SMP last night around 1am. Now I'm halfway through the second WU. The stat page still isn't updated so I'm not sure how many points I got for that first one. Hopefully that happens sometime soon.

[leelegend]

Freeagent: remove/unistall both the SMPD and MPIEXEC services....(if you type those commands into a dos prompt, it will give you the syntax) and then reinstall them, making sure you give the right password.

lee

[leelegend]

arguement over Linux vs. Windows will rage on forever....

i have left vmware/linux on my production server as i only want to use 2 cores of the 4 available and it has 4gb of ram for i can afford to run it.

on my main work machine i have changed over to windows.....my reason:
yes the linux core may be faster but you have also got to take into account the memory overhead that vmware takes up, and i have decided that i can get better use from my machine by ditching the vmware services.

neither way is wrong, everyone should just be happy that we have so many options!!!

lee

[jivetrky]

Welp, I've been running it since last night. I'm getting 17min/frame. Not sure if that is good or bad for 2610.

Anyone know what kind of points you get for 2610? It's not in the database I normally look at.


EDIT: also, I like the windows client for the fact that it actually accepts the fact that it's a low priority process. So when I'm doing something CPU intensive, it backs off and lets me use my PC :) With VMWare i had to turn it off when I wanted to do something like that.

We'll just have to see how this thing does with points I guess.

[THEnumber337]

Welp, I've been running it since last night. I'm getting 17min/frame. Not sure if that is good or bad for 2610.

Anyone know what kind of points you get for 2610? It's not in the database I normally look at.

2610 = 1523 points.

Earlier in this thread (post 24) Sorin posted up the points. :beer:

[jivetrky]

2610 = 1523 points.

Earlier in this thread (post 24) Sorin posted up the points. :beer:

ACK! that's a big PPD hit. Went from like 2000 or something down to like 1290

I guess I'll have to decide if the annoyance is worth the extra PPD.

[freeagent]

Freeagent: remove/unistall both the SMPD and MPIEXEC services....(if you type those commands into a dos prompt, it will give you the syntax) and then reinstall them, making sure you give the right password.

lee


thank you muchly :)

[THEnumber337]

ACK! that's a big PPD hit. Went from like 2000 or something down to like 1290

I guess I'll have to decide if the annoyance is worth the extra PPD.

From what I've seen the 2610 looks like it gives everyone a PPD hit but the other proteins look to give about the same or just a little bit less PPD.

[nikhsub1]

This client WILL NOT RUN ON VISTA no matter what I do, tried 32 and 64 bit no go, here is the issue, over and over and over. I'm over stanford.[17:58:41] + Processing work unit
[17:58:41] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:58:41] Core found.
[17:58:41] Working on Unit 04 [March 18 17:58:41]
[17:58:41] + Working ...
[17:58:49] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:58:49] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:58:49] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:58:57] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:58:57] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:58:57] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:58:57] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:58:57] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:58:57] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:03] + Closed connections
[17:59:08]
[17:59:08] + Processing work unit
[17:59:08] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:59:08] Core found.
[17:59:08] Working on Unit 05 [March 18 17:59:08]
[17:59:08] + Working ...
[17:59:17] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:59:17] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:59:17] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:59:25] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:59:25] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:59:25] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:59:25] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:59:25] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:59:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:25] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[17:59:40] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:59:40] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:59:40] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:59:40] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:59:40] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:50] + Closed connections
[17:59:55]
[17:59:55] + Processing work unit
[17:59:55] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:59:55] Core found.
[17:59:55] Working on Unit 06 [March 18 17:59:55]
[17:59:55] + Working ...
[18:00:04] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:00:04] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:00:04] - Attempting to download new core...
[18:00:04] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[18:00:05] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[18:00:05] Signature is VALID
[18:00:05]
[18:00:05] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[18:00:05] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[18:00:05] + Core successfully engaged
[18:00:05] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:00:13] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:00:13] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:00:13] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:00:14] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:00:14] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:00:14] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:00:24] + Closed connections
[18:00:29]
[18:00:29] + Processing work unit
[18:00:29] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:00:29] Core found.
[18:00:29] Working on Unit 07 [March 18 18:00:29]
[18:00:29] + Working ...
[18:00:38] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:00:38] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:00:38] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:00:46] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:00:46] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:00:46] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:00:46] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:00:46] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:00:46] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:00:56] + Closed connections
[18:01:01]
[18:01:01] + Processing work unit
[18:01:01] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:01] Core found.
[18:01:01] Working on Unit 08 [March 18 18:01:01]
[18:01:01] + Working ...
[18:01:10] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:01:10] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:01:10] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:01:18] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:01:18] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:18] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:18] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:18] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:18] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:18] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[18:01:24] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:24] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:24] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:24] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:28] + Closed connections
[18:01:33]
[18:01:33] + Processing work unit
[18:01:33] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:33] Core found.
[18:01:33] Working on Unit 09 [March 18 18:01:33]
[18:01:33] + Working ...
[18:01:41] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:01:41] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:01:41] - Attempting to download new core...
[18:01:41] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[18:01:42] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[18:01:42] Signature is VALID
[18:01:42]
[18:01:42] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:42] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[18:01:43] + Core successfully engaged
[18:01:43] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:01:51] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:01:51] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:51] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:51] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:51] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:51] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:54] + Closed connections
[18:01:59]
[18:01:59] + Processing work unit
[18:01:59] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:59] Core found.
[18:01:59] Working on Unit 00 [March 18 18:01:59]
[18:01:59] + Working ...
[18:02:07] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:02:07] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:02:07] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:02:15] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:02:15] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:02:15] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:02:16] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:02:16] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:02:16] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:02:19] + Closed connections
[18:02:20] Service stop request received.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


--- Opening Log file [March 18 18:02:53]


# SMP Client ################################################## ################
################################################## #############################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

################################################## #############################
################################################## #############################

Launch directory: D:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: D:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[18:02:53] - Ask before connecting: No
[18:02:53] - User name: nikhsub1 (Team 32)
[18:02:53] - User ID: 3D0AAABB120D2DDD
[18:02:53] - Machine ID: 1
[18:02:53]
[18:02:53] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:02:53]
[18:02:53] + Processing work unit
[18:02:53] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:02:53] Core found.
[18:02:53] Working on Unit 01 [March 18 18:02:53]
[18:02:53] + Working ...
[18:03:02] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:03:02] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:03:02] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:03:10] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:03:10] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:03:10] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:03:10] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:03:10] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:03:10] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:03:10] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[18:03:23] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:03:23] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:03:23] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:03:23] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:03:23] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:03:34] + Closed connections
[18:03:39]
[18:03:39] + Processing work unit
[18:03:39] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:03:39] Core found.
[18:03:39] Working on Unit 02 [March 18 18:03:39]
[18:03:39] + Working ...
[18:03:47] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:03:47] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:03:47] Deleting current work unit & continuing...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

[dz_jad]

That is the same error I got. Did you even run install.bat?

[nikhsub1]

That is the same error I got. Did you even run install.bat?
Sigh, when i posted that I did not. After I ran install.bat it ran, but now I have a host of other errors. This client blows IMO.

[||Console||]

^ dont say that =) i havent got a chance to use and abuse it yet =)

I really want to try it on my dual xeon

[DorianBrytestar]

I got a few errors until I rebooted. Once it came back up, life was good (well, it was running)

[dz_jad]

Sigh, when i posted that I did not. After I ran install.bat it ran, but now I have a host of other errors. This client blows IMO.
Yeah, I'd say this one truely IS BETA. The last couple really weren't...but the WinSMP is definately the feel of a beta client. The install has problems (that are easily fixed when someone has time).

[benbaked]

^^^ yup, what i was gonna say, it definitely feels like a beta but i don't mind...not if it increases ppd, and it should. The password thing (-1 error) was the only snag I've hit so far.

[LandShark]

to all,

it actually is nice to see Stanford is moving to "multi-direct" and is trying to accommdate everyone!!

for those dedicated folding rig, we have native LinuxSMP for speed!

for those windows production rig, we have either native WinSMP (imho, for low memory system) or VMWare/LinuxSMP (for high memory equiped).

for those non 64bits/non VT processor (e.g. my Yonah laptop), we can finally run WinSMP too!

so, to all his own! everyone now have many choose to run whatever you feel the best for you! there's really no "wrong/lesser" way, or why Stanford shouldn't give us the choose (many different clients/methods)!!

p.s. like me, I'm running all 3 favors of SMP methods.
This client WILL NOT RUN ON VISTA no matter what I do, tried 32 and 64 bit no go, here is the issue, over and over and over. I'm over stanford.[17:58:41] + Processing work unit
[17:58:41] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:58:41] Core found.
[17:58:41] Working on Unit 04 [March 18 17:58:41]
[17:58:41] + Working ...
[17:58:49] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:58:49] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:58:49] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:58:57] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:58:57] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:58:57] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:58:57] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:58:57] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:58:57] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:03] + Closed connections
[17:59:08]
[17:59:08] + Processing work unit
[17:59:08] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:59:08] Core found.
[17:59:08] Working on Unit 05 [March 18 17:59:08]
[17:59:08] + Working ...
[17:59:17] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:59:17] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:59:17] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:59:25] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:59:25] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:59:25] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:59:25] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:59:25] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:59:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:25] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[17:59:40] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:59:40] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:59:40] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:59:40] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:59:40] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:59:50] + Closed connections
[17:59:55]
[17:59:55] + Processing work unit
[17:59:55] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:59:55] Core found.
[17:59:55] Working on Unit 06 [March 18 17:59:55]
[17:59:55] + Working ...
[18:00:04] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:00:04] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:00:04] - Attempting to download new core...
[18:00:04] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[18:00:05] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[18:00:05] Signature is VALID
[18:00:05]
[18:00:05] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[18:00:05] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[18:00:05] + Core successfully engaged
[18:00:05] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:00:13] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:00:13] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:00:13] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:00:14] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:00:14] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:00:14] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:00:24] + Closed connections
[18:00:29]
[18:00:29] + Processing work unit
[18:00:29] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:00:29] Core found.
[18:00:29] Working on Unit 07 [March 18 18:00:29]
[18:00:29] + Working ...
[18:00:38] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:00:38] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:00:38] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:00:46] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:00:46] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:00:46] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:00:46] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:00:46] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:00:46] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:00:56] + Closed connections
[18:01:01]
[18:01:01] + Processing work unit
[18:01:01] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:01] Core found.
[18:01:01] Working on Unit 08 [March 18 18:01:01]
[18:01:01] + Working ...
[18:01:10] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:01:10] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:01:10] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:01:18] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:01:18] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:18] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:18] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:18] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:18] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:18] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[18:01:24] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:24] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:24] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:24] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:25] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:28] + Closed connections
[18:01:33]
[18:01:33] + Processing work unit
[18:01:33] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:33] Core found.
[18:01:33] Working on Unit 09 [March 18 18:01:33]
[18:01:33] + Working ...
[18:01:41] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:01:41] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:01:41] - Attempting to download new core...
[18:01:41] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[18:01:42] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[18:01:42] Signature is VALID
[18:01:42]
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[18:01:42] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[18:01:43] + Core successfully engaged
[18:01:43] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:01:51] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:01:51] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:01:51] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:01:51] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:01:51] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:01:51] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:01:54] + Closed connections
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[18:01:59] + Processing work unit
[18:01:59] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:01:59] Core found.
[18:01:59] Working on Unit 00 [March 18 18:01:59]
[18:01:59] + Working ...
[18:02:07] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:02:07] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:02:07] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:02:15] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:02:15] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:02:15] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:02:16] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:02:16] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:02:16] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:02:19] + Closed connections
[18:02:20] Service stop request received.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.


--- Opening Log file [March 18 18:02:53]


# SMP Client ################################################## ################
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Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

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Launch directory: D:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: D:\Program Files (x86)\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[18:02:53] - Ask before connecting: No
[18:02:53] - User name: nikhsub1 (Team 32)
[18:02:53] - User ID: 3D0AAABB120D2DDD
[18:02:53] - Machine ID: 1
[18:02:53]
[18:02:53] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:02:53]
[18:02:53] + Processing work unit
[18:02:53] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:02:53] Core found.
[18:02:53] Working on Unit 01 [March 18 18:02:53]
[18:02:53] + Working ...
[18:03:02] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:03:02] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:03:02] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[18:03:10] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[18:03:10] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:03:10] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:03:10] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:03:10] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:03:10] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:03:10] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[18:03:23] + Attempting to get work packet
[18:03:23] - Connecting to assignment server
[18:03:23] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[18:03:23] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[18:03:23] Loaded queue successfully.
[18:03:34] + Closed connections
[18:03:39]
[18:03:39] + Processing work unit
[18:03:39] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[18:03:39] Core found.
[18:03:39] Working on Unit 02 [March 18 18:03:39]
[18:03:39] + Working ...
[18:03:47] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[18:03:47] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[18:03:47] Deleting current work unit & continuing...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
Nik, you'll need to turn off UAC (User account control under control panel, user account then reboot) in order to install the install.bat. the error (-1) usally means it's missing the mpiexe service.

[leelegend]

Freeagent: remove/unistall both the SMPD and MPIEXEC services....(if you type those commands into a dos prompt, it will give you the syntax) and then reinstall them, making sure you give the right password.

lee


NIK.....see above, after you have turned off UAC and logged in a admin

it does work, i have it running on 2 vista machines

lee

[Audioaficionado]

UAC and FAH are mutually exclusive. Can't run FAH as a service with UAC even if you do the pass word thing. It just won't let you dig very deep in Vista's internals.

[dfonda]

EDIT: also, I like the windows client for the fact that it actually accepts the fact that it's a low priority process. So when I'm doing something CPU intensive, it backs off and lets me use my PC :) With VMWare i had to turn it off when I wanted to do something like that.

But thats because you have it running under the system name rather then the user name right? So it starts itself.

I set mine to low priority. It backs off nicely.:)

But I have to start mine by hand if I reboot.:(

[Audioaficionado]

Once started even the VM server SMP_FAH can be reduced from normal to low by selecting it in Windows Task Manager, right click, set priority, select low. This setting will hold until you either reboot windows or completely close the vmware-vmx.exe client.

[silent bob]

hey to the problem of the password , I created another profile in which I passworded it and ran teh bat, switched profiles back to original and used the info on this profile . Works fine for my so far , I only got 1 eue so far

[LandShark]

hey to the problem of the password , I created another profile in which I passworded it and ran teh bat, switched profiles back to original and used the info on this profile . Works fine for my so far , I only got 1 eue so far
so, for those w/out a password, you can create a password, install FAH, then remove the password from the user??

[jws2346]

I honestly don't know what the problem is with the Windows SMP client :shrug: . I have installed it and I'm running it on two machines at present, the two WU's I've got are p2652's. My Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (OC'ed 2.40 GHz) tpf is19.34 mins and my C2D E6400 (OC'ed 2.80 GHz) is 13.02 mins. If anything, these times are equal or better than Ubuntu 6.10 SMP. I know all WU's are different, but about all I've ever got in Linux SMP were p260X's. All I did both times was follow the very clear instructions and about five minutes later I was folding in WinXP. It's terrific Stanford finally came out with a Windows client for folding :p

Oh yeah, I have 1 Gig RAM, PC3200 (whatever 200 is) in the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and I Gig DDR2 800 in the C2D. :)

[inkfx]

Why do none of the stats pages say I've completed a WU? I've made sure my account name/team number is correct. I'm almost done with my 2nd WU from SMP now and I'd love to see the points it's giving me.

[jivetrky]

I did mine by making another account on my computer for FAH. I gave that one a password. I then used TweakUI to remove it from the welcome screen so that my computer would boot as it normally does (without ever asking for a user/pass)

And when I installed my FAH, I did the advanced options and told it to set to LOW priority. When I goto the task manager, the fah process itself it still "normal", but the 4 "FahCore_a1" processes are automatically set to LOW priority.

I then put the fah link in my startup folder and downloaded a program called "Auto Window Manager v1.22 (http://www.eusing.com/WindowManager/WindowManager.htm)". It's a freeware program that will allow you to set specific programs to automatically minimize to the tray when they are opened. So, while I don't have the ability to set it up as a service where it'll automatically restart if it crashes, it will auto start and not popup in the way.


EDIT: BTW, the only issue I'm having with that manager program is that if I bring the FAH window up to be nosy, the link it gives in the right click menu has a "minimize to tray", but it doesn't work for me. So I have to double click the Auto Window Manager icon in the system tray, bring it up, then right click FAH in it's listing and tell it to minimize.

[Sleepy_Steve]

Good stuff!!!!

About time too. I only wish it was out sooner. Using 2x single cores on my main (and only SMP capable) rig was torture after trying out the Linux SMP client which would net me ~2400 PPD from a single rig.

[pscout]

Why do none of the stats pages say I've completed a WU? I've made sure my account name/team number is correct. I'm almost done with my 2nd WU from SMP now and I'd love to see the points it's giving me.

EOC shows a 2652 (1148 pts) this mornig and stanford says you have another but its not updated at EOC yet.

DST seems to be screwing up the stats a bit ... apparently the stanford servers are not on DST yet :eek: while I think eoc is.

I have many rigs behind an hour still since i turn of windows updates on most of my farm rigs so they don't have the dst fix ... it should all resolve itself when the normal dst date arrives.

I have a bunch of pts not showing on eoc yet too :shrug:

[inkfx]

EOC shows a 2652 (1148 pts) this mornig and stanford says you have another but its not updated at EOC yet.

DST seems to be screwing up the stats a bit ... apparently the stanford servers are not on DST yet :eek: while it think eoc is.

I have many rigs behind an hour still since i turn of windows updates on most of my farm rigs so they don't have the dst fix ... it should all resolve itself when the normal dst date arrives.

I have a bunch of pts not showing on eoc yet too :shrug:
Just checked again and Stanfords site seems the most up to date. As long as these points keep comin' in I don't mind what the site says. :) My 3.0E is down, for now. Hopefully I can get my dads E6600 on SMP tonight or tomorrow morning.

[pscout]

Just checked again and Stanfords site seems the most up to date. As long as these points keep comin' in I don't mind what the site says. :) My 3.0E is down, for now. Hopefully I can get my dads E6600 on SMP tonight or tomorrow morning.

Stanford is the source of all the stats for eoc and others ... it is the official book of record, so if it aint on stanford, you won't see it anywhere else.

An unborged 6600 in your house!!!!!?

:)

[jivetrky]

This is a bit of a shock to the system. I was getting used to completing those 2605's in 18 hours. Now this 2610 has been going 21 hours and is only 72% done. :(

[pscout]

This is a bit of a shock to the system. I was getting used to completing those 2605's in 18 hours. Now this 2610 has been going 21 hours and is only 72% done. :(

If i wasn't having problems getting linux wu's for the DC rigs (quads are ok - smaller? and ok) i would be running most of mine native linux ... ppd is a lot better atm.

Not sure why ... isp or local lan i guess since nobody else seems to have the problem. Size of download is a problem, i am convinced the stanford server(s) doesn't like me or my isp's ip address for me. Size of wu isn't the issue since some of the win smp wu's are larger than the linux 2604/05 wu's ( >3 MB download) ... software stack issue ubuntu + combination of isp/stanford server?? :shrug:

I am in the process of upgrading my farm lan ( i mean my home lan in case my wife reads this - NOT! ) so i should be in a better position to diagnose root cause :shrug:

[jivetrky]

I really wish that I could run the vmware/linux setup and not have it be so obtrusive. I'm always having to turn it off because I can't get it to properly work at a low priority.
And then there's times when others are using my computer, they don't have a clue as to what's going on with that stuff. Like my daugher. She has her own computer, but she sometimes likes to play Oblivion. (she's 5 BTW :)) Since her computer is too old to play it, she uses mine. But the VMware keeps sucking all the CPU and doesn't let anything else use it. Whereas today, the Windows SMP was running and she fired up Oblivion and all was well.

So I think that while I'd love to be getting those extra points, I think the convenience and near invisibility of the windows SMP makes it the better choice for me.

[benbaked]

What PPD would a dual processor Tualatin-S 1.26 board make (assuming it can make the SMP deadlines)?

[Jon]

Geez...88% done and I get a connection error and it deletes the work. If this happens again, I'm going to assume my losses and go back to two clients. It's definitely been showing how beta it is to me.

[Jon]

What PPD would a dual processor Tualatin-S 1.26 board make (assuming it can make the SMP deadlines)?

I believe Silver was not going to make the deadline with a pair of 1.7GHz Xeons, so I wouldn't have high hopes for that.

[ChasR]

If you set FAH to low priority on a machine you use, it will interfere with some applications, making your system noticeably slower. The designers intend FAH to run at idle priority so that it uses only truly idle cpu cycles. THe low priority setting is for use with another distributed computing project that steals all or most cpu cycles from FAH.

[pscout]

I really wish that I could run the vmware/linux setup and not have it be so obtrusive. I'm always having to turn it off because I can't get it to properly work at a low priority.
And then there's times when others are using my computer, they don't have a clue as to what's going on with that stuff. Like my daugher. She has her own computer, but she sometimes likes to play Oblivion. (she's 5 BTW :)) Since her computer is too old to play it, she uses mine. But the VMware keeps sucking all the CPU and doesn't let anything else use it. Whereas today, the Windows SMP was running and she fired up Oblivion and all was well.

So I think that while I'd love to be getting those extra points, I think the convenience and near invisibility of the windows SMP makes it the better choice for me.

I agree for your kind of usage, the win smp client is much better overall ... you don't get a higher ppd with linux if it ain't running all the time - i have that problem too if i can't monitor them closely.

The public beta for win smp seems more stable to me than native linux.

I found vmware/linux also very stable, but once we started getting wu's that didn't work well with 900D's under vmware, i had to give it up since i had it mostly on my 930 rigs so they could gpu fold. Now i don't have any gpu's folding since it doesn't releiably produce coexisting with smp.

[dz_jad]

Now i don't have any gpu's folding since it doesn't releiably produce coexisting with smp.
I've been getting around 1k ppd with the card in my sig, clocks at 704/755(?) and 1 instance of the uniproc. With WinSMP I got 700 PPD with the best configuration...and I'm hitting 800ppd with GPU alone.
All of that of course depends on the CPUs you've got running, I think SMP is a different story with C2Ds, but with my X2, GPU is the way to go.

[sno.lcn]

So I finished a wu last night and my computer locked up. I restarted this morning and now it's telling me this:

[03:54:53] Completed 465000 out of 500000 steps (93 percent)
[04:15:54] Writing local files
[04:15:54] Completed 470000 out of 500000 steps (94 percent)
[04:37:04] Writing local files
[04:37:04] Completed 475000 out of 500000 steps (95 percent)
[04:57:59] Writing local files
[04:58:00] Completed 480000 out of 500000 steps (96 percent)
[05:18:52] Writing local files
[05:18:52] Completed 485000 out of 500000 steps (97 percent)
[05:39:44] Writing local files
[05:39:44] Completed 490000 out of 500000 steps (98 percent)
[06:00:35] Writing local files
[06:00:35] Completed 495000 out of 500000 steps (99 percent)
[06:21:25] Writing local files
[06:21:25] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100 percent)
[06:21:25] Writing final coordinates.
[06:21:26] Past main M.D. loop
[06:21:26] Will end MPI now


--- Opening Log file [March 20 15:31:42]


# SMP Client ################################################## ################
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Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

################################################## #############################
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Launch directory: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[15:31:42] - Ask before connecting: No
[15:31:42] - User name: folding_monkeys (Team 32)
[15:31:42] - User ID: 3D6282F058A24C0C
[15:31:42] - Machine ID: 1
[15:31:42]
[15:31:42] Loaded queue successfully.
[15:31:42]
[15:31:42] + Processing work unit
[15:31:42] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[15:31:42] Core found.
[15:31:42] Working on Unit 01 [March 20 15:31:42]
[15:31:42] + Working ...
[15:31:42]
[15:31:42] *------------------------------*
[15:31:42] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[15:31:42] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[15:31:42]
[15:31:42] Preparing to commence simulation
[15:31:42] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[15:31:59] - Looking at optimizations...
[15:31:59] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[15:31:59] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[15:31:59] - Files status OK
[15:32:05] - Expanded 2171139 -> 12854153 (decompressed 592.0 percent)
[15:32:06]
[15:32:06] Project: 2651 (Run 0, Clone 109, Gen 0)
[15:32:06]
[15:32:07] Entering M.D.
[15:32:13] Calling FAH init
[15:32:14] in POPC
[15:32:14] Writing local files
[15:32:14] checkpoint)
[15:32:14] Read checkpoint
[15:32:14] Protein: Protein in POPC
[15:32:15] Writing local files
[15:32:15] Completed 500000 out of 500000 steps (100 percent)
[15:32:16] Extra SSE boost OK.
[15:32:16] Writing final coordinates.
[15:32:17] Past main M.D. loop
[15:32:17] Will end MPI now
[15:33:17]
[15:33:17] Finished Work Unit:
[15:33:17] - Reading up to 3714144 from "work/wudata_01.arc": Read 3714144
[15:33:17] - Reading up to 1929088 from "work/wudata_01.xtc": Read 1929088
[15:33:17] goefile size: 0
[15:33:17] logfile size: 36456
[15:33:17] Leaving Run
[15:33:21] - Writing 5685336 bytes of core data to disk...
[15:33:21] ... Done.
[15:33:21] - Failed to delete work/wudata_01.sas
[15:33:21] - Failed to delete work/wudata_01.goe
[15:33:21] Warning: check for stray files
[15:33:21] - Shutting down core

[dz_jad]

ya post that over on the folding-communtity forum?

[pscout]

I have seen those messages regularly but no problems with the cleint stopping or system hanging.

I did have to adjust my oc on 3 rigs when i started running the win smp beta tho. Mine rebooted themselves rather than freezing.

[DorianBrytestar]

Holy crap....


[13:44:09] Completed 0 out of 1000000 steps (0 percent)


This is going to take awhile..

[ihrsetrdr]

I believe Silver was not going to make the deadline with a pair of 1.7GHz Xeons, so I wouldn't have high hopes for that.

Yea, ChasR delivered the news about my dual 1.7GHz Xeons yesterday. Going to just run 2 clients in Linux. Last time I was doing non-SMP Linux folding, was getting a steady diet of P1496's. I can live with that. ;)

[sno.lcn]

I have seen those messages regularly but no problems with the cleint stopping or system hanging.

I did have to adjust my oc on 3 rigs when i started running the win smp beta tho. Mine rebooted themselves rather than freezing.

Well I bumped the vcore up to 1.32 (from 1.27) so hopefully that helps. It's running a little warmer now so I just turned the a/c down to ~68 :D

[leelegend]

Geez...88% done and I get a connection error and it deletes the work. If this happens again, I'm going to assume my losses and go back to two clients. It's definitely been showing how beta it is to me.

i was surprised it came out of open beta straight from alpha testing (after a stalled attempt at closed beta).....it seems a bit flakey on the core communications front, but the same thing happended with early cores on the linux smp and deffo on the OSX SMP client, be patient it will sort itself out.:beer:

lee

[pscout]

I've been getting around 1k ppd with the card in my sig, clocks at 704/755(?) and 1 instance of the uniproc. With WinSMP I got 700 PPD with the best configuration...and I'm hitting 800ppd with GPU alone.
All of that of course depends on the CPUs you've got running, I think SMP is a different story with C2Ds, but with my X2, GPU is the way to go.

Thanks for the info ... i'll have to be more careful to qualify my comments that they relate to my intel farm

... which currently is about 60% c2d, and 40% 930d's getting <22 min frame times on worst SMP wu's - they range from ~900-2100 ppd on the win smp beta wu's.

... I am glad to see that there are effective gpu folding configs other than AGP :)

[leelegend]

i can keep the gpu going on my quad....its a bit hit and miss on the E6600, i might put my x1950 into my macpro and run a winsmp and gpu...instead of the OSX SMP that it is running now

lee

[nikhsub1]

OK, this client is utter dung and I will not run it. It will run but EVERY time I close it and then reopen it it says that an error has occurred :rolleyes: and will use standard optimizations, then, it just does nothing it just sits there like a dumb stepchild. Utter. Dung.

[dz_jad]

OK, this client is utter dung and I will not run it. It will run but EVERY time I close it and then reopen it it says that an error has occurred :rolleyes: and will use standard optimizations, then, it just does nothing it just sits there like a dumb stepchild. Utter. Dung.
Oh well. Good luck when the Release version comes out!

[benbaked]

Yea, ChasR delivered the news about my dual 1.7GHz Xeons yesterday. Going to just run 2 clients in Linux. Last time I was doing non-SMP Linux folding, was getting a steady diet of P1496's. I can live with that. ;)

Those are essentially Willamette cores right? Would a dual Tualatin-S system fold faster?

[dmatko]

im with you nik. so far, i have yet to figure out why i keep getting either errors, or it doesnt even fold. im gonna stay with the linux client till something is figured out at http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic18575.html might wanna add to what problems your having since it sounds like what im havin to deal with as well at times.

[leelegend]

OK, this client is utter dung and I will not run it. It will run but EVERY time I close it and then reopen it it says that an error has occurred :rolleyes: and will use standard optimizations, then, it just does nothing it just sits there like a dumb stepchild. Utter. Dung.

my god you are showing your age....:eek: :) :)

the latest version is fine with the ctrl+c, and then restart with the -forceasm

the early version had issues, but this is better

i admit.....not fit for release :)

lee

[LandShark]

I'm sorry to hear the WinSMP client doesn't work out on your case Nik. even tho I've no problem at all since the day it release.... especially now the open beta version, it seems pretty stable and runs fine for me even I have it auto start on a vista machine.

[Pomegranate]

OK, this client is utter dung and I will not run it. It will run but EVERY time I close it and then reopen it it says that an error has occurred :rolleyes: and will use standard optimizations, then, it just does nothing it just sits there like a dumb stepchild. Utter. Dung.

I have the same problem starting up without the -forceasm switch. Just stick -forceasm into the shortcut and it will solve everything. Did for me anyhow.

[Goshawk]

Just got my new quad up on this ( rig in sig ), 8 minutes on the first frame :beer:

CPU is sitting nicely around 36 / 37c fully loaded



~ Gos

[||Console||]

What did I do wrong



--- Opening Log file [March 21 17:10:14]


# SMP Client ################################################## ################
################################################## #############################

Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

################################################## #############################
################################################## #############################

Launch directory: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01
Executable: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah.exe


[17:10:14] Configuring Folding@Home...


The program will continue in non-service mode now, working in C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01.
The next time the computer is starts up, you should see work automatically
continue there. Note that when this service is running, you should not try
to manually run F@H from that directory at the same time.


[17:10:41] - Ask before connecting: No
[17:10:41] - User name: ||Console|| (Team 32)
[17:10:41] - User ID: C9DF20237501B3
[17:10:41] - Machine ID: 1
[17:10:41]
[17:10:41] Work directory not found. Creating...
[17:10:41] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[17:10:41] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:10:41] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:10:41] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:10:41] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:10:41] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:10:42] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:10:57] + Closed connections
[17:10:57]
[17:10:57] + Processing work unit
[17:10:57] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:10:57] Core not found.
[17:10:57] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[17:10:57] - Attempting to download new core...
[17:10:57] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[17:11:00] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[17:11:00] Signature is VALID
[17:11:00]
[17:11:00] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[17:11:00] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[17:11:00] + Core successfully engaged
[17:11:05]
[17:11:05] + Processing work unit
[17:11:05] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:11:05] Core found.
[17:11:05] Working on Unit 01 [March 21 17:11:05]
[17:11:05] + Working ...
[17:11:15] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:11:15] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:11:15] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:11:23] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:11:23] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:11:23] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:11:24] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:11:24] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:11:24] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:11:35] + Closed connections
[17:11:40]
[17:11:40] + Processing work unit
[17:11:40] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:11:40] Core found.
[17:11:40] Working on Unit 02 [March 21 17:11:40]
[17:11:40] + Working ...
[17:11:49] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:11:49] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:11:49] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:11:57] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:11:57] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:11:57] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:11:57] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:11:57] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:11:57] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:12:12] + Closed connections
[17:12:17]
[17:12:17] + Processing work unit
[17:12:17] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:12:17] Core found.
[17:12:17] Working on Unit 03 [March 21 17:12:17]
[17:12:17] + Working ...
[17:12:25] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:12:25] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:12:25] - Attempting to download new core...
[17:12:25] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
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[17:12:28] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[17:12:28] Signature is VALID
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[17:12:28] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[17:12:29] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[17:12:29] + Core successfully engaged
[17:12:29] Deleting current work unit & continuing...
[17:12:37] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[17:12:37] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:12:37] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:12:37] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:12:37] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:12:37] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:12:38] - Error: Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[17:12:45] + Attempting to get work packet
[17:12:45] - Connecting to assignment server
[17:12:46] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[17:12:46] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[17:12:46] Loaded queue successfully.
[17:12:59] + Closed connections
[17:13:04]
[17:13:04] + Processing work unit
[17:13:04] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[17:13:04] Core found.
[17:13:04] Working on Unit 04 [March 21 17:13:04]
[17:13:04] + Working ...
[17:13:12] CoreStatus = FFFFFFFF (-1)
[17:13:12] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0xffffffff
[17:13:12] Deleting current work unit & continuing...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown at user request.

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

[benbaked]

Console do you have a password setup for your Windows account? I had the same problems on my XP machine until I setup an account password and then all was well. After you do that you need to run install.bat in the directory that the FAH SMP client installs into, it will ask for your user account name and password, then if correct it will say something like successful and you'll be in like flint.

Here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=505126) is leelegend's guide to making this work.

[Jon]

I was finally successful in getting this installed and working as a service on 4 systems at work. No clue on how they're going to do down the road, but so far, so good.

I did find that in the case of domain account installs, mpiexec prefers logon credentials for a local uid/pwd and in the service console it needs an actual domain uid/pwd to function correctly.

My next task is to get them remotely installed as a service using psexec...

[||Console||]

Console do you have a password setup for your Windows account? I had the same problems on my XP machine until I setup an account password and then all was well. After you do that you need to run install.bat in the directory that the FAH SMP client installs into, it will ask for your user account name and password, then if correct it will say something like successful and you'll be in like flint.

Here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=505126) is leelegend's guide to making this work.

I did have a pw but i didnt run that install bat . looks liek it is working fine now =) This is on a dual 3ghz xeon with ht and 2 gigs of ram and server 2003 .

[||Console||]

[17:33:46] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[17:33:46] Entering M.D.
[17:34:02] ial work packet
[17:34:02]
[17:34:02] Project: 2610 (Run 1, Clone 402, Gen 0)
[17:34:02]
[17:34:03] Entering M.D.
[17:34:10] Rejecting checkpoint
[17:34:13] Protein: Protein
[17:34:13] Writing local files
[17:34:14] Extra SSE boost OK.
[17:34:15] Writing local files
[17:34:16] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0 percent)
[18:00:58] Writing local files
[18:00:59] Completed 5000 out of 500000 steps (1 percent)
[18:27:39] Writing local files
[18:27:40] Completed 10000 out of 500000 steps (2 percent)
[18:54:22] Writing local files
[18:54:23] Completed 15000 out of 500000 steps (3 percent)
[19:21:06] Writing local files
[19:21:06] Completed 20000 out of 500000 steps (4 percent)
[19:47:48] Writing local files
[19:47:49] Completed 25000 out of 500000 steps (5 percent)
[20:14:31] Writing local files
[20:14:31] Completed 30000 out of 500000 steps (6 percent)
[20:41:14] Writing local files
[20:41:14] Completed 35000 out of 500000 steps (7 percent)
[21:07:57] Writing local files
[21:07:57] Completed 40000 out of 500000 steps (8 percent)
[21:34:40] Writing local files
[21:34:41] Completed 45000 out of 500000 steps (9 percent)

[Goshawk]

The quad blasted though all of the work available for this, it can't find more work to do :/


~ Gos

[jivetrky]

Alright, so I'm a little upset this morning. I was scrolling back in the FAH window. And the darned thing hasn't been sending my WU's in!!

[13:23:32] + Attempting to send results
[13:24:06] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[13:24:06] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:24:06] (171.65.103.100:8080)
[13:24:06] Could not transmit unit 04 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:24:06] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[13:24:06] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:24:06] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:24:09] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[13:24:09] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:24:09] Loaded queue successfully.


[13:24:26] + Attempting to send results
[13:24:57] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[13:24:57] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:24:57] (171.64.65.64:8080)
[13:24:57] - Error: Could not transmit unit 04 (completed March 23) to work serv
er.


[13:24:57] + Attempting to send results
[13:25:29] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[13:25:29] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[13:25:29] (171.65.103.100:8080)
[13:25:29] Could not transmit unit 04 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[13:25:29] + Closed connections
[13:25:29]

And then I scrolled back a little more and it says that the 2nd WU had expired becuase it never sent it in! So I've completed 4 WU's (which is probably like 6000 points or so) and none of them are going to count because the damn thing won't send them in.

I don't understand why it can connect to the servers to download new WU's, but it can't send them. I thought perhaps my firewall was causing the problem, but I have all of the FAH processes set to fully open (SMPD, FAH, FahCore_a1, & mpiexec) and it still won't send! :mad: :mad:


Anyone have any suggestions on how I can at least try to get it to send these in before I say heck with this windows SMP?

[||Console||]

Mine has been submiting fine sry cant help . What version of windows you ruuning ?

[jivetrky]

Mine has been submiting fine sry cant help . What version of windows you ruuning ?


Win XP Home w/SP2

[jivetrky]

I tried this:

C:\Program Files\FAH>fah -send all

Note: Please read the license agreement (fah -license). Further
use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement.

2 cores detected
No directory settings found in registry. Using current directory...


--- Opening Log file [March 23 16:41:57]


# SMP Client ################################################## ################
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Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta

http://folding.stanford.edu

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Launch directory: C:\Program Files\FAH
Executable: fah
Arguments: -send all

[16:41:57] - Ask before connecting: No
[16:41:57] - Use IE connection settings: Yes
[16:41:57] - User name: jivetrky (Team 32)
[16:41:57] - User ID: 290ED23C31E14562
[16:41:57] - Machine ID: 1
[16:41:57]
[16:41:57] Loaded queue successfully.
[16:41:57] Attempting to return result(s) to server...


[16:41:57] + Attempting to send results
[16:42:28] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[16:42:28] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[16:42:28] (171.64.65.64:8080)
[16:42:28] - Error: Could not transmit unit 04 (completed March 23) to work serv
er.


[16:42:28] + Attempting to send results
[16:43:01] Couldn't send HTTP request to server (wininet)
[16:43:01] + Could not connect to Work Server (results)
[16:43:01] (171.65.103.100:8080)
[16:43:01] Could not transmit unit 04 to Collection server; keeping in queue.
[16:43:01] - Failed to send all units to server

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.

C:\Program Files\FAH>




In my firewall windows (Comodo) I watched the FAH process sending ~3MB of info SOMEWHERE But then I got that error saying it couldn't connect. :(


Perhaps I'll backup my work directory and try reinstalling.

[benbaked]

Perhaps I'll backup my work directory and try reinstalling.

Damn jivetrky that sucks, that would've been my first suggestion too. Did it work?

[ChasR]

Run the client with the -config flag and set use IE settings to no.

[jivetrky]

Run the client with the -config flag and set use IE settings to no.


Well, after loosing everything (after putting the backed-up work directory back in there and doing a -send all it wouldn't send anything. :mad:

this, BTW, is after a full reinstall and setting the IE settings to NO And from monitoring my firewall, it's communicating just fine with the servers.

It's now plugging away at a new 2610 WU

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I wanted to try making a second temporary directory just to see if I could get those non expired WU's to send to server :mad:

But after running the config, and setting it to a different machine ID, the queue is empty. So how do I tell it that those WU's are there?

[moz_21]

I just turned in my first WU with it. I'm curious as to the pointage on it since fahmon doesn't show it.

[pscout]

I just turned in my first WU with it. I'm curious as to the pointage on it since fahmon doesn't show it.

Uncle _fungus has done some mod's/updates to fahmon to support some of the open beta's so it will report points etc. on the current open beta wu's

http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic18570.html

At some point i believe the plan is that his mods will get rolled into the official fahmon version.

[Pomegranate]

Well, after loosing everything (after putting the backed-up work directory back in there and doing a -send all it wouldn't send anything. :mad:

this, BTW, is after a full reinstall and setting the IE settings to NO And from monitoring my firewall, it's communicating just fine with the servers.


I always set everything to NO except for allowing big WU's. Haven't had a problem yet since activating -forceasm. Turned in 4 WU's already and working on #5.

[dfonda]

I'm curious as to the pointage on it since fahmon doesn't show it.
Sorin(Look for the Ying and Yang avatar) lists the points on the second page of this thread.

EDIT: Post #24 2nd page for me first page for others(Thanks Sorin)

[moz_21]

Sorin(Look for the Ying and Yang avatar) lists the points on the second page of this thread.

I thought I saw it but I wasn't sure which site... thanks I'll look.

[jivetrky]

Sorin(Look for the Ying and Yang avatar) lists the points on the second page of this thread.


Actually I think it's the first page, isn't it? It is for me anyway. Post #24 (http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=4981156&postcount=24)

[Sorin]

I think default is 10 posts per page? Not sure anymore, whenever I sign up at a new forum I set my preference to 30 posts.

[veryhumid]

Rev and I are in!

[Audioaficionado]

Max is 50 for this forum.

[Sorin]

Has anyone else been getting work units for the past couple of days, for the windows smp? If so, I have to figure out what's going on.

[dfonda]

VMware smp is working OK Sorin if you need to do that temporarily.

[LandShark]

Has anyone else been getting work units for the past couple of days, for the windows smp? If so, I have to figure out what's going on.
got WUs w/out any problem here. :cool:

[Sorin]

I'm still doing VMware on my own box, but I had switched my parents box back home over to windows smp from two uniprocessor clients. It completed a couple of units, but for the last two days or so it hasn't been able to get more work. It connects to the server and everything (real numbers, not the 0.0.0.0), but can't get work. I've switched it back to the uniprocessors, which each got new work just fine.

Ah well.

[dfonda]

I need you to get it fixed:eek: we are going to hit the top of the page within a half day of each other.I don't want to back into it. At which time and from henceforth I won't have to eat your dust anymore.:)

[benbaked]

Has anyone else been getting work units for the past couple of days, for the windows smp? If so, I have to figure out what's going on.

Yeah I just picked one up last night on my 930 in winsmp.

[Sorin]

I need you to get it fixed:eek: we are going to hit the top of the page within a half day of each other.I don't want to back into it. At which time and from henceforth I won't have to eat your dust anymore.:)

If I knew what was wrong. :( The uniprocessors got work fine, but the SMP can't. I've done nothing differently. The box just sits there idle all day (my mom just uses her laptop these days), so it's nothing anyone did. Firewall is turned off. Everything else is in order as far as I can tell. It just turned a unit in one day, and hasn't been able to get another one since.

[Misfit138]

I installed the SMP client, and reinstalled several times but it seems to just quit working after a few hours. It'll churn away, saving every 3 minutes and then my cpu usage will go to 0% and the cores disappear from my task manager.:bang head

[pscout]

Sorin, & Misfit ... have you restarted the clients, rebooted the rigs?

The win smp is still beta and still has bugs.

For the most part, the win client has been pretty stable for me, much more so than the earlier closed beta.

But the rigs i have running it are completely dedicated with nothing else running on them, and very little software installed.

[Misfit138]

Sorin, & Misfit ... have you restarted the clients, rebooted the rigs?

The win smp is still beta and still has bugs.

For the most part, the win client has been pretty stable for me, much more so than the earlier closed beta.

But the rigs i have running it are completely dedicated with nothing else running on them, and very little software installed.

Yes, I suspect it has to do with its beta status. I have played some BF2, and surfed with Firefox on the machine, and the cores seem to quit on their own...even without other applications running.

[pscout]

One thing that seems to cause this to happen is if the lan is changed ... connected, reconfigured, etc while the client is running.

Appears to be a regular issue on laptops ... i read one recent thread that if you will be experienceing disconnects, to start the client with it disconnected ... and when it reconnects/disconnects the client/cores will keep going.

I wouldn't be suprised if vpn usage could trigger this on a rig since the one i use reconfig's the ip addressing when it is in use.

Since the smp client uses the loopback adapter 127.0.0.0 to communicate between cores for sync etc, they seem to be suceptible to any network change.

I suspect this may be a problem for stanford to get a reliable solution to if it depends a lot on the 'exception' behaviour of the lan drivers and tcp/ip stack since i imagine this can vary a lot from rig to rig.

The good news is that at least in my experience, when client/cores get into this state, a restart of the client usually works fine. Ocassionally i have had to re-run the install.bat (or just do the mpiexec -register ?) when i get a communication error -1 FFFFF on a client restart - it seems the mpiexec can get in a bad state for various (unknown to me) reasons. The wu then picks up from its last checkpoint.

[Deathknight]

Just installed the win SMP client on my new rig (QX6700). Seeing frame times just over 10 minutes (maybe 10:15 or 10:20 on average) on a 2651. Still running at stock speeds (for now!). Since this is a new rig I have no basis of comparison to the linux smp client, but if I may try and get that running next week for a direct comparison.

[Misfit138]

One thing that seems to cause this to happen is if the lan is changed ... connected, reconfigured, etc while the client is running.

Appears to be a regular issue on laptops ... i read one recent thread that if you will be experienceing disconnects, to start the client with it disconnected ... and when it reconnects/disconnects the client/cores will keep going.

I wouldn't be suprised if vpn usage could trigger this on a rig since the one i use reconfig's the ip addressing when it is in use.

Since the smp client uses the loopback adapter 127.0.0.0 to communicate between cores for sync etc, they seem to be suceptible to any network change.

I suspect this may be a problem for stanford to get a reliable solution to if it depends a lot on the 'exception' behaviour of the lan drivers and tcp/ip stack since i imagine this can vary a lot from rig to rig.


That sort of makes sense, as I am using a wireless USB adaptor until I get FiOS hooked up....

[Jon]

One thing that seems to cause this to happen is if the lan is changed ... connected, reconfigured, etc while the client is running.

Appears to be a regular issue on laptops ... i read one recent thread that if you will be experienceing disconnects, to start the client with it disconnected ... and when it reconnects/disconnects the client/cores will keep going.

I wouldn't be suprised if vpn usage could trigger this on a rig since the one i use reconfig's the ip addressing when it is in use.

Since the smp client uses the loopback adapter 127.0.0.0 to communicate between cores for sync etc, they seem to be suceptible to any network change.

I suspect this may be a problem for stanford to get a reliable solution to if it depends a lot on the 'exception' behaviour of the lan drivers and tcp/ip stack since i imagine this can vary a lot from rig to rig.

The good news is that at least in my experience, when client/cores get into this state, a restart of the client usually works fine. Ocassionally i have had to re-run the install.bat (or just do the mpiexec -register ?) when i get a communication error -1 FFFFF on a client restart - it seems the mpiexec can get in a bad state for various (unknown to me) reasons. The wu then picks up from its last checkpoint.

I noticed this last week. I regularly VPN into my home from work to check on my DV encoding projects and one out of every 3 sessions or so would result in the connection error. I knew it had to be related, but I didn't pay it much mind and started stopping the client before starting a VPN session.

[benbaked]

Just installed the win SMP client on my new rig (QX6700). Seeing frame times just over 10 minutes (maybe 10:15 or 10:20 on average) on a 2651.

Wow, that's like 2300 PPD or so! :drool: I want a quad-core.

[inkfx]

Dropped clock down to 3Ghz and SMP is completely stable now. (was at 3.2 before) I'm getting ~19 minute frames now on the p2610.

[thideras]

Thanks for telling us, I'm up and running with the Windows SMP client now, will update with my frame times.

EDIT: 21mins a frame. I also can't run it as a services, it just sits there and does nothing, once I run it in a command window, everything starts working.

[davekusa]

My native Linux just crashed. I've been having stability problems with the computer for the last week (thought it was a hardware issue). Installed windows and no problems. Smp windows client is about a 50% cut in PPD production on a e4300. Going to get naked and reinstall Linux (Fisty Fawn).

update:

This install of fiesty fawn went much smoother than the first time. Up and running 11:30 a frame at 2200 PPD.
I don't know if fiestys updates had anything to do with the instability?

[thideras]

Going to get naked and reinstall Linux (Fisty Fawn).

O.o

[H2]

I installed the Windows Beta SMP Client on my Dual Xeon in my sig. I couldn't quite make the time limit.

Project 2610 for 1523 points, deadline is 4 days.

My Dual Xeon at 3000mhz takes 61 min a frame. To make the deadline you have to do it under 57 min a frame :(

[benbaked]

I got to 94% on my 930 and then got an EUE, and Avast came up with a warning that the Nutcracker family malware/virus was found in the winsmp work folder.

EDIT: looks like a false positive
link (http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:ICt0uts8bcAJ:forums.extremeovercloc king.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D247983+nutcracker+virus+foldi ng&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

94% then an EUE :(

[Mustanley]

The 2610 is taking 30+ minutes per frame on my X2... while it could do a 2605 in vmware at 24 minutes per frame. Wish I knew why this 2610 is taking so long.

benbaked: what are your frame times on that 930? I've got a few work machines that could be switched over to SMP service now.

[Jon]

I have ten 820s and they are doing 2651s at a hair less than 31mpf. 2610s are taking 26mpf. 2652s are at 26mpf.

[Mustanley]

Thanks for the info Jon :)

so what's up with my overclocked X2 taking 31-34 mpf on it's first 2610? eh, maybe it's VISTA, who knows.

[Jon]

Not sure. I've got a 3800+ at home that is not currently overclocked since my Ballistix is on another RMA. It's crunching on a 2651 at the moment at exactly 33mpf. It will also do 2652s at 24mpf. It is on XP.

[benbaked]

Thanks for the info Jon :)

so what's up with my overclocked X2 taking 31-34 mpf on it's first 2610? eh, maybe it's VISTA, who knows.

Mustanley, my overclocked X2 is taking 37 mpf on a 2610. This is on xp x64 edition. Pretty lame...a beta bug possibly?

Also, I've had issues with the Windows SMP client and Norton Internet Security 2006. Norton continually asks me to approve or deny the client's attempts to access the network, even if I tell it to "always allow". That is a Norton probably me thinks, anyone else having that issue?

[funnyperson1]

How do you see the mpf? Mine seems to be performing well, I outperformed my entire month of February output in the last week and I have spent a decent chunk of time ocing/Orthos stress testing in the middle.

[benbaked]

How do you see the mpf?

I just subtract the previous frame timestamp from the latest frame timestamp in the logs. The minutes between frames are consistent on all of my machines.

[Mustanley]

I stopped using the windows Beta SMP client yesterday becuase it was waaaaay too unstable on my rig. Riddled with client errors, unable to get work, windows blue screens, etc. Back to running two regular clients without a problem same overclock and all. The VMware smp client worked much better for me too. I may switch back to that.

[benbaked]

The VMware smp client worked much better for me too. I may switch back to that.

I'll be switching my X2 back to the vmware/linux method today as well. It was working flawlessly, except for Tuesday when a brownout shutoff most of my machines...thus completely losing a WU as I had never installed ubuntu to a hard drive image but instead was running it off of the livecd. :bang head

i wonder if suzie sabotaged my power line...:rolleyes:

[||Console||]

I'll be switching my X2 back to the vmware/linux method today as well. It was working flawlessly, except for Tuesday when a brownout shutoff most of my machines...thus completely losing a WU as I had never installed ubuntu to a hard drive image but instead was running it off of the livecd. :bang head

i wonder if suzie sabotaged my power line...:rolleyes:
LOL

I havent had a single probelm with the beta . It has finished 4 wus and not once has it had a prob sendding or getting wu's maybe it likes 2003 sevrer

[Jon]

I set up 10 work systems last week on the SMP client running as a service and I've only had one require me to delete all the work files and re-register the components. I've had a little less luck on it at home, but it appears to me that it is much less forgiving of overclocked systems. My X2 box has had nothing but problems with it, but I fear that is mostly due to failing hardware.

I'd like to toss it on about 8-10 more systems here at work, but they would mostly be systems used by accounting and CS personnel and with the memory demands it has, I'm afraid they'd notice too much of a hit.

I'm definitely enjoying the points boost as of late with what I have switched over though!

[William Hung]

I thought with my little switch I'd be able to pull to even with you on ppd, but that was when you were 9k-10k ppd.

Now... well, I'm outta rigs and electrical sockets! :)

[Jon]

I thought with my little switch I'd be able to pull to even with you on ppd, but that was when you were 9k-10k ppd.

Now... well, I'm outta rigs and electrical sockets! :)

Neener! :p

/tosses cheesy poofs :D

[Misfit138]

Man, you guys with your smp. My PIII borgs will never compete. :bang head

[pscout]

I have been rigging up a new managed network switch, vlans etc and it seems to have reset itself today .. fortunately i discovered all my folding rigs stopped within 1-2 hours of it happening.

The only smp task running on each rig was mpiexec ... the 4 cores had all stopped.
Had to ctrl-c all the clients, stop the mpiexec process via task mgr, and all the clients resumed from where they were when they got stopped by the lan disconnect.

I backed up up the first few rigs wu's before stopping the client and killing mpiexec, since some smp terminations will trash the wu's causing them to restart from 0. But after the first several restarted clean, i didn't bother with backups before the recycle of the rest of the clients and killing the mpiexec tasks.

100% success on 13 win smp rigs. :)

... and I was only 5 minutes late for my next meeting :o

But now it seems i had better figure out why this smart switch aint so smart :eek:

[fhanderson]

I just change 3 of my rigs over to Windows SMP.

930D at 3.4G 2G of RAM 2652 22min./frame

650 at 3.4G 1G of RAM 2652 35min/frame

540 at 3.2G 1G of RAM 2652 35min./frame

Are these frame rates OK?
Are they better than running one click for dual?

[Mustanley]

um, you should only be running the smp client on multi cpu or dual/quad core systems. I'm surprised it even works on a single core machine. Good points all things considered

[davekusa]

57 min. a frame for 4 days is the cut off

[jws2346]

Dropped clock down to 3Ghz and SMP is completely stable now. (was at 3.2 before) I'm getting ~19 minute frames now on the p2610.

Hey inkfx, if you're referring to the machine in your sig (E6400) I have a E6400, OC'ed to 2.8 GHz, 1 GB of PC6400 RAM and, in native "nix" SMP, it gets a little more than 13 mins tpf (I'm still not that cool with the ppd thing, I've never done VMWare) Getting less than 19 mins tpf in the WinSMP client doesn't sound all that bad :shrug: , especially if you're using a production machine and need to use windose (or a "gamer"). I was wondering what this E6400 would get using the WinSMP client and 19 mins tpf sounds like it's in the "ballpark":confused: . I installed the WinSMP client on my E6600 (OC'ed very mildly @ 2.7 GHz) and ,if I remember right, it was only about 3 or 4 mins more in WinSMP than native "nix" :D
I thought the F@H instructions were very clear, I had to add a password, DL and install the "dotnet" thing and away it went folding, I don't need to use WinXP all that much so I just run native "nix" on all my machines (plus it's faster in "nix") I might go the WinSMP client on my Athlon 64 X2 4200+ just for the heck of it :p

[pscout]

The 2610 is a heavy cache user so it will take a tpf hit running on 6300/6400's.

The other current win smp wu's should get better TPF's.

My lone 6400 is crunching a 2610 now at ~ 20 min TFP running at 3.2. the x3210 (4 cores 8 MB cache) has one running at 3 ghz tpf = 7:15. and a q6600 @2.9 is also getting 7:15 on its 2610.

I have several 930's runinng win smp ... they range from ~19 - 22 min TPF's running at 4-4.2 ghz ... they have 2x2MB cache so it helps compensate for the less efficient architecture of the presslers vs the c2d's at least on these cache happy wu's.

[jerseytomato]

I just tried running WinSMP on a P4 Prescott and a 2651 WU finished in roughly 2.8 days and 2652 was done in 2.55 days.

[funnyperson1]

On 2652s I seem to be getting around 19-20 minutes at 2.8ghz with my Brisbane, and 29-30 on the T7200 (2ghz C2D Merom) in my laptop.

[jws2346]

:eek: I'm getting about 25 mins tpf with a PD 805 on a p2652 with the WinSMP client My PD 805 is OC'ed to 2.8 GHz. I wish I could get it down to 19 or 20 mins tpf :drool: , I probably could running "native nix", but I have Qwest DSL and only a 4 point router, I have it full with my other folders (I know, break down and get a 8 pointer :rolleyes: ) and I'm presently using the USB connection on the Actiontec modem and I can't get Ubuntu to recognize the connection. I tried 6.04, 6.10, and 7.04, when I get time I'll find the Actiontec Linux driver. I know there's one out there. :eh?:

[funnyperson1]

Update, at 3ghz on the Brisbane this is what I'm getting:

16-17 minutes on the 2652a
22 minutes on the 2651
30-32 minutes on the 2610

[psyshack]

Well I went off and put winsmp on my e6600 and e6400 machines. That was a waste of keystrokes, electricity, and my time.

I had no problems installing the client. It fired right up on both machines. Setup was wax on wax off. No issues.

But it folds like a drunk walks. May fold for a while nice and fast then start staggering. Its the only way I can describe it. It truly is beta. And not worth my carbon foot print to run.

The e6600 like I said fired up with out a hitch. Got a p2651 and went to work on it. Frame times were running in the 12.5 to 13 min. area. Not bad I thought. Ran 25 frames then EUE. No problem. I had a few of those when I went vmsmp. The unit was a virgin first run it looked like. So I let it get another. Ran good untill the 26th frame then went to pot. Would run at 12.5 to 13 min frame times then drop off to 22 min. or 28 min. No errors, just staggers. I went to bed. Woke up to find the e6400 machine had passed the might e6600. :eek: So I left the e6600 staggering a long for a bit longer. I restarted it, farted around with it. Checked for other stuff running. Finally said " screw it " I shut it down and dumped it. This machine is suppose to fold. Not add to globle warming with god awful frame times. :bang head

The e6400 is still chewing away on a p2651. The frame times are running around 14 to 15 mins. With its staggering fits running in the 18 to 22 min. area. But it seems to recover from them better.

Anyway,,, The e6600 is back on vmsmp and turning in frame times of 11.5 to 12 mins. on p2605. No staggering and a better carbon foot print. ( not wasting electricity ) IMO.

I will put the e6400 back on native nix when it finishes the unit its on. If it goes into fits of staggering I will dump the unit and move on.

I don't know why my winsmp installs go into fits of staggering/stalling. Or what ever it is they do. The only error I had was the one EUE. Before I installed I made sure the xp/sp2 install was soild. Had alot of useless service's turned off. Basically trimmed down to fighting weight.

Now the e6400 machine is turning its LCD back on after it goes black. I have it set to turn monitor off after 20 mins. Now it turns off and then turns its self back on.

O-well,,, I don't think this beta should have been released to the public. Its got as many holes in it as swiss cheese. I will revisit it after they have done some work on it.

psy

[Audioaficionado]

VMWare/Gentoo86-64/SMP_FAH are just running so smooth for me that I don't want to chance the Windows SMP client. I might try it out on my Prestonia Xeon duallie eventually if they can make the deadlines @3.3GHz. Otherwise I'm staying pat with VM for now.

[ChasR]

One of the big problems with Win SMP is the loss of checkpoint data on an EUE. THe loss of data causes the client to delete the WU and not send back any results. The Work server is configured to send out the same WU to any machine requesting a WU that failed to return a result on the last WU sent to it. In the end, you'll get the same faulty WU three times before the Work server gives up.

[Mark620]

In the end, you'll get the same faulty WU three times before the Work server gives up.

Only 3 times? I have gotten the same WU on the same machine more than 5 times...
as a mater of fact I got it 3 times and I got a NEW core and then got it 3 more times before I deleted the WU...

See: http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5016926&postcount=1

[nikhsub1]

I stand by my statement that the windoze SMP client is utter dung. :D

[Jon]

I guess I've been relatively lucky... :shrug:

[inkfx]

I guess I've been relatively lucky... :shrug:
The install was painless for me too.

[jws2346]

I stand by my statement that the windoze SMP client is utter dung. :D

Hey nikhsub1, I have nothing but great respect for you being a terrific folder, while the WinSMP client does have it's problems. (I think Stanford is working to improve it) I wouldn't call it ""utter dung". I think it's a great client for those people that have to use windose on their production machines (that can't or don't want to run VMWare), especially when they get it to run as a true service (that doesn't care who's logged on), I have gone back to native "nix"on all but a X2 4200+ I'm waiting now to get a 8 point router to replace my 4 point router and I can't get Ubuntu to recognize the USB side on my DSL modem. I do think you get more points with less hassle using Linux SMP vs WinSMP at the moment. (especially the p2610 WinSMP WU) I have tried the WinSmp client on my E6600 (4 MB) and didn't notice but maybe a 1 or 2 min slowness in tpf, but I did see an appreciable difference in points vs tpf.

[benbaked]

Ouch I just lost another one with this client (78% completed), just now only because I rebooted. Yesterday morning I lost one on my X2 (93% completed) also because I performed a simple reboot. I've always shut down the client cleanly (CTRL-C, I assume that's clean). :shrug: :bang head

The baked will say this, the baked GUARANDAMNTEES that he's not easing off of silent_bob, silent_bob the baked WILL catch you and drag you from room to room of the smackdown hotel until it's checkout time! But first silent_bob, first the baked has a score to settle with the s.M.p., it's time to kick that roody poo windows beta client to the curb... LINUX CLIENT, the baked IS coming for you...

[pscout]

All i can say is look at my points trend since i switched all my win smp clients back to linux just over about 10 days ago - factor out 1 more linux rig ~1000 ppd and some slight stability/overclocking work and the farm is now reliably producing 25+k avg vs 17/18K.

~ 20% improvement, partly due to more efficient client, and the remainder due to no more trashed/wasted wu's.

[ChasR]

Lets amend my post to at least three. One went three times and the others I deleted after the 2nd EUE.