Ahhhh!!! Help Quick!!

[PhoenixMDM]

Alright, about 3 hours ago, i removed the crappy thermal tape that came with my hs/f, and put some quick-dry aquarium Silicone sealant. I'm just barely realizing, what if it stuck too much, and i can never get the hs/f off again?!? And if i can't, does silicone not conduct heat well?!? I really hope it's removable and a good heat gunk...... AHHH!!!!!!!! TELL ME WHAT TO DO, PLEASE!!!

[Kendan]

What are your temps? I would imediately turn the comp. off!!!!
take the HSF off. then get some arctic silver2. Radio shack stuff will work untill it arrives. WOW this is a first!!!

[PhoenixMDM]

my temps.... are core: 50C mobo: 24C

They used to be 54C and 32C...

WTF is going on...?

[PhoenixMDM]

I've been running SETI all this time too! and the case is closed! this is actually turning out for the better, it seems....!

[Oni]

Holy Jesus in a pitta!! What the hell possessed you to do that!? If I were you, I would turn the computer off, disengage the clips from the lugs, and try (very gently) to twist the heatsink off of the processor die. I would then take the processor out and scrape any excess silicone off of the die w/ a VERY sharp razor blade, keeping in mind to apply only gentle pressure, and being very careful around the edges of the die itself. Wipe it down w/ a copious amount of alcohol to try to get it out of the pits that are stamped into the die on production. Then take the same razor blade and scrape all of the silicone off of your heatsink, lap the heatsink w/ some 800 wet/dry sandpaper (to get it all off) and wipe it down w/ some alcohol as well. Then apply a very small amount of some actual thermal paste (like the stuff you can buy at Radioshack) and spread it out w/ a razor blade/creditcard/drivers licence etc. Then put a smallish amount on the heatsink itself and rub it in really good w/ a paper towel, put the processor back in, heat sink back on, clamp it down and fire it up and pray to any kami listening that it will boot.

I think I know why you did it, though. The Radioshack thermal grease is a silicone-based grease, and you prolly though it was just like the aquarium silicone. Nothing wrong in that, but next time, please, don't hesitate to ask. Its always a sad day when a processor dies.

[Kendan]

Wow, I don't know how that stuff will hold up under the heat. the best thing you can do is get some real stuff and put it on. you can wait for more responses but I am sure you will get the same response. It is interesting though.



edit: yea do what oni says!!!

[PhoenixMDM]

Not very quick dry it seems, i effortlessly pulled it off... ROTFL! I just touched the core and it's not even hot! That's weird! Especially considering i shut down and took it out a few secs ago...

Yeah, i heard silicone was in the radioshack stuff, and i heard somewhere that they have CuSil heatsinks that work really good, so i thought "pure silicone must be great then! i'm a genius!!

Then i snapped back into reality:rolleyes: ...

[Kendan]

At least no damage done!!!!! I am sure you will get much better results using the real thing.

[PhoenixMDM]

Yep, learned a good lesson: Silicone and heatsinks don't mix well. The way you all panicked makes me wonder... Am i the only person STUPID enough to do that?! SOMEBODY's gotta have tried this before, lol. I don't wanna be the dumbest person on earth...
Going out tomorrow to get some Arctic Silver. THEN i'll have something that's meant to work! lol!

[Penance]

This seems like a good place to pop my own question:
if i want to yank the thermal pad off my current sink (found out from you guys that they're naughty) I probably should clean it and my core before sticking arctic on there.
-How do I do that? I
Isopropyl (rubbing) alchohol I gather? I just want to make sure.
-What's a good rubbing medium...q-tip, paper towel...?
-Is arctic/radio shack permanent?
I can pull it off later if I want to change sinks, right?

[JetMech]

Be advised that the silicon will never be completely removed from the crevices of either the HSF or the die. NO matter how much cleaning you do. The plus is that your temp seems to have gone down not up so I don't forsee any problems when the AS is applied. It appears that the heat was dramatically being removed from the die and because the fan is blowing toward the board its temp went up. I base this on an experiment I did with my rheostat attached to a swifty. When I turned the fan down my board temp drops and the dies temp rises proportionally (inversly). And vice versa. I can see no other way of explaining the temps you got outside of a software glitch. Let us know what your temps are after AS application. The info that you give implies to me that silicon is an excellent transfer medium.

[JetMech]

Originally posted by Penance
This seems like a good place to pop my own question:
if i want to yank the thermal pad off my current sink (found out from you guys that they're naughty) I probably should clean it and my core before sticking arctic on there.
-How do I do that? I
Isopropyl (rubbing) alchohol I gather? I just want to make sure.
-What's a good rubbing medium...q-tip, paper towel...?
-Is arctic/radio shack permanent?
I can pull it off later if I want to change sinks, right? Yes to the alcohol. Apply with anything that is rough enough to remove the old product but not scratch the heatsink or die. No product designed specifically as a transfer medium is "permanent"; however there are always trace amounts of the previously used product left in the crevices of the metals that cannot be removed except maybe by lapping and I'd be very careful lapping a die.

[RoadWarrior]

Originally posted by PhoenixMDM
[B... Am i the only person STUPID enough to do that?! SOMEBODY's gotta have tried this before, lol. I don't wanna be the dumbest person on earth...
[/B]

Okay, you're not the only one, I know someone who stuck one down with RTV sealant, similar stuff.

Did a bit of a silly myself once. With a raised gold capped Cyrix, I thought glue around the edges and heatsink compound in the middle would be good. It actually ran for 8 months like that, until I took it all apart and found the glue had crept in and displaced most of the heatsink compound, I felt rather silly and lucky at that one.

regards,

Road Warrior