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cobalic
04-11-07, 10:54 PM
Why is it that every freaking 'gaming' laptop is either SLI with a ****ty AMD processor, OR a core 2 duo with some 256 ATI crap? Is there one with SLI 512x2 and core 2 duo? And 17"? Am I asking too much?

Preferably around $3000. I'm not spending any more then that on a laptop.

thideras
04-11-07, 11:14 PM
Why is it that every freaking 'gaming' laptop is either SLI with a ****ty AMD processor, OR a core 2 duo with some 256 ATI crap? Is there one with SLI 512x2 and core 2 duo? And 17"? Am I asking too much?

Preferably around $3000. I'm not spending any more then that on a laptop.
Ok, first off, AMD is not crap. They may not be as good as a Core2Duo, but they are still good. Second off, you don't want Sli in a laptop...lol, your just asking for trouble. I currently have a Toshiba Satellite P100-9612 with a 7900GTX in it, and it has heat issues, I don't even want to know what Sli would be running. Just find one with a very good single card in it. Like I said earlier, you can pick up a Toshiba with a 7900GTX and a Core2Duo, check their site for details.

EDIT: And before you ask, yes, I have worked on a Sli laptop and will never own one. Had really bad battery life and ran really hot. Not worth it IMO, for the same price, you could get a REALLY sweet desktop.

cobalic
04-11-07, 11:19 PM
...maybe I should get a good desktop *and* an ultraportable-super-****ty laptop? lol. Would probably cost the same.

meionm
04-11-07, 11:24 PM
...maybe I should get a good desktop *and* an ultraportable-super-****ty laptop? lol. Would probably cost the same.
You can build desktop for 2K and buy portable 1k laptop.

cobalic
04-11-07, 11:29 PM
aiight. forget the desktops, that's retarded.

question: is there a big difference between t7600 and t7600g? there's a hugeass price difference.

So what i'm thinking is... 15" (the rest would just be too heavy), t7600, 7950gtx, usual crap. Unless i get a coupon on the m1710, forget dell. Anyone else make laptops like this?

meionm
04-11-07, 11:36 PM
[QUOTE=cobalic]

question: is there a big difference between t7600 and t7600g? there's a hugeass price difference.

[QUOTE]
T7600 and T7600g are exact same processor at stock speed. The t7600g can be overclocked.

For m1710 you could try dell outlet

cobalic
04-11-07, 11:44 PM
I'm actually liking the Monstruo-m™S400 (sounds like the menstral-uo... whatever).

2.33 core 2 duo, 7950gtx, 17", 7200rpm HD etc. for $2,893.00

Question is, have you ever heard of this menstral laptop? Sounds weird. Would you trust them with 3 grand?

meionm
04-11-07, 11:52 PM
I'm actually liking the Monstruo-m™S400 (sounds like the menstral-uo... whatever).

2.33 core 2 duo, 7950gtx, 17", 7200rpm HD etc. for $2,893.00

Question is, have you ever heard of this menstral laptop? Sounds weird. Would you trust them with 3 grand?
I peronally, this is the first time I ever heard about them. Someone at notebookforums has one
http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=193820&highlight=Monstruo

cobalic
04-11-07, 11:58 PM
so many weirdass laptop sellers. Ever heard of rjtech.com? You click on a laptop and it has no CPU. Like duh, that's why the price is so low... wtf?

...you sure running SLI on a laptop is gonna burn a hole through my balls? And which is more important, cpu or graphics? (or my balls.)

For example, if you go with an AMD but run SLI...? Better/worse then core 2 duo and 7950gtx?

thideras
04-12-07, 01:04 AM
so many weirdass laptop sellers. Ever heard of rjtech.com? You click on a laptop and it has no CPU. Like duh, that's why the price is so low... wtf?
Those are barebone systems.

At this point, you have thrown every possible good idea out of this thread, I'm leaving. I have explained that Sli laptops are not worth it, better to get a desktop and laptop. I mean, its your money, do what you want, but I'm telling you, it is not worth it to dump 3k+ into a laptop. Want to know why I know this...I've done it, and it was really stupid. Just buy a laptop for 1.5k with a decent graphics card and just dump the rest into a desktop. You will be much happier this way. But again, its your money, do what you want. You have my opinion, your choice what you want to do with it.

EDIT: Don't take this post personally please, I'm not angry.

nebulus06
04-12-07, 01:07 AM
rjtech.com sells whitebooks, they are fairly popular. You can buy the notebook platform individually and purchase the parts separately from say newegg.com or you can customize it on their website with the selected parts they provide.

AMD is better in the notebook sector than it is for desktops. Graphics cards are more important than cpus because you cannot replace your gfx card in the long run. Whereas if you end up being unsatisfied with the cpu you can always buy a new one. Also since your in the market for a high end laptop your unlikely to be getting a poor CPU. Plus you can always balance it out with more memory.

cobalic
04-12-07, 08:51 AM
Don't take this post personally please, I'm not angry.

I actually respect your opinion.

Here's the thing: I'm a student. I want the higher end graphics for (duh) gaming *and* programming/simulation.

Desktop won't work b/c I do a lot of the programming at school - it would suck horribly to have to go back home all the time.

See what I mean? It's not that simple.

OTOH, you are kinda right. If I get a teeny laptop and then a powerful desktop, I can get a bit of both - go to school with mini and do the rest at home with papa. But... argh.

**** it. I'm using the money for a one way trip to cuba. :bang head

Forget cuba.

How's this look:
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E6700 (4MB L2 Cache,2.66GHz,1066 FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
20 inch UltraSharp™ 2007WFP Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
768MB nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX
this is all w/ 3 year accidental damage, keyboard, speakers, mouse, etc.

for $2,374.24

A lot better then any laptop at any price. Then maybe a 13" sony for a grand... no, lenovo. Sonys are friggin expensive.

nvidiaOCmaster
04-12-07, 09:36 AM
... thats... a laptop????? 20"??? jesus it must weigh a ton....

IAmMoen
04-12-07, 09:43 AM
i have a thinkpad x60. Fantastic lappie. Core Duo in it but bad gfx, but it is a 12" that is super light and I can get 7 hours out of the battery. a t60 on the other hand could have both. My cousin has a thinkpad t43 (older t series) and can game on it. If you look for the right one you can even get 1600x1200 res.

On a related note if you used vpn you could actually use your at home comp from your lappie. It would be choppie but your processing power would be vastly better on that desktop computer you listed (especially if you overclock). Your simulations would run much faster. Just a thought.

edit: holy! If that is a laptop you will have to wear a firemans outfit so you dont get burned. And I think it isnt because the proc is listed as an Exxx rather than Txxxx

thideras
04-12-07, 12:27 PM
Ok, I'll say one thing. I'm a college student too, but I have a room, that is where I live and store my desktop. Don't you live somewhere?

Elif Tymes
04-12-07, 12:35 PM
I code on my laptop, game on my desktop. The desktop just provides a better gaming experience (It's really hard to argue with a 32" LCD)

but I would definately suggest building a sick C2D desktop, and nabbing a decent C2Duo Laptop with two gigs of RAM. This would provide you with the processing power you need for your simulations (Assuming they're not OpenGL/D3D simulations)

But generally, Simulations are ran on the processor, simply because a processor is generally more accurate for simulations purposes.

thideras
04-12-07, 12:47 PM
I code on my laptop, game on my desktop. The desktop just provides a better gaming experience (It's really hard to argue with a 32" LCD)

but I would definately suggest building a sick C2D desktop, and nabbing a decent C2Duo Laptop with two gigs of RAM. This would provide you with the processing power you need for your simulations (Assuming they're not OpenGL/D3D simulations)

But generally, Simulations are ran on the processor, simply because a processor is generally more accurate for simulations purposes.

Exactly.

cobalic
04-12-07, 08:36 PM
Ok, I'll say one thing. I'm a college student too, but I have a room, that is where I live and store my desktop. Don't you live somewhere?
no buddy, i'm homeless.

...

i live off campus.

I'm actually leaning towards the PC + laptop idea, but still. I'd be buying two screens, two processors, two everything. seems like a waste.

And cmon, i'm not going to do any real extreme gaming. just hl/css, maybe fear... ok so maybe it is a little graphics intensive. m1710 can handle that tho, can't it?

Besides, with a pc i'd have to steal my neighbors internet or something. That would suck.

and no, i listed the specs of a dell xps desktop something or other. you're right, if that was a laptop the fire department would get involved at some point. not to mention my balls.

Mightyaa
04-13-07, 10:04 AM
The core2duo and sli notebooks are coming out in a couple weeks. Wait another month or two, and the new gpu's based on the 8800 will be in the notebook too. And also, sometime during the next two months, the new intel chipsets get put in.

All of it is sorta rumor, but there's enough evidence to suggest it's true (alienware, etc. are preordering). But, from what I've heard is they are having major issues providing enough power on the sli rigs and the new gpu's failed to pass the ms certification.

Just google around for santa rosa; centrino pro, and a msi sneak peak of a notebook gpu for dx10.

Current offerings are pretty good though... I've got a Killernotebook with a T7400 overclocked to 2.35 GHx and a 7950GTX. It does a 3dMark06 around 5400 and SuperPi in just over 22seconds. But it wasn't cheap.