View Full Version : Best gaming Vcard for $100 ?
Eliminator
12-09-01, 08:27 PM
This is for a friend. All he does is play CS.
I was thinking the v5 5500, but there must better cards.
Can you help a friend of a friend?
Thanks
funnyperson1
12-09-01, 08:44 PM
For 100$ the Geforce2 Pro/Ti is very good as is the Radeon7500 for 110$....personally i would go with the 7500, the performance increase is worth it...
Cisco Kid
12-10-01, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Yobbzz
VOODO0 = no support
My vote would go to the ATI 7500, not because I have one but cause performance is very good and they overclock really well. Price is really good in US as well.
Cisco Kid:)
zappazootus
12-10-01, 11:38 AM
I picked up a Radeon 7000 32meg DDR for $70 last weekend and I am thoroughly impressed. Runs live action footage from Alice and MechWar4 smoothly with extreamly high texture. Around 65-80 bucks seems to be a good sweetspot for cards unless you go for $110 or more.:cool:
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 12:04 PM
People have found Ti200's for $60...
dolemitecomputer
12-10-01, 02:00 PM
I would recommend the Hercules Kyro 2 4500 card. Decent driver support ,although not as good as Nvidia, but has better performance than the MX card. Uses tile rendering and bump mapping with a cool blue circuit board. Can be bought for around 70 if you buy OEM.
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 02:05 PM
Ti200!!!
Kryo's aren't better than all Mx's, they use a diff rendering system, NviDia and Ati render the whol level, even things u don't see this takes more memory banwidth, however the Kryo onlt renders things you see using a lot less power so even though its much slower than an MX it can compete with it quite easily.
LOOK for a Ti200!!!!! G...E...F...O...R...C...E...3...!!!!
Well you missed the black friday deal for a great g3 ti200 by only a few weeks! the V5 is a very nice bargain video card. depends on which games you like to play and it will be gone soon as newer games are having problems with them.
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by nick_cw
Ti200!!!
Kryo's aren't better than all Mx's, they use a diff rendering system, NviDia and Ati render the whol level, even things u don't see this takes more memory banwidth, however the Kryo onlt renders things you see using a lot less power so even though its much slower than an MX it can compete with it quite easily.
LOOK for a Ti200!!!!! G...E...F...O...R...C...E...3...!!!!
actually Kyros whoop al mxes in most everything....but where can you find a TI200 for 60 bucks, if it is its probably a Geforce 2TI.....cheapest ive seen GF3 Tis are 100$ and that was a special at bestbuy...if you go to pricewatch theyyer about 160$....
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 02:15 PM
Yes its slower BUT IT CAN BEAT EM CAUSE OF THE RENDERING SYSTEM!
Someone got a GEFORCE 3333333333 yes 3!!!! For $60 one off spot of a lifetime!!!! But still a ti200 is easily the best card for $100!!!!
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by nick_cw
Yes its slower BUT IT CAN BEAT EM CAUSE OF THE RENDERING SYSTEM!
Someone got a GEFORCE 3333333333 yes 3!!!! For $60 one off spot of a lifetime!!!! But still a ti200 is easily the best card for $100!!!!
only in 3dmark, in real games the mx hasnt a chance......also you cant find a Ti200 for 100$, that was just luck at Best BUy....
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 02:55 PM
A lot of poeple have seen em for $100 try www.pricewatch.com
And the MX does beat the Kryo's a lot of the time in games, unless I'm talkin about a diff one!!! ANyways MX's are dated so It wouldn't suprise me!
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 03:21 PM
nope, just checked, cheapest is 150$....Geforce2 TI is 100$
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 03:39 PM
You have to look harder!!!! Quite a few people have got em for hat!
Lucky in the UK there $300 minimum!
Originally posted by funnyperson1
only in 3dmark, in real games the mx hasnt a chance......also you cant find a Ti200 for 100$, that was just luck at Best BUy....
DEAL WH0RING is a skill not luck!
Maximus Nickus
12-10-01, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by el
DEAL WH0RING is a skill not luck!
Amen!
The overclockers bible / guide to findin cheap hardware......
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by el
DEAL WH0RING is a skill not luck!
lol...still the only reason people got Ti200s for 100$ is because of Thanksgiving...i dont think youll see that price for a long time....
I'd go with the ATI Radeon 7500, although a Visiontek Xctasy Ti200 is also a very good overclocking card, believe it go to 550 Mem and something core very easily.
Eliminator
12-10-01, 11:57 PM
What about driver support for the 7500?
I have an 8500 and grant it, the graphics are great playing CS and RCW, but I still get lock-ups and weird visual effects that should not be going on. If the support is just as bad for the 7500, I would not recommend buying an ATI card.
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 11:59 PM
The 7500 is the same chipset as the older radeons and as such the driver support is very good....just as good as nvidias if you look over the fact that there is only 2-3 drivers to choose from as opposed to 300.....i dont know many people that have had problems with the oriiginal radeon...
Eliminator
12-11-01, 09:32 AM
Thanks for everyone's help.
I think I'll tell my friend to get the 7500.
Cisco Kid
12-11-01, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by nick_cw
Ti200!!!
Kryo's aren't better than all Mx's, they use a diff rendering system, NviDia and Ati render the whol level, even things u don't see this takes more memory banwidth, however the Kryo onlt renders things you see using a lot less power so even though its much slower than an MX it can compete with it quite easily.
LOOK for a Ti200!!!!! G...E...F...O...R...C...E...3...!!!!
NickW - He is looking for a card under $100 not over $160 hahaha
G3 Ti200 can not be had for under $100 besides the Best Buy deal that was on for 1 day.
Cisco Kid:cool:
Cisco Kid
12-11-01, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by nick_cw
You have to look harder!!!! Quite a few people have got em for hat!
Lucky in the UK there $300 minimum!
Nickcw you can NOT fina a G3Ti200 for $100 I do not care what you think . You CAN buy a G2 for $100 but it is still slower than a 7500..
Best bet is 7500 or a 32 DDR Radeon for like $65
The only people who got a G3 Ti200 for $100US got it at bestbuy on a 1 day sale
Cisco Kid:cool:
Ohh hey are you on GLUE?? LOL
Maximus Nickus
12-11-01, 11:38 AM
Someone got theres for $60 from Australia, Its very unlikely but IT HAS HAPPENED!!!
Anyways there over $300 here, no not glue Pot:beer:
Did I say that....
Where are you people finding GF3Ti200's for $100??
funnyperson1
12-11-01, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Torch
Where are you people finding GF3Ti200's for $100??
There was a 5 hour thanksgiving sale at Best Buy were luck y overclockers across the country got Ti200s for 100$....not common....
Eliminator
12-11-01, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Torch
Where are you people finding GF3Ti200's for $100??
It's looooooong gone.
Thanks to someone, it was brought up again.
/me looks at nick
I wasn't looking for a needle-in-the-haystack deal of the century.
Just general info on a truely $100 card, no deals or rebates.
Thanks again for the info.
Maximus Nickus
12-12-01, 05:54 AM
For $100 you will get a g2Titanium (faster than an Ultra) however the extra $50 might be worth it for a g3!!!
If you can't though then a 7500 or a G2Ti is your best bet, I'd read some reviews first though to see which meets yours/his requirements.
Quality/Speed etc.
Good Luck and sorry if I led you to believe that Ti200's were $100!!!!
funnyperson1
12-12-01, 04:30 PM
sorry nick but Tis get whooped by Ultras...
Sublyme
12-12-01, 09:46 PM
32mb inno3d geforce 2 mx works great for me :)
I picked mine up for $60 at www.ocie.com , although I think it's as cheap as like $30 now
Cisco Kid
12-12-01, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by nick_cw
For $100 you will get a g2Titanium (faster than an Ultra) however the extra $50 might be worth it for a g3!!!
If you can't though then a 7500 or a G2Ti is your best bet, I'd read some reviews first though to see which meets yours/his requirements.
Quality/Speed etc.
Good Luck and sorry if I led you to believe that Ti200's were $100!!!!
Nickcw sorry to tell ya but you are wrong. G2 Ti200 's are slower than Ultras and a 7500 will beat the Ultra Geforce 2 cards. Check the recent post of 3D Mark2K1 score by Ultra owners, with their cards overclocked.
My system is similar to may of the posted ones even slower as far as cpu scores go and my 7500 posted a higher score.
Best bet is a 7500 for reasonably cheap price, $100US can buy em it is a far better buy than a G2 Ti200, way newer technolgy.
Yes it does not support all DX8 features but it does support a few and the card is very overclockable.
Next up the rung would be Ti200, G3 Ti500 and 8500 all for more $$$$.
Cisco Kid:cool:
Maximus Nickus
12-13-01, 05:06 AM
I read somewhere that the Ultra's were souped up and renamed to G2 Titaniums to match the g3 line...
Oh well:beer:
hkgonra
12-15-01, 08:27 PM
How does the Radeon perform on Quake 3 ? That is about the only "high-end" video game I and most of my friends/family play. Other than that it is mostly kiddy stuff that has min sys req of like p133 16mb of ram.
funnyperson1
12-15-01, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by hkgonra
How does the Radeon perform on Quake 3 ? That is about the only "high-end" video game I and most of my friends/family play. Other than that it is mostly kiddy stuff that has min sys req of like p133 16mb of ram.
lets put it this way, when you play QuakeIII on a 7500 the monitor is the bottleneck (unless you turn off vsync).....
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