View Full Version : Best Tualatin motherboard?
im thinking of buying a new motherboard and a 1.2ghz celeron. cuz ive head the powerleap adapter sux.
so whats the best Tualatin mobo for overclocking?
er... oops, wrong area.
someone move to intel motherboards plz :)
funnyperson1
12-09-01, 09:52 PM
best mobo=Abit ST6 or Gigabyt something or other that ends in T
the ST6 has been tested out by our very own old man, and he has found it very nice
stay away from TUSL2, no 1/4 pci divider under 133fsb makes for hard running on your pci cards (and printers:mad: )
the Gigabyte board has a Turbo PLL which allows you to set PCI and other buses at anything you want to...
ol' man
12-09-01, 11:51 PM
Yeah funny person you are seeing the importence of those dividers huh? It is nice when your chip cannot do the full 134MHz fsb. If your chip can for sure do it the BD133u and the TUSL2 would not be that bad but with retail you never know what you are going to get. Some get the phillipine monster and some get the malay dud. If you go OEM it seems your chance of getting th e Phillipine chip is increased so far 100%:D Hopefully I can get my .13u tualatin restored and put it into the Gigabyte GA-60EXT-C which as funnyperson has mentioned has I guess the turbo pLL. Should be a smoker at 170+ Mhz fsb and PCI in spec.
Celemine1Gig
12-10-01, 07:27 AM
Hi,
I don't think that the Gigabyte board has a turbo-PLL, but just a clock generator that is able to produce a 1/5, 1/6 PCI divider. I know that there are some ICS clock generators that can do something like that, but the mobo manufacturers just don't let you choose these dividers in bios.
Regards
Ingo
Update: The clock generator I'm referring to is the ICS 9250-30 which can produce a PCI clock of 33 MHz @ 200 MHz FSB!!! Impressive, huh???
where can i find that Gigabyte board? it doesnt seem to be on pricewatch.
ill get that one and an oem celeron 1.2. and maybe get a swiftech to put on it :)
ol' man
12-10-01, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Celemine1Gig
Hi,
I don't think that the Gigabyte board has a turbo-PLL, but just a clock generator that is able to produce a 1/5, 1/6 PCI divider. I know that there are some ICS clock generators that can do something like that, but the mobo manufacturers just don't let you choose these dividers in bios.
Regards
Ingo
Update: The clock generator I'm referring to is the ICS 9250-30 which can produce a PCI clock of 33 MHz @ 200 MHz FSB!!! Impressive, huh???
Yeah what ever man. Don't talk about stuff you have not researched.
Check this thread.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=277588&pagenumber=1
Get some schooling!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From the thread, post by fluid
I've got a Gigabyte GA-60XET with a very hard to get bios that was on their website for about two days and was suddenly, strangely removed. The thing about this bios is that it allows me to select the 'base' clock speed for the PLL pci/agp bus and the bios selects the best dividers to keep the speeds as close as possible to 33/66 mhz.
Example:
In my bios under pci/agp divider at 150 mhz FSB I have the following options:
pll/16 - 27/54 (pci/agp)
pll/20 - 22/44
pll/24 - 18/36
pll/32 - 13/26
pll/40 - 11/22
disabled - 36/72....
So as you can see I can always keep my pci / agp busses in spec no matter what my FSB speed....The only thing keeping me from going bezerk is the maximum speed my ram can handle....And I can always drop that to 100 mhz....
In fact....From what I can tell I can select the pci/agp speed just like selecting my ram speed....Although it's even more flexible than that! Don't ask me how Gigabyte did it but I can ASSURE you that they have....Although, as mentioned before, they only kept the bios on the site for a few days and then removed it - probably due to the fact that it allows you to effectively run your processor at any FSB speed you like and still keep your pci/agp devices in spec....I have experienced no problems whatsoever with this bios....
....I have also backed it up to disk!
This board also gives me 'full' voltage control no matter (coppermine / tualatin) what the chip! Between the ranges of 1.050 - 1.825 volts in .25volt increments and also allows for voltage adjustment of the AGP slot between the ranges of 1.6 - 1.8 volts as well as adjustment of the DIMM slots between the ranges of 3.4 - 3.6 volts....
It also maintains CAS 2 and AGP 4X no matter what the FSB speed....And the FSB goes to a max of 200 mhz!
The board is also a cool blue colour and is totally stable....Also has duel bios as standard!
As far as i'm concerned you can keep your ASUS and your A-Bit boards....Because Gigabyte XET's are the board of choice! No need to be envious of the people with the unlocked chips anymore!
Gigabyte board sounds sweet the way how it has the PCI/AGP bus settings so you obviously won't be running too low of a spec and too high.
Although the ST6 should be good as well.
ol' man
12-10-01, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by tsunami
Gigabyte board sounds sweet the way how it has the PCI/AGP bus settings so you obviously won't be running too low of a spec and too high.
Although the ST6 should be good as well.
Yeah it sounds like it depends on where you are at. If you are at like 125~132fsb the ST6 would keep you in posec a little better but still the GB board would not be bad.
funnyperson1
12-10-01, 11:46 PM
can you imagine, my oc is held back by a printer:eek: a ******** printer.....dang....its really weird...my P3v4x has no 1/4 divider i had a Linksys 10T card, worked fine at 126fsb, ran at that speed for a month or two.....have an HP Deskjet 540 runs at 126 as well, no probs....my dad had a Linksys 10/100 card and it doesnt work at 120fsb? swap for a Kingston, works fine at 126, then his HP Deskjet 550 doesnt work at above 126, ol man is right something screwy bout the TUSL2.....
ol' man
12-11-01, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by funnyperson1
can you imagine, my oc is held back by a printer:eek: a ******** printer.....dang....its really weird...my P3v4x has no 1/4 divider i had a Linksys 10T card, worked fine at 126fsb, ran at that speed for a month or two.....have an HP Deskjet 540 runs at 126 as well, no probs....my dad had a Linksys 10/100 card and it doesnt work at 120fsb? swap for a Kingston, works fine at 126, then his HP Deskjet 550 doesnt work at above 126, ol man is right something screwy bout the TUSL2.....
Don't fret it man. They should have some of them 1.0 and 1.1GHz celeries out soon in the .13u flavor and then we will see some nice OC's. You may be able to pick one of them up cheap. Slap it in your BD133u. If the BD133u still won;t take it then maybe get IWILL to give ya a new one. One could probably do 1466MHz on default vcore and decent low temps while at 133fsb. This would be with the 1.1GHz .13u celery. Should be like only $80 too. The 1GHz variant should do the 150fsb for mega mem scores and would probably be better in your "GAMES" you like so much.
Rabalder
12-11-01, 06:36 AM
I like my Abit VH6T v1.1 90$ only 0.1v adjust by BIOS so a vid mod is required to get hardcore oc :)
ol' man
12-11-01, 11:56 AM
Main:: Tully Maly v34 1.2GHz@1.6Ghz 1.675v, Alpha 6030 80mm fan 30ēc
(1.650Ghz@1.775v 35ēc)
For some reason those temps seem really good. Is this what it says in the bios upon boot. Yesterday for some reason my mobo monitor went wacko and was reporting load temps for my machine at 19 deg. C. I was like sweet:D I then rebooted and checked the bios and it was not that low:D I knew that but I had to check you know. Something was off. You got a 7000rpm 80mm on that pal or what and ambient at 17 deg. C in the room? What is your ambient and what is the speed of your fan?
where can i find the Gigabyte board?
i ran a search for GA-6OXET on pricewatch but no results :(
never mind, i found a place :burn:
wtf? this board only supports 512mb of ram total? :(
is that true or is it just 512mb each slot?
ol' man
12-11-01, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by BigRed
wtf? this board only supports 512mb of ram total? :(
is that true or is it just 512mb each slot?
Well that is all any 815e/ep board will take. What are you doing with all that ram?
Yeah the total ram a i815E/EP/EPT is 512Mb because that what theat chiset can support...
It's not in each slot...Is the total!!! But i don't think you need more than that!!!
well i have several uses for ramdrives (200+ mb)
various programs that require fast access to a ton of info (what the ramdrives are for)
and i do a lot of divx encoding, a lot of ram helps that
Rabalder
12-11-01, 02:48 PM
ol´man...
Jupp, BIOS says the same, the 80mm CPU fanspeed is "4500rpm" I think!? My ambient at 17-19ēc.
The Abit VH6T supports 1.5GBM Ram...
http://hem.fyristorg.com/staby/pc_bild/oc/Mbm_1.66GHz.gif
ol' man
12-11-01, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Rabalder
ol´man...
Jupp, BIOS says the same, the 80mm CPU fanspeed is "4500rpm" I think!? My ambient at 17-19ēc.
The Abit VH6T supports 1.5GBM Ram...
http://hem.fyristorg.com/staby/pc_bild/oc/Mbm_1.66GHz.gif
Well I suppose then if your ambient is 17-19 deg. C. I would be freezing:D Mine is about 25 deg.C. You should always tell people your ambient temps cause that is way low if ambient was around normal 72~75 deg.C.
funnyperson1
12-11-01, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by ol' man
Don't fret it man. They should have some of them 1.0 and 1.1GHz celeries out soon in the .13u flavor and then we will see some nice OC's. You may be able to pick one of them up cheap. Slap it in your BD133u. If the BD133u still won;t take it then maybe get IWILL to give ya a new one. One could probably do 1466MHz on default vcore and decent low temps while at 133fsb. This would be with the 1.1GHz .13u celery. Should be like only $80 too. The 1GHz variant should do the 150fsb for mega mem scores and would probably be better in your "GAMES" you like so much.
im actually thinking of getting a PIII 1.13 Tualatin because if i can get it up to 166bus then my performance in game s(which is what i do most) would be pretty darn close to an Atherlon 1.4.....that comparison between an XP 1600+ and the Celly@1.6 really disheartened me :(....
the BD133U does have 1/5 dividers right?
is there a tualatin motherboard that supports more than 512mb of ram and is good for overclocking?
cuz if i upgrade i wanna keep all my ram
Originally posted by BigRed
is there a tualatin motherboard that supports more than 512mb of ram and is good for overclocking?
cuz if i upgrade i wanna keep all my ram
I know mine can take up to 1.5GB of RAM (3X 512MB RAM).
ol' man
12-11-01, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by funnyperson1
im actually thinking of getting a PIII 1.13 Tualatin because if i can get it up to 166bus then my performance in game s(which is what i do most) would be pretty darn close to an Atherlon 1.4.....that comparison between an XP 1600+ and the Celly@1.6 really disheartened me :(....
the BD133U does have 1/5 dividers right?
You think just cause 3dmark says that it will be slower it will matter alot for all 3D games? I think some games are different and I don't think any one 3d bench is sufficient enough. Multimedia in sandra brings them pretty close to the same. The one who wrote this also never said if he ran the meory at cas2 or 3 for the celery. I know when the program mandel is used to bench 2D graphics which still incorperates some into 3D it blows the athlons away. What it does is magnify fractals which one way or another is about what is going on in alot of 3D gaming activities when you are going down halls and such. I wouldn;t just call one review the gospel.
No the BD133u does not have 1/5 dividers.
funnyperson1
12-12-01, 04:40 PM
bandwith does maek a huge difference, i still like the idea of getting a PIII Tualatin up to 160-166 bus,....tht would cursh mot athlons...
How about this board? It's cheap and performs better than intel-815 (??)
694T Pro (http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/Motherboards/msi694tpro(4).htm)
But one of my friend told that the mem scores are awful
funnyperson1
12-12-01, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by nucro
How about this board? It's cheap and performs better than intel-815 (??)
694T Pro (http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/Motherboards/msi694tpro(4).htm)
But one of my friend told that the mem scores are awful
i have a 694X bnased board and the me scores were awful...you need to download a special proggy from viahardware.com that enables 4 way interleaving in the ram, now at cas2 im only 30mb/s behind the famed bx....
Originally posted by nucro
How about this board? It's cheap and performs better than intel-815 (??)
694T Pro
But one of my friend told that the mem scores are awful
is this board as good as the abit and the gigabyte? i know they are on seperate chipsets but is this one as good as the others?
vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.