twas the night before last...

[pik4chu]

Twas the night before last
and only a few people were stirring
but I dont think it will last.
With katlin in her sweats and me with no hat
had just settled down for a nice drunken nap.
When at the front door there arose such a clatter
I stumbled from bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the front I stumbled across the floor
I clicked open the lock and ripped open the door.
The moon shown the newly fallen slush
all gave me quite a good rush.
I stared down at my feet and what did I see,
but piles of brown boxes, filled with goodies just for me.

Fold on my brothers and sisters :D

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/pik4chu/justforme.jpg

lets see what we can do...

[benbaked]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

[ihrsetrdr]

Oooh, nice! Tax refund check? Promotion at work? Powerball win? ;)

[Macaholic]

Oooh, nice! Tax refund check? Promotion at work? Powerball win? ;)

FedEx/UPS driver have a 3 Martini lunch? :p

[Evilsizer]

Dont make us beat you with a stick!! What are the parts besides the giga-965p-s3's!! =P

[WarriorII]

Very Nice indeed.

:thup:

Now you can really start Folding !!!!

:attn:

[Adak]

So? So? So?

What's the memory and what's an "EA-380" (the boxes on the far left of the photo)?

I'm trying to hold back Evilsizer, but he's got a Texas-sized stick, so HURRY UP!!

:burn: :burn:

Adak

[pik4chu]

FedEx/UPS driver have a 3 Martini lunch? :p
It was part of the 'delivery cost' :)

Stats

2 E4300s
1 E6320 (want to see what it can do if I like it i may order another next month)
3 Antec EA380 PSUs
3 20gig IDE hard drives (from classifieds)
memory is an optical illusion, it was 6 sticks of supertalent DDR 5300s which is what is pictured. however with the eggs recent price cuts on ram I have RMAd them and ordered 3 sets of this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820211064 sadly I was too late int eh day to get rush processing and ups 2nd day wont get here till monday, so currently they will be setup with some junk DDR2 I snagged from an upgrade at work.

They are being mounted to 1/4" thick sheets of smoked poly and will then be put into a small cabinet thing which is yet to be determined. and will likely be ordering the new SI-120 for the 6320 if it looks like it can handle much more OC with some added cooling.

After some finicky things with the keyboard (didnt like booting w/ usb for some reason) Im installing winblows on the first one. the other two will become ubuntu 6.10s if I can make things work.

[pik4chu]

Oooh, nice! Tax refund check? Promotion at work? Powerball win? ;)
bonus from work + all sales from my clasifieds here. Sold off 4 older amd rigs and misc bits.

As I go I will eventually replace the HTs with C2Ds as well depending on which chip I like. maybe even go quad :)

[davekusa]

Let us know how that E6320 OC's.

[Evilsizer]

pik imo the sweet spot is going to be a E4400 or E6700 with 333fsb using a 2:3 ratio.. as it looks like i shaved about 1 min off my time. went from 334fsb using 4:5 ratio to 2:3 ratio using the same fsb.

[pik4chu]

pik imo the sweet spot is going to be a E4400 or E6700 with 333fsb using a 2:3 ratio.. as it looks like i shaved about 1 min off my time. went from 334fsb using 4:5 ratio to 2:3 ratio using the same fsb.
hmmm will look into that, maybe do an RMA for one 4300 and get a 4400 before I open it.. I am anxious to see what the 6320 can do though.

Sadly there is no hope for OC with the RAM I have now but its enough to get windows running.

[jws2346]

Holy smoke pik4chu :eek: That's one impressive array of gear :drool:

[dfonda]

Oh my Gosh its the motherload:drool:http://www.diegotorres.com.ar/mensajeitor/foro/caritas/cc12.gif

Also holy Cow Evilsizer what did they do to your stars there all like white and stuff.:eek: Its hideous!

Conrats on the upgrade evil!:beer:

[pik4chu]

Hmm well trying to install smp client and when I run install.bet it says 'system cannot run the file specified' or something similar 3 times then ends. If I try to do mpiexec -register it says there was a problem and was likely not installed correctly. I kept trying things with no luck so Im just reinstalling windoze, very wierd.

PS- davekusa are you doing any cooling for the NB/SB? even just idling in setup both heatsinks are getting ripping hot did you do anything special to keep them cool?

[LandShark]

Hmm well trying to install smp client and when I run install.bet it says 'system cannot run the file specified' or something similar 3 times then ends. If I try to do mpiexec -register it says there was a problem and was likely not installed correctly. I kept trying things with no luck so Im just reinstalling windoze, very wierd.
make sure you have .net 2.0 installed and the user has a password!

VERY nice folding powah you've got there (hopefully with more to come!!)!! :beer:

p.s. how's those adata sticks go?? are they good or just cheap average ram?? I'm looking for some memory too.....

[Evilsizer]

imo ram to get for a folding rig min is the gskill 2gpk-ddr2-800 sticks for $129

[pik4chu]

make sure you have .net 2.0 installed and the user has a password!

VERY nice folding powah you've got there (hopefully with more to come!!)!! :beer:

p.s. how's those adata sticks go?? are they good or just cheap average ram?? I'm looking for some memory too.....
sadly wont know till monday which is when they get delivered. I got them because they were ddr 800 and only a few bucks more per set than the 667 I had gotten originaly. While they probably wont be enough to find the max oc of the e6320 they should certainly help reaching a decent one for a folding rig.

And ahhh the .net 2.0 is the problem now that I think about it. I forgot my xp sp2 disc is a bit old hehe. Oh well, reinstall is almost done anyways :)

[pik4chu]

imo ram to get for a folding rig min is the gskill 2gpk-ddr2-800 sticks for $129
except the ADATA's were half that cost. the price difference for 3 sets of that gskill would = another cpu.

Now gskill is indeed excellent RAM though, using a set in my main rig and loving it. need to figure out how to change the ratio though so I can push the ram a bit further though :)

[Mark620]

Holy Motherload.....

[pik4chu]

lol looks like im a member of the coretemp feature club, when I launch coretemp the comp reboots, hard :)

however the first e4300 is crunching away on a 2610. did do a mild OC though to test things out. running 250x8 with 3:4. still learning this BIOS some too and I gotta say it is an excellent board :thup:

[Evilsizer]

now crank it to 3ghz!

[sno.lcn]

remember, to get these to run correctly username must = T32monkeys :beer:


lol looks like im a member of the coretemp feature club, when I launch coretemp the comp reboots, hard :)

That was happening to me so I started using TAT and the crashing problem stopped :)

[pik4chu]

remember, to get these to run correctly username must = T32monkeys :beer:



That was happening to me so I started using TAT and the crashing problem stopped :)
using version .94 works just fine. and according to it the cores are @~44C

E4300 is now @270*9, im surprised the RAM is doing this well considering it is 533 native. Going to give it a few frames now to see what kind of times it is getting. After I get this guy to a point Im happy with Im going to fire up the 6320. I wonder if I can use my thermalright Ultra-90 on it.. hmmmm

[Evilsizer]

using version .94 works just fine. and according to it the cores are @~44C

E4300 is now @270*9, im surprised the RAM is doing this well considering it is 533 native. Going to give it a few frames now to see what kind of times it is getting. After I get this guy to a point Im happy with Im going to fire up the 6320. I wonder if I can use my thermalright Ultra-90 on it.. hmmmm
.94 has been proven to be 10-15c lower readings then tat or CT .95, when .95 works.

[pik4chu]

.94 has been proven to be 10-15c lower readings then tat or CT .95, when .95 works.
well when I booted into the BIOS it showed about the same temps but either way the mobo won't lie, I set the thermal shutdown for 60C in the BIOS before I started changing anything. That being said the cpu hsf still feels very cool to the touch.

well 2610 is certainly taking some time do a frame :( just finished it's first one @ just under 25min, orz

[Evilsizer]

well when I booted into the BIOS it showed about the same temps but either way the mobo won't lie, I set the thermal shutdown for 60C in the BIOS before I started changing anything. That being said the cpu hsf still feels very cool to the touch.

well 2610 is certainly taking some time do a frame :( just finished it's first one @ just under 25min, orz
is that the project, 2610 or the oced speed?

well my rig#2 is on a 2417 project @16.46 min/f, rig#3 is doing 2415 @33.1 min/f.

also remember though the bios/speed fan reading are of IHS temps, CT/tat are Die temps.

[pik4chu]

:mad: fired up another board to have a whirl at the 6320 and it looks like the cpu fan header is dead, that really irks me :mad::mad:

and 2610 is the project, the core speed is 2400 right now

[dfonda]

The 2610 isn't listed yet as far as I can see. http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
Whats it worth?

[pik4chu]

dunno I didnt check since I was only concerned about the tpf. Also I removed the video card to start on the next one so I cant check for now lol. I will check things in the morning to see how it progresses and hopefuly get atleast the 2nd mobo up and running.

[pscout]

pik... i too am trying out a 6320 on a ds3 i got for a new quad ... couldn't wait for the quad so i picked up a 6320 to see how they go.

I am still closing in on an oc but it looks like it will be ~ 450 fsb ... at least with orthos. I will let it work on a test 2610 overnight and put it to work in linux tommorrow if stable.

Temps are not bad at 48C with an AF7. I have kept it below 1.4 V so far but with the vdroop on this mobo and temps still being ok i might give it some more V. Folding a 2610 is it using ~ 120W atm.

[pik4chu]

pik... i too am trying out a 6320 on a ds3 i got for a new quad ... couldn't wait so i picked up a 6320 to see how they go.

I am still closing in on an oc but it looks like it will be ~ 450 fsb ... at least with orthos. I will let it work on a test 2610 overnight and put it to work in linux tommorrow if stable.

Temps are not bad at 48C with an AF7. I have kept it below 1.4 V so far but with the vdroop on this mobo and temps still being ok i might give it some more V.
What RAM did you pair with the 6320?

[cw823]

The 2610 isn't listed yet as far as I can see. http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html
Whats it worth?

1523 I think.

[cw823]

imo ram to get for a folding rig min is the gskill 2gpk-ddr2-800 sticks for $129

Isn't 2Gb overkill for a dedicated FAH rig?

[Evilsizer]

Isn't 2Gb overkill for a dedicated FAH rig?
prolly but you can never have to much ram ... besides what if you pick up a mobo for quads only for when you go buy a cheap quad ram is thru the roof on prices.

[cw823]

prolly but you can never have to much ram ... besides what if you pick up a mobo for quads only for when you go buy a cheap quad ram is thru the roof on prices.

True.....but my wallet lives more in the present. :)

[Evilsizer]

True.....but my wallet lives more in the present. :)
man 129 for a good set of ddr2-800 is hard to pass up. esp when you look at single one gig sticks for just 59 and thats the crap kind.

[pik4chu]

:mad: fired up another board to have a whirl at the 6320 and it looks like the cpu fan header is dead, that really irks me :mad::mad:

and 2610 is the project, the core speed is 2400 right now
for an amusing and positive update the fan headers were not messed up after all, lol! It turns out that the proc was running so cool the fan didnt need to spin so all is well. But hmm I didnt think the 6320 used a 7 multi, something squirly be going on here I tihnk.. o.O

And yes 129 for a great 2gig kit is indeed an excellent price but it is still a high investment to be made at this time and I still dont expect to need more than a gig on a quad anyways with a little tweaking I can get windows itself to sub 70MB of memory usage with 90MB per fore on the SMP client 2x that is still a decent amount less than 1gig. Now if/when I upgrade my work PC RAM like that would indeed be justified. And the a-data is not 'crap' it is actually very decent value RAM and if I could have gotten a 2*512 kit of gskills or corsairs for cheap then I would have.

However if I really want to push this 6320 I may have to get some higher quality RAM but we get back to the cost per layer per ppd thing again. If it is possible to get a decent enough OC to boost tpf a considerable amount by spending even 2x more on the RAM then it could be worth it. But until we know how high these 6320s can really go we can't say for sure. On that note pscout what do you think is limiting you now @450FSB? it doesn't seem to be cooling.

[Evilsizer]

for an amusing and positive update the fan headers were not messed up after all, lol! It turns out that the proc was running so cool the fan didnt need to spin so all is well. But hmm I didnt think the 6320 used a 7 multi, something squirly be going on here I tihnk.. o.O
6320=6300=7xmulti
6420=6400=8xmulti

[cw823]

for an amusing and positive update the fan headers were not messed up after all, lol! It turns out that the proc was running so cool the fan didnt need to spin so all is well. But hmm I didnt think the 6320 used a 7 multi, something squirly be going on here I tihnk.. o.O

266*7.....1.860 every time. ;)

[pik4chu]

266*7.....1.860 every time. ;)
lol the boards are messing with my head, or maybe CPU-Z is. on the 4300 it says 9x divider @ 3:4 but ont he 6320 cpuz says 7x divider with ram @ 1:1 but I never set the ratio on either one... o.O

jumped the 6320 to 275*9 and still trying to figure out how the ratio setting on this mobo works.

[Evilsizer]

lol the boards are messing with my head, or maybe CPU-Z is. on the 4300 it says 9x divider @ 3:4 but ont he 6320 cpuz says 7x divider with ram @ 1:1 but I never set the ratio on either one... o.O

jumped the 6320 to 275*9 and still trying to figure out how the ratio setting on this mobo works.
the giga boards use multis for ram... so (2x)266=533 and so on...dont forget about the CLT+F1 for the other options.

[pik4chu]

the giga boards use multis for ram... so (2x)266=533 and so on...dont forget about the CLT+F1 for the other options.
ah so the ratio changes automatically to reflect the combination of processor speed vs fsb depending on what I set for the host clock frequency? If I understand this right it will make wrapping my brain about it much easier.

Well first results are in and the 6320 is @~18tpf for the 2610 as well definately looking at some good potential for ppd if it runs that fast with basically no OC. hmmm, going to give it another frame and crank it up a notch.

[Evilsizer]

ah so the ratio changes automatically to reflect the combination of processor speed vs fsb depending on what I set for the host clock frequency? If I understand this right it will make wrapping my brain about it much easier.
no there is a seperate multi just for the ram... not the same as the multi for the cpu on the giga boards.... the 2x =533 divider , 2.5x=667 , 3x = 800 , 4x = 1066

mem dividers are under this screen
http://www.gskillusa.com/motherboard/ds3/ds3_2gbnq_00.jpg
ss from this thread.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113994

[pik4chu]

ahhhhhh I think I get it now. thank ye :) Will poke around with the 6320 some more in a min.

[davekusa]

Project 2610: 1523 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2651: 1760 points, deadline 4 days
Project 2652: 1148 points, deadline 3 days

[cw823]

lol the boards are messing with my head, or maybe CPU-Z is. on the 4300 it says 9x divider @ 3:4 but ont he 6320 cpuz says 7x divider with ram @ 1:1 but I never set the ratio on either one... o.O

jumped the 6320 to 275*9 and still trying to figure out how the ratio setting on this mobo works.

4300 is an 800FSB (200mhz) chip, 6300/6320 is a 1066FSB (266mhz) chip. Thus the different multi's.

N00b. :D :D

[pscout]

You have been busy this am :)

Now that i am up to 4 ds3's i tioo am getting more familiar with the bios.

To answer an earlier question about why do i have a 2 gb kit, well it is really for me to use on whatever rig i takeover as my main rig when i retire my current p4 ht rig. It's p/n is OCZP8001G ... advertised timing are 4-5-4-15. The rev 2 stuff costs a bit more and rated at 4-4-4-15.

Since 1 have one of my faster 1 GB kits (crucail ballistix) out on RMA i decided to try this kit out since it had never been used and i thought a high fsb rig would be a good tryout for it. I also have some corsair 5400ul 1gb kits that would be a better choice than this ocz - both it and the ballistix will run at 4-4-3-8 or better at 900 + with enuf V. Right now they are in quads that are only running at 667'ish speeds.

/edit One other thing to watch with the giga bios, is when an oc fails to post, it resets the fsb to disabled (ie auto) as well as the pci-e speed. It also sets the ram multi back to auto i think. Pci-e you should set to 100 or 101 for your hight oc. So after a failed OC, you need to reset all those settings before tyring a new oc test.

I found with the current mem i had to relax the timings to 5-5-5-15 to run ortheos error free at this speed.

Also, once i got to 400 fsb, mch V had to be set to +.3 (max) and i threw a smalll fan on the nb heat sink cuz it is really hot. I also put one on the SB sink which was also pretty toasty. Not much of an issue on the low fsb with the higher multi quads, but that is one of the downsides of going with the 7 multi 6320, vs even the 8 multi 6420. Higher fsb = hotter, + you need faster memory.

For the $20 difference, the 6420 is likley a better choice ... but i wanted to try out a 63x0 since i have never had one. It is pleasing that the 6320 with it's 4MB cache continues to OC as well as the 6300's have.

The tpf on the test 2610 at 450 fsb is 11:28 :)

Before i put it to real work, i think i will try some higher v and fsb now since core temp is showing only 43C folding and it appears stable having crunched 48% of the 2610 without error. I think i might have to switch memory too to go much higher since i don't know how much faster this ocz stiuff will go. I know my corsair and crucial will go to 1000-1100.

[pik4chu]

/em swats cw upside the head with a nerf bat.

anywho the 6320 is now running 266*7 with the FSB @1066 like it should be. I decided to stop messing with it because the RAM is PC4300 (told you it sucked lol) and it cant even do 266*7 @3x multi so im not going to bother with it till I get the memory on monday. In the meantime Im going to look around for some NB cooling because they are ripping hot even on the 4300.

I think I am going to return the 2nd 4300 and get either a 4400 to try out or a 6420, the 6420s are kind of pricey though and may not be able to max it out with only PC800 to work with (and I dont intend to buy more)

Also I was not actually questioning your choice of RAM I just wanted to know what you were using because you didnt mention it :)

as a side note anyone know if a thermalright ultra-90 is rated to work on C2Ds? I have this little sunbeam C2D cooler that should be ok for the 4300 but Im thinking of getting something more for the 6320 or 6420 when I get it and I certainly wont be doing 450FSB(or anywhere close to that) on the stock heatsink haha.

[Evilsizer]

u90 is fine with c2d's, there is the new u90-extreme we should be able to get soon. if you pass on that one get a u120-extreme.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulex.html

*edit*
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/thulcpucofor.html
$22.95

[pscout]

Running with the 3.0 multi makes your ram run too fast once you oc fsb.

with c2d's on 965 mobos, i think it is generally best to leave the fsb : ram ratio at 1:1 ... which is 2.0 multipler in the gigabyte bios.

Also, you really need to do all setting after you do ctrl-f1 on entering bios, since otherwize you can't see a lot of the important oc settings like memory timings.

With slower slower memory, you can relax the timings to get to a higher oc.

Some increase in V ddr is likely also required, but the amount depends on the ram ... some ram gets worse if you give it a too much v.
On the old fatbody D9 based ram (eg corsair 5400ul) it will take as much v as any mobo will give it and the more you give it the faster it goes. This current ocz 800 i am using seems to need higher v (i am at +.5 = 2.3V now),
but another model of 2gb ocz in my sons 6400 rig sucks if i give it over 2.1V - it won't even post over 2.1 :shrug:

Not knowing the characteristics of your 4300 ram i dunno how fast it will go with what settings ... and it can take lots of orthos testing to find out.

[WarriorII]

4300 is an 800FSB (200mhz) chip, 6300/6320 is a 1066FSB (266mhz) chip. Thus the different multi's.

N00b. :D :D


My 4300 is a 266FSB. :beer:


:eek:





Oh yeah, that's what the defogger paint was for.... :p

Rock On Cw!

[pik4chu]

hence the reason I am not too concerned with OCing it anymore because the better stuff arrives monday. I only used this stuff because it was what I could get my hands on in short notice just to get them up and crunching WUs. After all even if I cant OC it yet why let a cpu just sit idle when it could be helping us chase down OCAU? :)

I know the 3x multi makes the ram run a lot faster when I OC the FSB the point was I wasnt ocing the FSB any and the RAM couldnt even run with 266*7 and 3x multi the BIOS said the FSB would be 800, upon reboot it reset the BIOS so that is a no, this was even with changing the RAM to 5-5-5-15. Apart from knowing the RAM is CAS4, A-data PC4300 I dont have anything else and for reasons I just mentioned dont care to make the effort to look it up because it is being replaced in 2 days.

and lol @WarriorII (btw Im packing up the stuff for AAR atm :) )

[NedClocker]

the better stuff arrives monday.

Will you be posting pics after it arrives? :D:D:D:D:D

I'm going to post a pic of my new stuff. :p :p :p

I think you may have started something. :eek:

[inkfx]

I'm totally jealous. I wish I could pick up a CPU and some memory and I could have another FOLDing rig going. This DS3 of mine is getting lonely.

[pik4chu]

Will you be posting pics after it arrives? :D:D:D:D:D

I'm going to post a pic of my new stuff. :p :p :p

I think you may have started something. :eek:
I hope I have started something :D

and ya I will be adding a pic of RAM I guess even though it wont be too exciting. I certainly will be posting OC results though.

[pik4chu]

well the RAM arrived, tossed it at the 6320 and we are at a happy 400FSB with a 1:1 divider. going to let it run through a few frames of the 2610 it got a few hours ago to see what that gives us. And move on from there.

*edit* looks like it has gone for ~17min tpf to ~13, time for more juice! :)

comp rebooted itself @450, so trying 425 now. ~2.96Ghz and leaving it alone for a bit while I bring the other rig online :)

[pik4chu]

Well I got good news and bad news, good news is it seems stable for now @425FSB w/ all voltages @stock so Ill leave it for a while and see what it does

the bad news is..... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=510239 :cry::cry:

[pscout]

well the RAM arrived, tossed it at the 6320 and we are at a happy 400FSB with a 1:1 divider. going to let it run through a few frames of the 2610 it got a few hours ago to see what that gives us. And move on from there.

*edit* looks like it has gone for ~17min tpf to ~13, time for more juice! :)

comp rebooted itself @450, so trying 425 now. ~2.96Ghz and leaving it alone for a bit while I bring the other rig online :)

What is VC set at? usually a reboot during a stress test means it needs a bit more. Mine is still running at 450 with 1.393 V in linux.

I had to adjust things this morning after a hung wu ... apparently it was a lot worse since it corrupted the linux partition :bang head.

i had pci-e on auto - forgot to reset yestderday when playing with other memory and on bios oc failure it gets reset to auto ... i normally set it to 102.
I also bumped Vddr to +.5 which is where i had done most testing with that mem.

Just for fun, i tried to recover things ... intalled another partition with linux and was able to recover the folding directory but the wu was corrupted :shrug:

[pik4chu]

vcore is set to 1.35 in the BIOS, also want to get some cooling on the NB/SB before I go too crazy with it.

[pscout]

yes ... needs some good air to the NB. The heatpipe asus puts on the p5b-d does a good job of cooling it's nb, but these ones will almost fry an egg. My ds3 is caseless on a bench so it is easy for me to just lay an 80 mm fan on it.

A lot of pople pull off the nb heatsink and redo the tim with as5. I haven't done it with this one yet but probably will soon. The other recent ds3's I have are running quads and the fsb is a lot lower so they don't get so hot. But I did it with my fisrt rev 1 board which has run a 6600 at 400 fsb. It folds at 370 now since i dropped the Vc under 1.4.

[pik4chu]

might just pickup a 3rd arty cooler for 10-15 bucks, dont mind spending that much because Im only doing it for the 6320

[pscout]

might just pickup a 3rd arty cooler for 10-15 bucks, dont mind spending that much because Im only doing it for the 6320

or even just screw a small 40mm fan on it ... if noise isn't an issue you can get some real screamers in that size :D ... wood or metal screws work fine to attach then between the fins on the existing sinks.

[pik4chu]

or even just screw a small 40mm fan on it ... if noise isn't an issue you can get some real screamers in that size :D ... wood or metal screws work fine to attach then between the fins on the existing sinks.
hmm now that Ive cleaned up the place I forget where I put those 40mm's lol :p

guess I am going to take a look around.

oh ya I do have a dozen or so of these babies :D http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/item/CF-224/220100/SMALL_12VDC_HI-SPEED_FAN_ASSEMBLY_.html

not sure what to do about the SB though, it is also very hot but way too small for a fan, hmmm

[pik4chu]

wierd, anyone else's edit post button flaking out recently? Anyways for fun I stuck one of the fans I linked above, within a matter of 2 minutes the NB was COLD to the touch, hahaha. Unfortunately they are too loud @12V even if they were enclosed in a room. so now for a practical solution :)

undervolted the crossflow to 5V and it is rather quite but still has very good air pressure, I think it will do nicely. :)

[pscout]

after reading your link on those fans i could just imagine a shopvac :eek:

I too have most of my hd fans on the bench beside me running at 5V.

I have a couple of delta gfb1212vhw's ... roughly a 120mm version of those ones you have. when i run the one in the rig room at 12v on hot summer days you can hear the hum in most of the house :eek:

[cw823]

I have the God awful 120s and 80s that Silverstone makes....the white ones. If I concentrate, on the 2nd floor of my house.....I can hear them......in my basement. But temps aren't an issue:beer:

[pik4chu]

hehe, well I set a 40mm fan on the SB for now and I bumped vcore from 1.35->1.35625 and cranked up to 450FSB. after about 40 seconds in windows I got a BSOD with hardware failure, dropped it down to 440 and it is running fine(*edit* BSOD after 40min or so, bumped vcore up to 1.3625 and trying again @440). guess I need a little more vcore :) I wonder how high this RAM can go

*edit* well it seems stable now, been running @440 w/ VC @ 1.3625 for the last 2 hours with no BSOD or EUE so yay for now! and before any OC project 2610 was running at just over 18min tpf, now we are at a solid 12:00, helluva improvement if you ask me :)

And yes those little 40mm buggars are LOUD even louder than most 1U servers Ive seen(heard), heh.

here is the setup. Oh and heat of the CPU isnt an issue yet evenwith the stock cooler. according to TAT (which Ive found to be very accurate) says the cores are in the 52-54C range under load.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/pik4chu/E6320_OC.jpg

*edit* I love my camera lol, the computer is on and all the fans are moving.

[LandShark]

I have one of my DS3 running the 6400 @ 3.33ghz with stock NB heatsink, it's hot, but no problme whatsoever. (I'm using a SI-128 heatsink tho)

[pik4chu]

I have an Ultra-90 I could slap on this thing, might do it tomorrow now that Ive reached a decent level. I feel that if I were to take it to the next level, like get some PC 1000 RAM and the 120 or 120 extreme this chip could go even higher but I am quite satisfied with this OC thus far and still with only stock cooler and 2 40mm fans. woot.

[jws2346]

Wow pik, I just ordered this cheap camera and I wish it would get nice, clear pictures like yours. They are "super fine". Now, back on topic, do you think with relatively low OC's (2.8 GHz to 3.2 GHz) on a P5B Dlx mobo that I need to reseat the HS's on the board's chips? How about adding a fan to the NB? I carefully touched the HS's to see if they were hot, but I'm not that good a judge of temperatures and I was reading this one post where it was a good idea, but I think the OP was talking about a high OC'. :confused:

[pik4chu]

Well the DS3 is now rock solid with a ultra-90 and according to TAT the cpu temps ahve dropped 15C. After adding the fans to the NB and SB they are super cool. I also did not reseat any of them I simply gave them some active cooling. Before the fans they were actually too hot to even touch. Now the tpf on the 2610s is down to 12:00 flat. In regards to yours what kind of RAM are you using and what are the timings set at? Also and what kind of cooling do you have on the CPU on NB/SB? I do think that if the NB and SB only feel warm to the touch then that is not the source of your problem

I am leaving it be for a bit and concentrating on the E4300. Which is really disapointing me; it wont even stay @ 9x225 not sure wtf is going on here. I have another vid card coming because switching them around has become cumbersome and I dont want it to cause a problem. So Im leaving the 1st e4300 @ stock for the moment. It is annoying but 900PPd is better than 0 :)

another side note, It seems I had a power flicker late last night, or something which caused the E6320 to EUE :( But it is now up and running again so it is all good.

[jws2346]

I've got a small question I've got a E6600 sitting in a Biostar TForce P965 mobo, I checked the NB and it's just warm, but I checked the SB and it seems to be hot. I've got a ZM-NB47J cooler by Zalman here in my closet and I was wondering if it would fit or be worth my while to install it on my mobo. (it's only a static cooler) Obviously a fan (active cooler) would be better, right? I have a Zalman 9700 HSF, but the cooling air it provides to the chipset is cut off by the video card? Would a intake fan on the side be more efficient?

[pik4chu]

I would say a small 40mm fan on the SB (if it really is hot) would help but if your NB is cool and SB is kinda hot I dont think that is your problem with the OC.

[jws2346]

I would say a small 40mm fan on the SB (if it really is hot) would help but if your NB is cool and SB is kinda hot I dont think that is your problem with the OC.

So what do you think I should do? Take the E6600 down to maybe 3.0 GHz? It folds with no problems and passes a overnight (about 12 hrs) Orthos test (the test about stressing the cpu) I like your suggestion of a 40mm fan, do they have them at Fry's? (I know a dumb question, they have everything at Fry's) :confused:

[Adak]

I'm not a heavy o/c'er by any means, but a hot sb, and a cool nb, seems WEIRD. I'd be very tempted to check that out further. Maybe the sb heatsink needs some thermal paste and didn't get any?

My Fry's does carry 40mm fans. The one's with the higher current on their labels, also move more air, and make a soundbyte only a screaming mimi could love. :p

For me, moderate fan speed is sheer bliss. :clap:

[jws2346]

I'm not a heavy o/c'er by any means, but a hot sb, and a cool nb, seems WEIRD. I'd be very tempted to check that out further. Maybe the sb heatsink needs some thermal paste and didn't get any?

My Fry's does carry 40mm fans. The one's with the higher current on their labels, also move more air, and make a soundbyte only a screaming mimi could love. :p

For me, moderate fan speed is sheer bliss. :clap:

D'oh, that is kinda' weird the NB being "not too hot" and the SB hot? :confused: I just chalked it up to maybe the video card cutting off the Zalman 9700's chipset cooling ability :confused: (that's why I asked a stronger case side fan might help cool the SB?)

Edit: Yeah, I'm definitely the "passive" heatsink type, I've undervolted just about every fan I have.

[pik4chu]

I'm not a heavy o/c'er by any means, but a hot sb, and a cool nb, seems WEIRD. I'd be very tempted to check that out further. Maybe the sb heatsink needs some thermal paste and didn't get any?

My Fry's does carry 40mm fans. The one's with the higher current on their labels, also move more air, and make a soundbyte only a screaming mimi could love. :p

For me, moderate fan speed is sheer bliss. :clap:
Well on the DS3 if I use a tower type cooler (side to side airflow rather than top to bottom) and position it a certain way it would cool the NB but not the SB because it is further away.

Passive cooling doesn't mean undervolting :p I would have stayed with passive cooling but the NB/SB were just rippin' hot and it let me crank the FSB even higher.

@jws2346: are your RAM timings very lose when trying to push upward? Mine are at 5-6-6 to get this speeds, but granted it is only PC800. I think tonight Im going to push for a bit more, but the E4300 is really ****ing me off since it just wont stay stable. Maybe Ill just try the 1066 FSB mod.

[Evilsizer]

if you guys havent seen my thread yet you might want to keep an eye on these $40 D9's.
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=510513

[pik4chu]

good find on those D9s, but not really practical for me. Getting better speeds with my a-data and for ~$25 less (less RAM to but a duo does not need 2gigs, really doesnt need 1gig). Unless of course you are not done pushing them.

[Evilsizer]

nope i just did a test run last night, when i get off work imma be doing more testing.

[pik4chu]

E6320 now @450FSB and stable, was working on an arcade restore and forgot to up the FSB after adding the ultra-90 hehe :)

[sno.lcn]

Can you tell me what settings you're using to get 450fsb on that board (I mean ALL of them) because I got a ds3 last night and I'm having a helluva time getting this thing to oc. I got a fan on the NB but my 8800gts is in the way so I can't get a fan on the sb, I just put one blowing at it.

*Edit: I'm at 360 fsb now and ram at 1:1, and there should definitely not be any stability issues. I'll go for 400 later on tonight and then I'll drop the multi to 8 and shoot for 450 :attn:

[pscout]

I am running the same speed ds3 r 3.3 with 6320 @450.
Caseless with AF7 hsf, and a couple of 80mm fans on the nb/mem and sb.

I think i have read that these oc easiest with (cheap) pci vid cards so you might want to figure out your oc if you have one, then see how it stands up with your 8800.

The memory i am using is 2gb ocz 6400 rev 1 rated 4-5-4-15 running at 5-5-5-15.

Bios atm is f11b beta (states support for 6320,6420). It worked ok at shipped F9 level but i flashed it trying to get some crucial 800 mem to work (failed!). The crucial mem is nice on my asus mobo's but have had no luck with it on the ds3 rev 1 or 3.3.

Settings:
fsb=450
pci-e=102, sys memory multiplier=2.00 (results in 1:1 fsb to ram)
mem timings = 5,5,5,15
vc=1.3975 , vfsb=+.1, vmch=+.3, vddr=+.5

The rest of the OC settings are at default.

I also disable all the Integrated Peripherals i don't use:
- usb, serial, parallel.

[sno.lcn]

I was running orthos while I watched a movie and I came back to find my compie rebooted so maybe I need more chipset voltage? BTW, I'm glad to know it's not a ram problem, as I'm using the same stuff you are, but I should probably up the voltage like you have yours :)

[pscout]

I was running orthos while I watched a movie and I came back to find my compie rebooted so maybe I need more chipset voltage? BTW, I'm glad to know it's not a ram problem, as I'm using the same stuff you are :)

I am pretty sure 450/900 is the max for this ram but i won't know until i try out some of my other fast ram. I was hoping the crucial 800 would work since I have 4 kits of it but it won't work in these ds3's at all and not well in a few of the p5wd2-x's.
I have some fatbody corsair and mushkin, and some teamgroup stuff that should go faster but it is a pita to take down another folding rig to swap them and then retest the oc's :shrug:

[sno.lcn]

I think I may have just fried something, maybe my ram :bang head

[pik4chu]

my settings are
CPU 450*7
RAM is a-data PC 800 (link on first page)
settings for RAM is 5-5-6-15 with 1:1 multi
Vcore - 1.3625
vdimm - no change
PCI-X locked to 100Mhz
Cooler is a Thermalright ultra-90 with an undervolted Panaflo.
1 40mm counter-rotating fan @5V (model is a sunon I think) on the northbridge
1 40mm low-noise delta @5v on the southbridge

changing from the stock intel cooler @440FSB to the ultra-90 @450FSB dropped the temps by ~12C and only a little noisier

[pik4chu]

I think I may have just fried something, maybe my ram :bang head
:eek: