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=$RitZ$=
12-10-01, 10:25 PM
Does anyone know of any reliable canadian online stores?
fearless
12-10-01, 11:18 PM
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45903
Check this thread. There's some good ones here.
I know of some reliable places in the real world but not on line, where are you? Maybe the stores I know of are close by.
=$RitZ$=
12-11-01, 08:16 AM
I'm in Montreal, Quebec.
Originally posted by =$RitZ$=
I'm in Montreal, Quebec.
I thought you said you were in Canada???? (j/k)
Sorry, I can't help you. Let me know when you move to Toronto.
ThePunkGeek
12-13-01, 09:35 AM
e-compuvison.com
bigfootcomputers.com
bestbytecomputer.com <not sure if you can order from them>
them are the stores i buy all my stuff from
Originally posted by ThePunkGeek
bestbytecomputer.com <not sure if you can order from them>
them are the stores i buy all my stuff from
I will swear UNDER OATH that I have had employees at bestbyte LIE TO ME DIRECTLY TO MY FACE!!! I STRONGLY URGE EVERYONE TO NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM EVER. I HAVE HORROR STORIES OF THE WAY THEY TREATED ME AS A CUSTOMER. And if needed I will gladly tell them. My motto about bestbyte is this:
Their prices are why I shop there,
The fact that their staff would lie to and mislead me, and sell inferior products, at least a third of which would be dead right out of the box, is what kept me coming back (for exchanges).
Seriously, if you wish to maintain your ability to respect yourself I suggest you avoid them like the plague.
I cannot say enough bad things about them. :mad: X 1,000,000!!!
flounder43
12-13-01, 03:04 PM
Just for kicks, tell us one of those stories, the WORST one if possible...Thanks, your neighbor to the south...
Originally posted by flounder43
Just for kicks, tell us one of those stories, the WORST one if possible...Thanks, your neighbor to the south...
It'll take a bit to put the whole tale to paper (electrons?) and I want to make sure it's understandable (I'm not the king of fluent expression) so gimmie a day or two.
Originally posted by eobard
Seriously, if you wish to maintain your ability to respect yourself I suggest you avoid them like the plague.
:(
Well maybe if your avatar would stop mooning everyone you wouldn't get that kind of reaction. (sorry, sometimes the truth hurts)
hmm..I dont know how to take that one. you just jokin around?? I hope, cuz my avatar isnt "mooning everyone", its just funny. oh well...
Originally posted by plague
hmm..I dont know how to take that one. you just jokin around?? I hope, cuz my avatar isnt "mooning everyone", its just funny. oh well...
1) Humorously.
2) I disagree. I don't think it's just funny. I think it is funny and he is mooning everyone.
Originally posted by flounder43
Just for kicks, tell us one of those stories, the WORST one if possible...Thanks, your neighbor to the south...
Here you go:
I owned a 14.4 modem, Zoltrix, it was cheap so I bought it. Cheap was a good word for it, not just price but quality. I decided to buy a 28.8 or 33.6 (56k Had just barely hit the market, they weren't even standardized yet). I went to bestbyte (you'll note the lack of capitalization on their name, that's not an accident or mistake on my part) computers in Whitby Ontario. They had the cheapest prices in the region at the time. In the store I looked at all of the models of modems they had. You have to be careful when getting a modem, modems can be real fickle, I've heard from more than one source that some big brand name modems refuse to talk to other big brand names even though they both use the same standardized communication protocols. So I made sure to scrutinize the packaging for each modem I looked at. At one point I asked a sales rep if I could look at the manuals for the modems, if the weren't sealed in plastic, and he said I could. After about 20 minutes my choice was down to 3 no-name/low- name 33.6 voice modems, each $99.99, or a creative "modem blaster" that was 28.8 without voice option for $109.99. I didn't like the idea of using obscure initialization strings (I'll explain in detail later for those whose internet experience has taken place solely within the cable modem era) so I was leaning in favor of the modem blaster. I flagged down a salesman. I pointed out the fact that the modem was plug-and-play but the manual said it would run in DOS or WIN 3.1 with a configuration utility that came with the modem. I told him I was using OS/2 WARP, and DOS with WIN 3.1 and I asked him if what was in the manual was true. He looked me right in the eye and said in no uncertain terms "yes". He, after being told of my os configuration, told me clearly that the modem blaster would work with my setup. So I bought it. And took it home. And found that the utility would not configure it at all. Moreover the images in the manual showed a graphical configuration utility where the user would have a choice of many IRQ settings and COM addresses. When I used the utility my choices for the IRQ were limited to IRQ 11 and IRQ 11 (not a typo). It was IRQ 11 the end. So I brought my system to them and they configured it. The repair guy set it up but didn't test it. Somehow he got the configuration utility to install by telling it I had a modem on COM port 2, IRQ 11 AND COM port 3, IRQ 11. (???) So I took the system home and tried it. It didn't work. So I brought it back and they checked it out and told me the modem was bad (that's one) and put in another of the same kind. And I took it home. And it didn't work (that's two). And I brought it back. At this point I wanted to go with one of the no/low name brands, I even would have let them keep the $10 difference. I talked to a man who claimed to be one of the owners. He declared utterly that, and I quote "We ALWAYS tell our customers not to buy plug-and-play unless they're using windows 95." That was not true, weather it was a lie or an incompetent assumption I don't know but it was in no way true at all. Had he said "It is policy to tell the customers not to buy plug-and-play unless they use windows 95." Then that could have been true, it may have been policy and it could have been that the employee broke the policy, but he didn't say that. He said for a fact that his employees alway tell the customers not to buy p-n-p unless they use windows 95. So I tell him that this modem is not acceptable and that I had actually sought out one of his employees to ask if it was compatible with my system and he guaranteed it was. So now the owner tells me I can get a different modem but I have to take the Zoltrix 33.6 voice modem. I'd like to stop the story for a moment to point out that in my personal experience up to that point (and still now), Zoltrix quality is sub par at best. I have returned Zoltrix products before because the did not work properly for an appropriate length of time. So I tell the owner that I don't want Zoltrix because in my opinion they are garbage, and that getting away from Zoltrix brand is one of the reasons for my upgrade. He guaranteed me that I wouldn't have any problems because there is a 5 year warrantee on the 33.6 modem and they will repair or replace the modem at any point within 5 years without any problems to me. So I give the guy at the register the modem blaster and the price difference (extra $25) and he gives me the zoltrix modem. I mumbled something about zoltrix having low quality and this guy basically orders me to never say anything negative about zoltrix again because they are a great company with excellent quality.Apparently trying to force customers to shape their opinions to what the employees want them to be is acceptable in this store. So I tell him about some of the problems people I know have had with zoltrix modems and he insists that that's only the old 14.4, he declares that the zoltrix 33.6 are one of, if not the, best there is. So I take it home and put it in my machine. And it runs for about 45 seconds before crashing my comm program. I test it in another machine I own and have the same problem. I call a friend who lives in a different part of the city and ask if I can bring it over to test on his machine, in his house, on his phone lines. He agrees so I head to his house with the things I'll need. His computer was a 286 with a 20 meg hard drive so I couldn't use the same comm program I had used at home, I needed something compact without a lot of bells and whistles that could be run from a floppy. I found a shareware program that fit the description and so I used that program on my friends computer. The shareware program didn't have a lot of bells and whistles but one thing it did have was a very good internal diagnostic program. When the modem crashed at my friends house the comm program reported a "UART receiver parity error". Now I had proof of the bad modem. I took it home and tested it on both of my machines using the shareware program just to be sure. Bingo! "UART receiver parity error" both times (that's three bad modems for those keeping count). So I took it back. I tell the owner (same guy) that the modem doesn't work and that it gave me a UART receiver parity error and he tells me that "parity error" means that my system's memory is bad and that therefore nothing is wrong with the modem. I tell him it was a "UART receiver parity error" and ask him if he knows what a UART chip is. He just looks at me confused. I tell him the UART chip controls the modem's communication, that it's built into the modem, and that I tested the modem on three different machines, in two different houses, on two different phone lines, with the only thing in common being the modem, and that I've had the memory in my computers for a couple of years and I have no problem with my system memory at all. I also pointed out that he himself guaranteed that if I ever had a problem in 5 years with this modem that he would repair or replace it without hassle. So he decides to give me another Zoltrix modem. And I take it home. It works. (WOW!!!!) There are a few quirks though, first the card is bent. It curves like warped wood. The bottom fits into the ISA socket fine but the top corner, away from the connector slot, is so far bent that it almost touches the card beside it. There is only about 3mm space between the modem and my sound card. Second the peizo-buzzer is stuck in the second lowest setting. Now lets into initialization strings and such. An initialization string configures the modem's operational parameters. Sounds obvious but you'd be surprised by just how many different things there are to be configured in a modem. How fast it dials, how long it waits before hanging up if it can't get through, how often it will retry, how dense the data compression will be, which form of data compression will be used, etc. Most of the settings are configured by what is called the "AT" commands. You set the AT commands by typing "AT" followed by a few letters, number or symbols. A verbose listing of the current settings of a modem can be displayed by typing "AT&V" from the comm program prompt. One of the AT commands, the "M" command, controls the piezo element's volume. This AT command is set by typing "ATM#" from a comm program like Hyperterminal. The "#" symbol represents for possible numbers. If you type ATM0 the piezo element is turned off, if you type ATM1, ATM2 or ATM3 the element is set to a specific volume level. 1 is the quietest, 3 is the loudest and 2 is between the two. No matter what setting I set the element to (even off) it would always sound audible but very quiet. This I could live with so I decided to keep my mostly working modem instead of taking it back. About 6 1/2 months later the piezo element stopped working (that's four), it was as if it went from being jammed at ATM1 to being jammed at ATM0. So I took my machine to the store to have them replace the modem. I walk in and go to the service desk. A guy comes up to me and asks if he can help me (he couldn't). I explain to him that the modem's piezo element is blown. He looks at me confused. I explain that the piezo element is the modem's speaker. So he gets a keyboard and monitor and fires up my computer to check. And when my dual boot screen for OS/2 or WIN 3.1 comes up he doesn't know what to do and just stares at it so after 5 seconds it default boots to OS/2. So I shut the system down and boot it to WIN 3.1. Once in WIN 3.1 he starts opening folders looking for the graphical bar to configure the modem's volume. There isn't one in WIN 3.1. I tell him this but he insists on looking for it for at least 3 minutes. Eventually I get him to stop what he's doing and let me show him that it isn't working. I open a comm program and tell him to check the AT command switches to verify that the ringer is set to loud. He has no Idea what I'm talking about so I walk him through it key by key. I tell him to type "A", "T", "AND" (with specific emphasis on "and") and "V". He types ATV and hits enter, which of course does nothing. So I tell him to type "A", "T" "AND" and at this point tell him to hit the "AND" key, he doesn't know what I'm talking about so I tell him the "AND" key is "shift 7" (this little fellow here: &), followed by "V" and the enter key. He does this and a list of the common AT command settings is displayed. Now I point out which AT setting controls the volume and the fact that it is set to 3. I tell him that because it is set to three that that means the modem's ringer should sound loud if I dial out. He stares at the screen, the look of total lack of understanding is almost tangible with this guy. He stares at it for almost a whole minute, then looks at me and says "I'm going to have to test this in a windows 95 machine to see if it works." So I shut down my machine, because he doesn't know how to shut down WIN 3.1, and he takes the modem out and puts it in a windows 95 machine. After running around looking for the right Rockwell driver he finally gets the system up and running with the modem in it. He goes to the "System Properties Device manager" and looks for the graphical volume bar to set the volume on my modem's piezo element. It isn't there (for what reason I don't know). So he comes to me and says, and I quote:"I tried to set the volume of this modem in 95 but there wasn't a volume adjustment bar therefore this is the kind of modem that you can't set the volume on." Can you believe that??? Especially given how buggy 95 was. I'm not talking 95B, or even 95A, just raw, fresh on the market 95. That reminds me of the line about a rock keeping lions away because "no lions are around therefore it must be working". So I tell him that I was able to have volume coming out of the modem before, that it just stopped recently. He says "Oh really? Ok, well this one must be broken then (duh!:rolleyes: ), we'll give you a new one." It took him at least a half an hour to conclude what I had told him, and tried to show him all along.
I have more, the tale is only half done, but my fingers are starting to bleed and I think you all get the point by now. Besides Skip's probably running out of drive space from storing this. Let me just say that it took 3 more bad modems, two dead out of the box and one that lasted 2 or 3 days, and more insults from staff and owners of bestbyte, and more being told what to think by owners and staff at bestbyte, before I got half my money back. Which was as good as it was going to get so I took it, left, and never went back.
MrOOBiLL
12-27-01, 12:55 PM
Well, after reading that (for about 8min:D), I will never buy anything from bestbyte. ;)
DAmnit that could be 100 pages to a novel.
Man byte( haha) me best byte :p
Ottoman
12-27-01, 05:27 PM
that's got to be the longest single block of text i've seen on this forum ever since I started reading it!!
SteenkyBastage
12-27-01, 05:48 PM
must...have...new...paragraph...
head...aches...
if i...could...just...reach my...bat...utility belt...
Originally posted by SteenkyBastage
must...have...new...paragraph...
head...aches...
if i...could...just...reach my...bat...utility belt...
Was that supposed to be Batman? Cause it reads more like William Shatner or softwebdev. :p
SteenkyBastage
12-27-01, 05:58 PM
haha, that was the original tv series batman.
he would always grunt and strain out each word when he was trying to reach his bat utility belt.
i put the softwebdev dots in to try to make it seem like a pause between each word like batman did. cant think of any other way to do it. heh.
Originally posted by SteenkyBastage
haha, that was the original tv series batman.
he would always grunt and strain out each word when he was trying to reach his bat utility belt.
Not half as bad as Shatner.
Spock...must...pause.............................. ...............................................
.................................................. .................................................. .....
.................................................. .................................................. .....
.................................................. .................................................. .....
.................................................. .................................................. .....
.................................................. .................................................. ....
dramatically.
KeyboardCowboy
12-28-01, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by eobard
I thought you said you were in Canada???? (j/k)
Sorry, I can't help you. Let me know when you move to Toronto.
LOL HAHAHAHA, that was good
Originally posted by KeyboardCowboy
LOL HAHAHAHA, that was good
Yeah well, actually Montreal is part of Canada, it's the rest of Quebec that's not. (in their collective, general opinion)
minoukat
12-29-01, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by eobard
Yeah well, actually Montreal is part of Canada, it's the rest of Quebec that's not. (in their collective, general opinion)
If you go to the city of Québec, you'll see on the highway a sign saying "Welcome to the National Capital" (in french though)
Gandalf
01-01-02, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by eobard
Here you go:
I owned a 14.4 modem, Zoltrix, it was cheap so I bought it. Cheap was a good word for it, not just price but quality. I decided to buy a 28.8 or 33.6 (56k Had just barely hit the market, they weren't even standardized yet). I went to bestbyte (you'll note the lack of capitalization on their name, that's not an accident or mistake on my part) computers in Whitby Ontario. They had the cheapest prices in the region at the time. In the store I looked at all of the models of modems they had. You have to be careful when getting a modem, modems can be real fickle, I've heard from more than one source that some big brand name modems refuse to talk to other big brand names even though they both use the same standardized communication protocols. So I made sure to scrutinize the packaging for each modem I looked at. At one point I asked a sales rep if I could look at the manuals for the modems, if the weren't sealed in plastic, and he said I could. After about 20 minutes my choice was down to 3 no-name/low- name 33.6 voice modems, each $99.99, or a creative "modem blaster" that was 28.8 without voice option for $109.99. I didn't like the idea of using obscure initialization strings (I'll explain in detail later for those whose internet experience has taken place solely within the cable modem era) so I was leaning in favor of the modem blaster. I flagged down a salesman. I pointed out the fact that the modem was plug-and-play but the manual said it would run in DOS or WIN 3.1 with a configuration utility that came with the modem. I told him I was using OS/2 WARP, and DOS with WIN 3.1 and I asked him if what was in the manual was true. He looked me right in the eye and said in no uncertain terms "yes". He, after being told of my os configuration, told me clearly that the modem blaster would work with my setup. So I bought it. And took it home. And found that the utility would not configure it at all. Moreover the images in the manual showed a graphical configuration utility where the user would have a choice of many IRQ settings and COM addresses. When I used the utility my choices for the IRQ were limited to IRQ 11 and IRQ 11 (not a typo). It was IRQ 11 the end. So I brought my system to them and they configured it. The repair guy set it up but didn't test it. Somehow he got the configuration utility to install by telling it I had a modem on COM port 2, IRQ 11 AND COM port 3, IRQ 11. (???) So I took the system home and tried it. It didn't work. So I brought it back and they checked it out and told me the modem was bad (that's one) and put in another of the same kind. And I took it home. And it didn't work (that's two). And I brought it back. At this point I wanted to go with one of the no/low name brands, I even would have let them keep the $10 difference. I talked to a man who claimed to be one of the owners. He declared utterly that, and I quote "We ALWAYS tell our customers not to buy plug-and-play unless they're using windows 95." That was not true, weather it was a lie or an incompetent assumption I don't know but it was in no way true at all. Had he said "It is policy to tell the customers not to buy plug-and-play unless they use windows 95." Then that could have been true, it may have been policy and it could have been that the employee broke the policy, but he didn't say that. He said for a fact that his employees alway tell the customers not to buy p-n-p unless they use windows 95. So I tell him that this modem is not acceptable and that I had actually sought out one of his employees to ask if it was compatible with my system and he guaranteed it was. So now the owner tells me I can get a different modem but I have to take the Zoltrix 33.6 voice modem. I'd like to stop the story for a moment to point out that in my personal experience up to that point (and still now), Zoltrix quality is sub par at best. I have returned Zoltrix products before because the did not work properly for an appropriate length of time. So I tell the owner that I don't want Zoltrix because in my opinion they are garbage, and that getting away from Zoltrix brand is one of the reasons for my upgrade. He guaranteed me that I wouldn't have any problems because there is a 5 year warrantee on the 33.6 modem and they will repair or replace the modem at any point within 5 years without any problems to me. So I give the guy at the register the modem blaster and the price difference (extra $25) and he gives me the zoltrix modem. I mumbled something about zoltrix having low quality and this guy basically orders me to never say anything negative about zoltrix again because they are a great company with excellent quality.Apparently trying to force customers to shape their opinions to what the employees want them to be is acceptable in this store. So I tell him about some of the problems people I know have had with zoltrix modems and he insists that that's only the old 14.4, he declares that the zoltrix 33.6 are one of, if not the, best there is. So I take it home and put it in my machine. And it runs for about 45 seconds before crashing my comm program. I test it in another machine I own and have the same problem. I call a friend who lives in a different part of the city and ask if I can bring it over to test on his machine, in his house, on his phone lines. He agrees so I head to his house with the things I'll need. His computer was a 286 with a 20 meg hard drive so I couldn't use the same comm program I had used at home, I needed something compact without a lot of bells and whistles that could be run from a floppy. I found a shareware program that fit the description and so I used that program on my friends computer. The shareware program didn't have a lot of bells and whistles but one thing it did have was a very good internal diagnostic program. When the modem crashed at my friends house the comm program reported a "UART receiver parity error". Now I had proof of the bad modem. I took it home and tested it on both of my machines using the shareware program just to be sure. Bingo! "UART receiver parity error" both times (that's three bad modems for those keeping count). So I took it back. I tell the owner (same guy) that the modem doesn't work and that it gave me a UART receiver parity error and he tells me that "parity error" means that my system's memory is bad and that therefore nothing is wrong with the modem. I tell him it was a "UART receiver parity error" and ask him if he knows what a UART chip is. He just looks at me confused. I tell him the UART chip controls the modem's communication, that it's built into the modem, and that I tested the modem on three different machines, in two different houses, on two different phone lines, with the only thing in common being the modem, and that I've had the memory in my computers for a couple of years and I have no problem with my system memory at all. I also pointed out that he himself guaranteed that if I ever had a problem in 5 years with this modem that he would repair or replace it without hassle. So he decides to give me another Zoltrix modem. And I take it home. It works. (WOW!!!!) There are a few quirks though, first the card is bent. It curves like warped wood. The bottom fits into the ISA socket fine but the top corner, away from the connector slot, is so far bent that it almost touches the card beside it. There is only about 3mm space between the modem and my sound card. Second the peizo-buzzer is stuck in the second lowest setting. Now lets into initialization strings and such. An initialization string configures the modem's operational parameters. Sounds obvious but you'd be surprised by just how many different things there are to be configured in a modem. How fast it dials, how long it waits before hanging up if it can't get through, how often it will retry, how dense the data compression will be, which form of data compression will be used, etc. Most of the settings are configured by what is called the "AT" commands. You set the AT commands by typing "AT" followed by a few letters, number or symbols. A verbose listing of the current settings of a modem can be displayed by typing "AT&V" from the comm program prompt. One of the AT commands, the "M" command, controls the piezo element's volume. This AT command is set by typing "ATM#" from a comm program like Hyperterminal. The "#" symbol represents for possible numbers. If you type ATM0 the piezo element is turned off, if you type ATM1, ATM2 or ATM3 the element is set to a specific volume level. 1 is the quietest, 3 is the loudest and 2 is between the two. No matter what setting I set the element to (even off) it would always sound audible but very quiet. This I could live with so I decided to keep my mostly working modem instead of taking it back. About 6 1/2 months later the piezo element stopped working (that's four), it was as if it went from being jammed at ATM1 to being jammed at ATM0. So I took my machine to the store to have them replace the modem. I walk in and go to the service desk. A guy comes up to me and asks if he can help me (he couldn't). I explain to him that the modem's piezo element is blown. He looks at me confused. I explain that the piezo element is the modem's speaker. So he gets a keyboard and monitor and fires up my computer to check. And when my dual boot screen for OS/2 or WIN 3.1 comes up he doesn't know what to do and just stares at it so after 5 seconds it default boots to OS/2. So I shut the system down and boot it to WIN 3.1. Once in WIN 3.1 he starts opening folders looking for the graphical bar to configure the modem's volume. There isn't one in WIN 3.1. I tell him this but he insists on looking for it for at least 3 minutes. Eventually I get him to stop what he's doing and let me show him that it isn't working. I open a comm program and tell him to check the AT command switches to verify that the ringer is set to loud. He has no Idea what I'm talking about so I walk him through it key by key. I tell him to type "A", "T", "AND" (with specific emphasis on "and") and "V". He types ATV and hits enter, which of course does nothing. So I tell him to type "A", "T" "AND" and at this point tell him to hit the "AND" key, he doesn't know what I'm talking about so I tell him the "AND" key is "shift 7" (this little fellow here: &), followed by "V" and the enter key. He does this and a list of the common AT command settings is displayed. Now I point out which AT setting controls the volume and the fact that it is set to 3. I tell him that because it is set to three that that means the modem's ringer should sound loud if I dial out. He stares at the screen, the look of total lack of understanding is almost tangible with this guy. He stares at it for almost a whole minute, then looks at me and says "I'm going to have to test this in a windows 95 machine to see if it works." So I shut down my machine, because he doesn't know how to shut down WIN 3.1, and he takes the modem out and puts it in a windows 95 machine. After running around looking for the right Rockwell driver he finally gets the system up and running with the modem in it. He goes to the "System Properties Device manager" and looks for the graphical volume bar to set the volume on my modem's piezo element. It isn't there (for what reason I don't know). So he comes to me and says, and I quote:"I tried to set the volume of this modem in 95 but there wasn't a volume adjustment bar therefore this is the kind of modem that you can't set the volume on." Can you believe that??? Especially given how buggy 95 was. I'm not talking 95B, or even 95A, just raw, fresh on the market 95. That reminds me of the line about a rock keeping lions away because "no lions are around therefore it must be working". So I tell him that I was able to have volume coming out of the modem before, that it just stopped recently. He says "Oh really? Ok, well this one must be broken then (duh!:rolleyes: ), we'll give you a new one." It took him at least a half an hour to conclude what I had told him, and tried to show him all along.
I have more, the tale is only half done, but my fingers are starting to bleed and I think you all get the point by now. Besides Skip's probably running out of drive space from storing this. Let me just say that it took 3 more bad modems, two dead out of the box and one that lasted 2 or 3 days, and more insults from staff and owners of bestbyte, and more being told what to think by owners and staff at bestbyte, before I got half my money back. Which was as good as it was going to get so I took it, left, and never went back.
:rolleyes:
MrOOBiLL
01-01-02, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by GaDaLf
:rolleyes:
Bah! I enjoyed it :) :o
SteenkyBastage
01-03-02, 10:42 AM
in response to "i'm canadian"
the first step is admitting you have a problem.
congratulations now on to the next step...
haha, j/k
mikester
01-05-02, 11:27 PM
in response to "i'm canadian"
the first step is admitting you have a problem.
congratulations now on to the next step...
haha, j/k
better watch it, we have access to a lot of crazy indians with guns....:eek:
(and some of those french people up north have guns AND skidoos!)
SteenkyBastage
01-06-02, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by mikester
(and some of those french people up north have guns AND skidoos!)
lol, dare i ask what a skidoo is?!?
i've been to alaska and they had killer skeeters (mosquitoes), is that what yer talkin about?
Skidoo = Snowmobile. It's a motorcycle designed to run on snow. People buy them, run them on ice, and then get fished out of the lake come spring time. At least that's the general concept behind snowmobiles.
Ottoman
01-12-02, 11:43 AM
ski-doo is actually a brand name of snowmobiles..but used in synoym,
like kleenex vs tissue paper..
and they also make Sea-doo for jet Ski's...
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