View Full Version : Can someone explain C/W to me
ThePunkGeek
12-11-01, 09:44 AM
Well i was reading reviews on CPU temptures and C/W kept being talked about. I was some what lost because i dont know what it stands for?
Could someone tell me please thx!
KILLorBE
12-11-01, 09:51 AM
Delta = CPU temp - Ambient Temp
C/W = Delta / CPU Watts
Interpreting C/W: For every watt the CPU radiates, the heatsink will cool the core by the (C/W x watts) plus ambient temp. For example, at an ambient temp of 25 C, a C/W of 0.25 with a CPU radiating 50 watts means that the CPU temp will be 50 x 0.25 = 12.5 C over ambient temp, or 37.5 C. The lower the C/W, the better.
Does that help?
ThePunkGeek
12-11-01, 12:50 PM
sorta but i still dunno what it stands for
what it stands for is not as important as what it does - you can call it what ever you want - it doesn't matter one lick!
:)
PsYko420
12-11-01, 05:11 PM
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Grande Juan
12-11-01, 05:52 PM
Ah now I understand is a C/W of 45 good? It seems to be the best currently available for my piece of crap. In particularly the Swiftech MCX478. :beer:
Grande Juan
12-11-01, 05:56 PM
Am I wrong or is it the same as how quik a HS can exchange heat transfer to ambient temps.:confused:
ButcherUK
12-11-01, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Grande Juan
Ah now I understand is a C/W of 45 good? It seems to be the best currently available for my piece of crap. In particularly the Swiftech MCX478. :beer:
45 is very very bad (50W cpu, 45C/W would mean 2250C over ambient, the cpu in free air is around 8-10 C/W). If you meant 0.45 that's OK, nothing special but not bad for air cooling.
from a thread on Tekheads (http://www.tekheads.co.uk/forum/posts.php?threadId=3670) titled "C/W Confusion", I wrote:
suspect that my confusion stems in part from the C/W term
don't know the genesis of the term, but Joe Citarella of overclockers.com describes it thusly:
Delta = CPU temp - Ambient Temp
C/W = Delta / CPU Watts
Interpreting C/W: For every watt the CPU radiates, the heatsink will cool the core by the (C/W x watts) plus ambient temp. For example, at an ambient temp of 25 C, a C/W of 0.25 with a CPU radiating 50 watts means that the CPU temp will be 50 x 0.25 = 12.5 C over ambient temp, or 37.5 C. The lower the C/W, the better.
so speaking loosely, the C/W is a measure of a device's cooling effectiveness
so, looking at a wb:
should the C/W change as the flow rate changes ?
should the C/W change as the heat load changes ?
of course the C/W decreases with increased flow, and increases with an increased heat load
I'm coming to the conclusion that C/Ws serve only as a relative basis for comparison between IDENTICAL systems and conditions
which is to say that C/Ws are describing a device's interaction with the system's conditions, rather than any characteristic, per se, of the device itself
as grist for the mill,
there is a characteristic of a wb which does not seem to be dependant on the flow or heat load, the CPU/wb bp temperature differential
(of course this includes the thermal interface of the goop layer - but assuming this to be a constant...)
When the wb inlet temperature is held constant (+ or - 0.00^C, all the accuracy I can hold), the temperature difference between a TC embedded within the 10x10mm heat die, and a TC embedded within the wb over the die area; divided by the applied heat load - results in the same value (which is not sensitive to the flow rate).
any thoughts on this ?
have I totally missed the "point" of C/Ws ?
be cool
Grande Juan
12-11-01, 07:36 PM
Ok butcher that is 0.45 and air cooled sorry, but I'm looking for better than OK any suggestions. Also Billa does this mean how quik a HS can transfer heat?
well, the "problem" as I see it is that C/Ws are a relative comparison - NOT a measurement
what that means is that JoeC's numberes can only be compared to his test results on other units
NOT to C/Ws generated by other people with different setups and test methods
(and I think JoeC's are the most accurate)
be cool
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