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PUMP...need a small, quiet, durable
- Thread starter MrLarkins
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You're probably looking for a MCP35x type pump.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Pumps-c-56.html
or for more $$
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=135&cat=4&page=1
same thing.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Pumps-c-56.html
or for more $$
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=135&cat=4&page=1
same thing.
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Exactly my thoughts as well.WarriorII said:
Try the db-1's ... 2 of them are quieter than 1 DDC-2 You can't hear these until your ear is about 8 inches away and that's with NO other noise in the room.
I run 2 db-1's in series for my second loop. together they are less expensive than the ddc-2 ultra.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ddb12inpu.html
I run 2 db-1's in series for my second loop. together they are less expensive than the ddc-2 ultra.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/ddb12inpu.html
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The 355 is 120GPH, the others are less.
WarriorII said:
he's only cooling a CPU but...
one db-1 is 132 gph...2 (for the price of a ddc-2 ultra) is substantially more!
From Petra Tech:
Manufacturer's Specifications:
Input Voltage: 12V DC
Nominal Power Consumption: 6W
Max. Head Pressure: 2m (6.56 feet -- 2.8 PSIG)
Max. Discharge (Flow): 500 L/hr. (132 GPH)
Min. Starting Voltage: 8V DC
Max. Input Voltage: 13.2V DC
Bearing/Motor Type: Ceramic bearing, direct mag-drive
Noise: 20dB
MTBF: 50,000 hrs.
Operational Temp. Range: 0°C - 60°C
Connector Type: 3-Pin w/tach. output
Included Fittings: (2) D-Tek High-Flow G1/4 (1/4" BSPP) thread, 1/2" barbed fittings
Size: 2.3" x 1.8" x 2.4"
Petra'sTech Performance Testing Results:
Max. Head Pressure (at 12V DC): 2.5 PSIG (~5.77 feet -- ~1.76m)
Max. Discharge (at 12V DC): 1.91 US Gal./min. (114.6 GPH -- 433.8 L/hr.)
Max. Power Consumption (at 12V DC): 5.52W
Min. Power Consumption (at 12V DC): 3.84W
no a db-1 isn't quite as good as a ddc-2, but a ddc would be used in a loop cooling a cpu and 2 GPU's along with a 3 fan radiator.
He's just looking for a small cpu only loop with a 2 fan radiator. for $44 the db-1 is more than enough.
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will this
(http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP350-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2611.html)
work with my
(http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/blackiceproii.html)
and my
(http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=182) 1/2" fitting?
(http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP350-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2611.html)
work with my
(http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/blackiceproii.html)
and my
(http://www.dtekcustoms.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=182) 1/2" fitting?
Definitely yes. The Fuzion is an excellent block and is very non-restrictive. The MCP350/DDC is quiet, very reliable, and will fit the bill very well for you. If you want quiet with good performance, the DDC is the pump of choice.
In case anyone suggests it, you don't need the extra bit of noise or flow that the DDC-2 plus has, not to mention that the DDC-2 plus has seen far more reliability issues than the DDC.
In case anyone suggests it, you don't need the extra bit of noise or flow that the DDC-2 plus has, not to mention that the DDC-2 plus has seen far more reliability issues than the DDC.
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what if i wanted to add a GPU waterblock, would this pump still be a good choice?
and according to http://www.gruntville.com/reviews/wc/Swiftech_MCP_350_vs_PolarFLO_TT/page5.php
the MCP350 is 3/8ID systems only
i thought my parts were 1/2 so far...or am i getting this wrong.
and according to http://www.gruntville.com/reviews/wc/Swiftech_MCP_350_vs_PolarFLO_TT/page5.php
the MCP350 is 3/8ID systems only
i thought my parts were 1/2 so far...or am i getting this wrong.
The pump does have 3/8" fittings. But most people use it for 1/2" loops by either using adapters from 3/8" to 1/2", or they use an aftermarket top, the most popular being the one at http://www.petrastechshop.com/peddcudeddcp.html. The aftermarket top gives you the added advantage of about 75% increased flow over the stock top.
The easiest way to adapt from 3/8" to 1/2" is to just use a very short piece of 3/8"ID 1/16" walled tubing (1/2"OD) to slip over the 3/8" barbs, and then just slip the 1/2"ID tubing over the short piece of tubing and clamp it all down.
The easiest way to adapt from 3/8" to 1/2" is to just use a very short piece of 3/8"ID 1/16" walled tubing (1/2"OD) to slip over the 3/8" barbs, and then just slip the 1/2"ID tubing over the short piece of tubing and clamp it all down.
that's all it needs for the performance it gives. You can get an aftermarket top to gain the 1/2 barb, but in reality the channels the water flows through in the tops are still under 3/8's. Most of the production water cooling systems/kits out use 1/4 or 3/8 tubing so it would not be an issue.
Laing (pump manufacturer) does make tops for this pump with 1/2" fittings, but it is set apart apparently for industrial uses and can't be had for a decent price in the US. I already checked on this avenue.
Laing is in Germany, and Europe uses all 1/4"ID and some 3/8"ID fittings in their low flow watercooling loops. Here in the US, 3/8" to 1/2" higher flow loops are the norm.
If you add an aftermarket top, the inlet changes to 1/2"ID completely. The pump has a 1/4"ID outlet path in the stock top on purpose to maintain the high head pressure it has, so enlarging the outlet path would actually hurt the pump's performance as evidenced by the poor results obtained from the Raadical top. So whether you use an outlet 3/8" fitting or 1/2" fitting, it makes no difference to the pump's performance as long as the internal top outlet path size is not messed with. This pump benefits greatly in flow output by having the inlet larger and feeding in directly into the center of the pump without the 90 degree angle that the stock top inlet takes.
Laing is in Germany, and Europe uses all 1/4"ID and some 3/8"ID fittings in their low flow watercooling loops. Here in the US, 3/8" to 1/2" higher flow loops are the norm.
JeffnWV said:
If you add an aftermarket top, the inlet changes to 1/2"ID completely. The pump has a 1/4"ID outlet path in the stock top on purpose to maintain the high head pressure it has, so enlarging the outlet path would actually hurt the pump's performance as evidenced by the poor results obtained from the Raadical top. So whether you use an outlet 3/8" fitting or 1/2" fitting, it makes no difference to the pump's performance as long as the internal top outlet path size is not messed with. This pump benefits greatly in flow output by having the inlet larger and feeding in directly into the center of the pump without the 90 degree angle that the stock top inlet takes.
