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leojharris
05-22-07, 12:58 AM
Samsung MagicTune, anyone?

First off, let me just say that I love the Samsung 226BW; this is a rather exceptional statement coming from a very recent CRT convert, not to mention one from the visual design field:

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MagicTune: Released with 225BW but not 226BW?

Prior to being the proud and quite pleased owner of a Samsung 226BW LCD, I had tried it's predecessor, the 225BW; even though I took the 225BW back after a couple days, mostly due to reading some reviews of the 226 model, I still was upset to find that the 226BW LCD did not ship with Samsung's MagicTune software, as the 225BW did.

Maybe I got a bum package or something and everyone else's 226BW shipped with MagicTune, but, for whatever reason, my particular monitor did not.

Anyway, ...

Since I was totally impressed with the MagicTune calibration routine and since I hate using the OSD buttons on the monitor to make changes to my display, and since Magic Tune is freely available for download from Samsung's site, I decided to install it and try it with my 226BW anyway.

What I've found, after two months or so with this Samsung 226BW LCD is that the MagicTune software has become indispensable insofar as a daily tool, especially it's color calibration routine which allows you to save user profiles and load them automatically at startup; furthermore, if I ever need to fine tune the monitor's settings (brightness/contrast/gamma), I don't have to lean forward and actually use the monitors OSD buttons (I've in fact, *never* used the button interface on the monitor).

Anyway, on the chance that all 226BW's shipped without MagicTune, I thought I'd write a short post on my own experiences with it while also highly recommending it to anyone who hasn't installed it.


MagicTune Download

The main MagicTune download page, at Samsung's website is here: MagicTune Download (http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitors/magictune/magictune_05s.htm)

There's quite a few different versions of MagicTune available on the main download page, and it seems some are indicated to only be for certain Samsung monitors; since I'm using XP Home and since, technically, the 226BW is not listed as a supported monitor, I simply decided to go with the 'Premium' version which has no specific model or models associated with it:

MagicTune Premium for XP (direct download): XP Version (http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitors/magictune/images/MagicTunePremium_1.0.51.exe)


The Calibration Function

What I've found most invaluable, and especially since coming from a decade of using high end 21"+ trinitrons (visual design professional) has been the color calibration routine built into Magic Tune's "Color" tab.

Here's the screen in Magic Tune from which you launch the calibration routine:

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This feature alone made it possible for me to get rid of most of the main problem I was having with the step up from CRT's to LCD's: the much discussed tendency of colors to look 'washed out,' or otherwise, just not as saturated as one would find in a decent Trinitron CRT, especially greys; this phenomenon is most evident when viewing large areas of continuous tone colors such as those found in windows interface objects, etc.

The grays in Windows XP's default interface start bar, for instance, compared to a CRT and when using an LCD, just look a bit lighter and, well, 'washed out;' I think that's a good term for it.

I found that using the calibration routine that comes with Magic Tune greatly reduced this tendency in my own Samsung 226BW.

Unlike the interface suggests, and especially if your not familiar with other, very similar calibration routines, it's not really that simple of a process.

I did some notes on the main calibration page which might help explain how to go through the calibration process.

Click the smaller image below for details:


Calibration Test Screen Explained

The calibration test itself, unless you've used something like Adobe Photoshops color calibration routines, is not really that intuitive. Once you understand the concept, it's simple, but for any n00bs out there, I thought it might be good to have a visual breakdown:

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http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/calibration1_thmb.gif (http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/calibration1_main.gif)

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You'll have to view the linked test screen image at full resolution (1680x1050) for things to be rightly legible; but it should be clear enough.

Also, there's a help file accessible from that same test screen, in the upper right.

Repeat the indicated process for each of the 5 or so calibration test steps and be sure to save your profile when complete; later on, and as ambient light conditions change, you might try re calibrating and saving another profile as the LCD output can be perceived somewhat differently when going from a daylight lit room to one completely dark in the evening.

Anyway, as I've said before ... I found this feature to quite dramatically reduce the somewhat 'washed out' aspects of the typical consumer LCD versus the typical and decent CRT (Sony Trinitron etc.).

The fact that I even noticed this discrepancy between CRT's and LCD's is almost definitely due to the fact that I've worked with CRT's in a field that demands accurate color reproduction (screen-to-print, etc.) and so maybe the majority of you never noticed.

But for those of you, like me, who were initially bugged by the difference in saturation evident when using consumer LCD's ... the above explained calibration routine might just help you acclimate.

I know it did me.



Load MagicTune at Windows Start

As a final note regarding calibration and if you want your last saved profile to load at windows start, make sure you've selected "Enable Task Tray Menu" from the "Option" section of MagicTune's main interface.

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MagicTune: Other features

Otherwise, the other main benefit of using MagicTune is that I don't have to lean forward to make the expected and regular changes to my 226BW's brightness and contrast levels.

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Brightness/Contrast
Depending on my room ambient light and whether I'm watching a DVD or working on a text application ... or otherwise, I've found I need to adjust general brightness and contrast quite often.

When the MagicTune application is loaded in the system tray, I can simply open it and change the settings with sliders.

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_brightness.gif

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Following are those features which are available but for which I've never found any use for (MagicBright, etc.).

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Samsung MagicColor
I've never found any reason to use this; just seems a bit like fluff-ware to me:

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_magiccolor.gif

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Samsung MagicBright
Again, as with MagicColor, above, I've never touched this; again, seems like more fluff-ware:

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_magicbright.gif

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Sharpness Control
I played with this initially, but have found little use for it, other than the default settings because text and otherwise has always been displayed very nice and sharp. The difference in DVD's and otherwise is nominal at best:

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_sharpness.gif

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Tone Control
As with most monitors, you can adjust the 'tone' of the overall output; I lean towards warm, myself:

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_tone.gif

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Gamma Control
This is another available and somewhat nit-picky item which I've never used much. Mostly, I think, due to the main color calibration routine handling this for me.

http://resume.jbhfile.com/temp/magictune_gamma.gif

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The Point?

The main point is that for me personally, and even though (according to Samsung's site) MagicTune is not developed for the 226BW, it still has made a big difference in my personal appreciation of the 226BW LCD.

I mean specifically and most importantly the color calibration routine.

That said, I don't guarantee that you will have similar results using this software with your own 226BW, nor do I guarantee that it won't melt your screen or otherwise cause damage. So, use at your own risk.

But for me personally, and since I used the 225BW for a day or two and since that monitor shipped with a MagicTune CD ... I think it's safe to say that using MagicTune with the 226BW is most likely okay.

Otherwise ... and since I can't sleep ... I thought I'd pass on some of the love.

:thumb:

JackupCyrus
05-24-07, 02:35 AM
Great info! I'm so glad you posted this, I couldn't seem to adjust my 226bw with it's software. Now the white is actually white. And everything is more defined as well.

Thanks

leojharris
05-24-07, 09:23 AM
Great info! I'm so glad you posted this, I couldn't seem to adjust my 226bw with it's software. Now the white is actually white. And everything is more defined as well.

Thanks

Yeah ... the calibration routine really helps in the white/black category ...

:beer:

Alexhk
05-24-07, 02:22 PM
Very nice post with nice timing as I was thinking about getting this monitor.

Thank you.

nd4spdbh2
05-24-07, 05:11 PM
does it just work for samsung monitors?

redrumy3
05-24-07, 05:39 PM
this monitor is nice love mine hope u get the s panel since i think those are the best ones, thank god i got one, im going to try this now and see how it works

nd4spdbh2
05-24-07, 05:49 PM
this monitor is nice love mine hope u get the s panel since i think those are the best ones, thank god i got one, im going to try this now and see how it works


s pannels? as in S-PVA? dont they all come with S-PVA pannels?

redrumy3
05-24-07, 05:51 PM
s pannels? as in S-PVA? dont they all come with S-PVA pannels?

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/ce/Official-comparison-Samsung-226BW-panel-panel-ftopict52809.html

nd4spdbh2
05-24-07, 05:54 PM
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/ce/Official-comparison-Samsung-226BW-panel-panel-ftopict52809.html


Ahh so its like a revision... gotcha

redrumy3
05-24-07, 06:00 PM
Ahh so its like a revision... gotcha

yep im glad i got my s panel :D

leojharris
05-31-07, 08:11 AM
does it just work for samsung monitors?

After doing a bit of research ... I think it might be worth your while to download the software and try it with your monitor.

Apparently, the MagicTune software is made independently of Samsung and the retail version works with some other brands of LCD.

Check the download spots listed in my OP and try it out ...

Krome
05-31-07, 09:12 AM
Gonna try this w/ my 215tw. Thanks!

Viol8ted
06-03-07, 10:18 PM
I had some serious issues with this piece of software. One file called mtictwl.sys caused havoc. Everytime the pc would load and make it to desktop I would blue screen with a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA stop 0x50 error. After removing MagicTune Premuim presto blue screens gone. Just thought I would post in case someone else errors out on this poor software.

leojharris
06-03-07, 10:43 PM
I had some serious issues with this piece of software. One file called mtictwl.sys caused havoc. Everytime the pc would load and make it to desktop I would blue screen with a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA stop 0x50 error. After removing MagicTune Premuim presto blue screens gone. Just thought I would post in case someone else errors out on this poor software.

Thanks for the heads up.

No problems here, though ... I couldn't live with out it, really.

And, as a lesson in relativity ... the software has worked flawlessly every day for me ... for over four months now ... and so ... "poor software' might be a bit relative of a statement ...

As in ... relative to your particular experience ...

:)

Have you searched around to see if any other users on the net have reported similar errors?

Viol8ted
06-03-07, 11:05 PM
Yes I have seen another post on another forum with the exact same problem. I might have been a little hasty calling it "poor" ;)

chrispycrunch
07-04-07, 10:32 PM
Thanks! Good advice on the settings. I tried the advanced color and the colors are really bleached out. It's kind of nice for movies, though. Hues are a bit exaggerated but it is nice.

I had to re-install XP before it would finally work properly (it must have conflicted with an ATI driver update.

That said, I switched users (on the same desktop). When I got back to the original user, magictune gave an error and said the desktop does not support magictune. Does anyone else have this problem?

On the website you can get natural color expert.
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Monitors/nce/nce_04.htm

leojharris
07-04-07, 11:02 PM
That said, I switched users (on the same desktop). When I got back to the original user, magictune gave an error and said the desktop does not support magictune. Does anyone else have this problem?


One in twenty boots will see a message saying "magictune is not compatible with your system."

Then I just reboot and things are fine ...

Happens very very rarely ..

chrispycrunch
07-09-07, 08:27 PM
i could not get magic tune premium to load any more. It worked for a while (this is after a re-format too) but now it does not work.

Downgraded to v.3.6 and got the magictune is not compatible with your system message.

Does anyone consistently get this error message?

leojharris
07-09-07, 09:49 PM
i could not get magic tune premium to load any more. It worked for a while (this is after a re-format too) but now it does not work.

Downgraded to v.3.6 and got the magictune is not compatible with your system message.

Does anyone consistently get this error message?

I don't get it consistently ... only very so often.

It seems to be tied to my start up programs boot/start order but I can't be sure ...

Try using msconfig.exe to disable whatever startup programs you don't need and then see if that affects anything ...

Good luck ...

BTW ... the company who makes magictune also makes a commercial LCD calibration suite which you might want to look up.